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Qoyska Gen. Max’ed Cali Samatar oo Taageero Doon Ku Yimid Minnesota

By: Abdirahman Ceynte

 

 

Minneapolis , MN – HOL. Shir kooban oo eey soo qaban qaabiyeen Somali Justice Advocacy Center iyo shaqsiyaad kale, laguna taageerayey qoyska Jen. Max’ed Cali Samatar ayaa maalintii Sabtida ee December 25-ka aheyd lagu qabtay qol yar oo ku yaalla Hoteelka Holiday Inn ee agagaarka xaafadda Somalidu ku badan tahay ee Cedar ee magaalada Minneapolis. Kulankan ayaa lagu tafatiray dacwo ka dhan ah Jen. Max’ed Cali Samatar iyo Yusuf Cabdi Cali (Tuke) oo labadooduba saraakiil sar sare ka ahaa xukuumadii Max’ed Siyad Barre. Dacwadan, oo nuxurkeedu yahay xadgudubyo ka dhan ah xuquuqda aadanaha oo eey sheeganayaan mudaciin Soomaaliyeed ayaa ka furantay gobolka Virginia oo ah halka eey labada sarkaal-ba deggan yihiin. Wada tashi dheer kadibna, waxaa la isku af-gartay in la sameeyo guddiyo isku xira taageerada Jen. Max’ed Cali Samatar, siina amba qaada.

 

Jen.Max’ed Cali Samatar waa sarkaalkii ugu sareeyey ee Ciidankii Qalabka siday darajo wahaan. Talis ahaana, wuxuu ahaa qofka labaad ee Madaxweynaha ku xigay. Ra’iisul Wasaare iyo Madaxweyne ku xigeene wuu soo noqday. Waxaa kaloo la sheegaa inuu la taliye soke u ahaa Madaxweynaha.

 

Dacwad Madani ah ayaa lagu soo oogay Mr. Samatar November 10, 2004. Mudacayada dacwadan oo lix qofood ah ayaa hal qof oo kaliya ka magacaaban yahay. Waana nin la yiraahdo Baashe Cabdi Yusuf oo sida dacwada ku qoran ku nool Atlanta, Goeriga oo Mareykanka ah iyo affar Somalia ku nool, halka uu mid kamid ahna dalka Kuwait ku nool yahay. Mr. Baashe ayaa sheegtay in isagoo la shaqeynaya hey’ad UFFO la yiraahdo, oo wax ka qabata horumarinta iskuullada iyo istibitaalada, la xiray, laguna tuhmay “Khiyaamo Qaranâ€. Taas oo dil xukunkeedu ahaa. Toddoba sano ayuu ku soo liqay xabsi Muqdisho u dhow, halkaasna lagu jirdili jiray, sida uu ku sheegtay.

 

Mudaca ku nool Kuwait oo aan magiciisa dacwada ku qorneyn ayaa sheegay in isagoo arday jaamacadeed ah 1989 la qabtay, markii “ragga Isaaqa ah ee Muqdisho deggan†la hareereynayey, waa sida dacwada ku dhigane. Wuxuu sheegay in xeebtii Jaziira la geeyey isago iyo tobanaan kale, deedna iyadoo shan shan la isu tooganayo uu isagu dhaawac fudud soo gaaray, ha yeeshee uu meyd iska dhigay. Kadibna carrada lagu duugay. Halkaas oo uu iska soo faagay markii askartu baxeen, kadibna baxsaday.

 

 

Yusuf Cabdi Cali (Tuke), eedeysanaha labaad, oo aad moodo inuusan taageero midda Mr. Samatar helay u dhiganta uusan helin, ayaa horey looga masaafuriyey wadanka Canada bishii October ee 1992, kadib markii eey dowladda Canada ku heshay “waxashnimo xag jirtaâ€, waa sida dacwadiisa ku qorane. 1993 ayuu Mareykan yimid, halkaas oo uu daganaansho joogto ah dalbaday, isagoo ku dhaartay inuusan wax danbi ah galin, markii uu arjiga buuxinayey. Laakiin 1994-tii ayeey Waaxda Socdaalku ku amartay inuu Mareykanka isaga huleelo, ka gadaal markii “uu is daba marsiiyey xogta arjigiisa deganaanshaha†Kadib, si iskiis ah ayuu Kenya isugu masaafuriyey. Misana 1996 ayuu soo rogaal celiyey, laakiin markan xaaskiisa oo dhalasho Mareykan ah heysata ayuu ku soo biiray. Laakiin Waaxda Socdaalkuna 1998 ayeey ku soo rogaal celiyeen oo xireen, iyagoo ku eedeeyey inuu “is daba marsiiyey arjigiisii 1993-daâ€. Hase yeeshee, qaalli ayaa markii danbe xukmiyey in arjigii Tuke ee 1993 uusan aheyn “mid hadda jiraâ€, isla markaana uu Tuke ka tanaasulay arjigaas. Sidaas ayuuna Tuke tan iyo waagaas isagoo xor ah ku joogaa Virginia.

 

Maxaa Mareykan Keenay Dacwad Soomaaliyeed?

 

Khabiir ku takhasusay sharciyada oo aan ka wareystay sida Dacwad Madani ah qof Mareykan jooga loogu soo oogi karo, isagoo lagu heysto danbiyo uu meel kale ku galay ayaa ii sheegay in hadii dowladda Mareykanku saxiixdo heshiis caalami ah, sida midkii Geneva oo kale, Aqalka Odayaasha iyo Madaxweynuhuna ansixiyaan, uu sharcigaas iyo ciqaabihiisaba ka dhaqan galayo cariga Mareykanka. Isagoo kamid noqonaya “Law of the Land†ama qaanuunka dalka. Deedna cidii danbiyadaas xitaa wadan kale ku soo gashay lagu soo oogi karo.

 

Afhayeenkii qoyska Mr. Samatar, Dr. Cali Axmed Nur oo ka soo socdaalay dalka Canada, eeyna la socdeen Zahra iyo Yusuf oo kamid ah caruurta Mr. Samatar ayaa hadalladiisii waxaa kamid ahaa : “ Walaalayaal: Sida aad la socotaan bishii November 11, 2004 ayaa waxaa dacwad madani ah lagu soo oogey mudane Maxamed Cali Samatar, dacwadaas oo aan ahayn mid xaq ah, oo raadkeedu yahay caddaalad darro ee ah mid looga dan leeyahay in odayga Maxamed Cali Samatar ah sumcaddiisa iyo karaamadiisa lagu dilo, loogana xayuubsado hanti wax alla iyo wixii gacantiisa ku jirta.

 

Walaalayaal: Anaga ma idin lihin dembiile daafaca, mana idin lihin maamulkii dalka ka jirey iyo kuwii sannadihii ka dambeeyeyba wax ay dembi oo galeen ma jirto. Hase yeeshee ma qabno in ay tahay xaq in mas'uuliyiintii dalka Soomaaliyeed maamuleysey oday Samatar oo keliya laga soocdo, loona muujiyo dembiilaha keliya ee geystey dhammaan tacadigii dhammaan ka dhacay dalka Soomaaliya.â€

 

Wuxuu kaloo Dr. Cali sheegay in ololahan eey ka sii wadi doonaan gobollo kale, sida Ohio, Seattle, California iyo xitaa London, U.K.

 

Wanla-Weyn Necbi?

 

Mid kamid ah dadkii halkaas isna hadallada taageerada ah ka soo jeediyey, Dr. Hussien ayaa tibaaxay inuu aad uga xumaaday falka loo geeystey Max’ed Cali Samatar. Wuxuuna raacsiiyey in dacwaddani eey “Qabyaalad†salka ku heyso, isla markaana “eey Wanla-weyn necbi tahayâ€.

 

Oday Soomaaliyeed ayaa isna ku daray in dhacdadan eey tahay “heyb raadsiâ€, isla markaana eey sii ballaaraneyso hadii aan wax laga qaban.

 

Laakiin Afhayeenka reer Max’ed Cali Samatar, Dr. Cali ayaa diiday in eey jiraan beel ama beelo Soomaaliyeed oo isku wada raacsan dacwadda Mr. Samtar, mar uu ka jawaabayey su’aal aheyd “ ma jiraan gobollo ama beelo habeysan oo abbaaraya Max’ed Cali Samatar?â€

 

Zahra Max’d Cali Samatar ayaa iyana si qiiro leh u muujisay sida eey ugu faraxsan tahay “taageerada loo muujiyey†aabaheed. Waxeeyna sheegtay ineey iyadoo hurdaba ladi la’a eey la soo xiriirtay Cumar Jamal, Madaxa Somali Justice Advocacy Center oo ah xarun aalaaba u doodda xuquuqda Somalida ee Mareykanka, gaar ahaan Minnesota. Kadibna uu Cumar Jamal walwalkeedii in badan ka yareeyey.

 

Dhismo Guddiyo.

 

Gunaanadkii kulanka ayaa dhidibada loo aasay saddex guddi oo kala ah: Guddiga hagista, guddiga dhaqaale uruurinta iyo guddiga warbaahinta. Guddiga hagista oo qeybta libaax ka qaadan doona isku xirka taageerada Max’ed Cali Samatar ayaa waxaa lagu daray qaar kamid ah odayaasha Magaalada iyo Cumar Jamal. Halka guddiga dhaqaale uruurinta eey kamid tahay Faadumo Hiirad oo aheyd wariye qaran iyo dhowr qofood oo kale.

 

Xarunta dacwadan gacanta ku heysa Center for Justice & Accountability ayaa caan ku ah daba gal eey ku sameeyso saraakiisha reer Latin America ee geystay danbiyada Xuquuqda Aadanaha ka dhanka ah. Barta eey xaruntu ku leedahay Internet-ka ayaad ku arkeysaa tiro fara badan oo saraakiil Latin America u dhashay oo Mareykanka laga masaafuriyey. Kiiska Max’ed Cali Samatar & Yusuf Tuke-na meesha ugu hooseysa ayuu ku qoran yahay.

 

Taleefonadii aan u diray iyo fariimihii aan u dhaafay toona iguma soo celin xaruntu wali, lagana yaabee ineey salka ku heyso xilliga fasaxyada ee lagu jiro Mareykanka.

 

Ma ahan markii ugu horreeysay oo saraakiil ka tirsan dowladii Siyad Barre lala beegsado dacwooyin noocan oo kale ah. Bishii July 15-keedii ee sanadkan 2004 ayeey Wasaaradda Ammaanka Qaranka Mareykank, gaar ahaan Waaxda Socdaalku masaafurisay Qaalli Soomaaliyeed oo la yiraahdo Cabdi Cali Nur Max’ed oo loo yaqaanno “Qaalli Nuurâ€. Isagoo lagu soo oogay inuu amar ku bixiyey in la xasuuqo dad rayid ah, qabiilkooda iyo fikirdooda dartiis, meel u dhow magaalada Hargeysa ee Somalia.

 

Sidee loo arkaa dhacdooyinkan?

 

Fikrado kale duwan oo iska soo horjeeda baa jira. Qaar baa u arka in dacwooyinkani eey u xuubsiibteen nidaam qabyaaladeed. Isla markaasna uu hurin karo colaadda dhex taalla beelaha Soomaalida, gaar ahaan Puntland iyo Somaliland. Halka qaar kalena u arkaan ineey tahay caddaaladii oo caga yeelatay. Waxeeyna ku doodayaan in nidaamkii Siyad Barre uu si ula kac ah u sifeeyey beelo kamid ah Somalida, isla markaana eey haboon tahay in saraakiisha ka jooga nidaamkii Siyad Barre la dabo galo, meel walba oo eey joogaan, gaar ahaan wadamada Galbeedka ee u dhaga nugul xadgudubyada xuquuqda aadanaha.

 

Sheegid waxaa mudan in is qabqabsiyada ka dhax aloosma Soomaalidu eey badanaaba midabyo kale yeeshaan durbadiiba, gaar ahaan kan qabyaaladda.

 

C/raman Ceynte

Hiiraan Online

Minneapolis , MN

[Gabbal]

What happened already happened. Nobody can change it, but it is sad to go after a sickly old man oo cimrigiisa damaystay.

 

Why won't they leave the old man alone?

[Nationalist]

Gen Muhammad Ali Samatar wasn't alone in this. We're talking about thousands of people who were involved in human rights abuses during the military regime. To select him of all people is sickening. These people are vultures, especially when they stated that at all costs they have to end up with Samatar's money. All of it.

 

Let's not talk about the human rights abuses during the civil war wich were megalomanic compared to the military regime. Bottom line, forget the past, forgive the wrongdoer (Ilahey baa la xisaabtam doonaa) and move on! People are living in the past too much and even worse think they are the only Somalis that were opressed.

[Qudhac]

Horn

 

yes what has happened has happened.....

 

 

 

TUKE BURNING YOUNG BOY ALIVE

[Suldaanka]

Why

won't they leave the old man alone?

Wadhaf iyo shimbiro kala warla!!

 

Of all things, he asks "why"?? The death and cold murder of more then 50,000 innocent civilians is why.

 

It hurts me to the guts, that this is not a criminal court. How f*king weird does this world work?

 

Is justice too much to ask?

[wind.talker]

^^

 

SXBow, neither Col. Tukeh nor Cali Samatar killed 50,000 people. Tii Alle baa ragaan u hartay. You can try them in court but you'll ultimately fail. There's no human rights court set up for Somalia - for if one is opened, I believe Riyaale the Runner, Siilaanyo, Qaybe etc will all be included as de facto members of the former Somali government. Cali Samatar was merely a MEMBER of the Somali government - much as the aforementioned people who are now MEMBERS of the Somaliland regime.

 

Either charge em all or let the old man die in peace.

[Gediid]

^^^^^Shows how when one covers his eyes with his hands,he will never go far.

 

Horn

Are you afraid someone dear to you might pop up in the second list?

 

Nationalist

I definately think you carry a name beyond your comprehension.Suitable name changes I think you should consider are

Cuqdadle

Qabiil yurura

Senor Repetitious

 

To the rest

I just hope that this case isn't the first nor the last.We need to hold people like Samater and their likes accountable for their crimes.By persucating them victims who suffered will get relief and future leaders will now know they will be held accountable for actions no matter where they run off to.

[Gediid]

Sorry dp

[Gabbal]

Horn

Are you afraid someone dear to you might pop up in the second list?

Sxb dawladii Siyad Barre cidkastaa ku jirtay. Adi un ha layaabin hadaad adeeradaa mid ku aragtid. :cool:

[Gediid]

^^^^^^If thats the case then I say bring them all to justice including my uncles and YOURS...

[Gabbal]

^^^I'm with you all the way pal, but since Maxamed Cali Samantar is NOT one of uncles, I would call for a pardon on his behalf.

[Gediid]

^^^WHY?

[Gabbal]

First Gediid, I am well aware of what transpired in the north and I do believe all of Somalia owes an apology (knowing how meaningless it is now) to the north, but Mohamed Cali Samantar is an old and sick man and suing him for what little pensions he has right now won't be good for anyone. TWO WRONGS DO NOT MAKE RIGHT SXB. The best remedy for Somalis at the moment is to forgive and forget, simply forgive and forget.

 

The first Somali tragedy occured in Mudug and the northeast, yet, no pun intended, you do not see them suing anyone or dwellin in the past.

 

The second tragedy occured in the north against a clan, I admit, and I would hope they forgive and forget also.

 

The third tragedy, and a severe one I might add, occured in Somalia as a whole and primarily against one clan. I have yet to see anyone from this era still dwelling in that tragedy, and can say they moved on the most.

 

I'm assuming that if my experiences were laid side by side with yours, I would have suffered and seen more tragic things then you would have.

 

There is this one picture that Qudhac showed about a non-relative boy/girl being burned, yet some of MY relatives were nailed to boards, had gas sprayed on them, and burned alive in Baidoa by reer Bay and Bakool. They escaped Muqdisho before us, and we couldn't even stop for them in Baidoa on our journey to Gedo, because Gen. Caydiid and his right-hand Shabeele were chasing us from behind, the reer Bay and Bakool were chasing us from northwestern side, and Col Jess from the southeastern side.

 

I'm not trying make you feel sorry for or something, but EVERYBODY suffered sxb and the best course for us to forgive and forget and move on.

[Kowneyn]

Originally posted by HornAfrique:

I'm assuming that if my experiences were laid side by side with yours, I would have suffered and seen more tragic things then you would have.

 

There is this one picture that Qudhac showed about a non-relative boy/girl being burned, yet some of MY relatives were nailed to boards, had gas sprayed on them, and burned alive in Baidoa by reer Bay and Bakool. They escaped Muqdisho before us, and we couldn't even stop for them in Baidoa on our journey to Gedo, because Gen. Caydiid and his right-hand Shabeele were chasing us from behind, the reer Bay and Bakool were chasing us from northwestern side, and Col Jess from the southeastern side.

 

I'm not trying make you feel sorry for or something, but EVERYBODY suffered sxb and the best course for us to forgive and forget and move on.

Horn, You never cease to amaze me.

 

The American human rights organization that has brought this case against these criminals did their homework and are experienced in this area, they are dedicated and have worked tirelessly to make certain that THEIR COUNTRY does not become a save haven for war criminals.

 

Samatar was one of the most senior conspirators and decision makers in the fascist regimes genocidal campaign in Somaliland.

 

Somaliland itself is OBLIGED and must some day hunt down the war criminals and bring them to justices, so I suggest u save your crocodile tears and wild analogies and your premature lectures on forgiveness until then.

 

Kowneyn

[Ace of Spadez]

Originally posted by HornAfrique:

...TWO WRONGS DO NOT MAKE RIGHT...

 

 

...against a clan, ...

 

... and primarily against one clan...

 

I'm assuming that if my experiences were laid side by side with yours, I would have suffered and seen more tragic things then you would have.

 

1. I don't see where the wrong is by going after individuals. You do the crime you do the time. If that is not possible you pay the price.

 

2. Now I know why you're obsessed with clan, it’s because your whole outlook is based on clan.

 

3. Horn don't let Odweyne get to you, you deserve sympathy too. You're a human being too! I don't get why all Somalis take a dump on you. You've suffered so much, why can't people see the light.

 

Happy New Year people!