SOCIALISM OVER DEMOCRACY.

[IL CAPO]

You will be forgiven to believe this world that we find ourselves in today is indeed the play ground of the so-called powerful nations as they put in power or over throw any government that fails to suck up to them and wouldn't you know it is done all in the name of Democracy and Freedom.

 

As far as I am concerned Democracy is the biggest evil there is as it is designed to boost the ego and satisfy the conscience of insecure men who think by murdering innocent children and women will make them heroes.

 

Democracy is like money, the route of all evils and every second there is a crime committed all in the name of Democracy and I refuse to be part of any political party that represents Evil individuals who never cared about how many lives it took and how many Millions gone to waste as long as they got what they wanted.

 

It makes you wonder how come most of the greatest leaders the world has ever known were Socialists?

 

Can you compare Bush to Castro or Blair to Mao Tse-Tung?

 

That is why I will always choose Socialism over Democracy.

[Cawralo]

Are you confused?

 

You must be confused.

 

Socialism,marxism,communism or whatever it's called, has been one of the most dangerous ideologies of the last century. Hundreds of thousands if not millions have lost their lives under the watchword 'religion is the opiate of the people'. (My dad will kill me for saying this..) It's a totalitarian ideology. Tankis, but no tankis.

[IL CAPO]

Originally posted by Cawralo:

Are you confused?

 

You must be confused.

Easy now my Sister..no need for that and yes i know i am mentally challenged but that wasn't the issue here, was it?

 

anyway..no Political party in this world is perfect as they are all murderers,rapists so on and so forth but the main point here is, apart from Russia's invasion in Afghanistan there is no Socialist regime which caused a war or over thrown

another regime all in the name of Socialism and for the sake of their own interests and if Socialists were Cowboys like our cousins in the west i believe China would have invaded Taiwan a long time ago by now.

 

if you are referring to Mao's so-called

"Political Genocide" in China when he and his comarades were in power then i honestly believe that you only heard from Western side of the story and their propaganda as that is far from the truth,however Mao had his agendas and as it turned out to be it was good for every Chinese people particularly about his legislations concerning how the land should be shared amongst the people of China.

I Leave You In Peace.

[Sincere]

Socialist regime which caused a war or over thrown

another regime all in the name of Socialism and for the sake of their own interests

I guess China’s aggressive invasion and illegal annexation of tibet, is a media propagated hoax as well.

It makes you wonder how come most of the greatest leaders the world has ever known were Socialists?

Maos rise from peasant to revolutionary to chairman of what some may consider the most powerful political party is inspiring. Attaining that feet alone is what makes him great, not because he was a socialist

 

Lets look at this from another angle other than genocide (majority of which occurred during Chiang kai shek reign, Mao's predecessor) Mao was notorious for silencing dissenters who criticized the communist party policy’s, and censored speech.Can you refute the fact that he objected to freedom of speech, especially when it came to criticizing the party? I wonder if Bush would sentence me to hard time in a maximum prison if I went on the howard stern or rush Limbaugh’s radio show and said *obscene* the republican party?

 

Read Mao’s book of quotations “The Little Red Book†and you will get a whiff of the cult like indoctrination he spewed.

[-Serenity-]

You have to separate Socialism as an ideology from the practice. Comparing the two - Socialism and Capitalism a.k.a Democracy., I'd prefer Socialism as a solution to the growing economic disparity between the rich and poor.

* prolly ‘cause I’m not rich at the moment and I hate the fact that Bill Gates himself alone can be considered the 57th richest country in the world *

Socialism in a nutshell means that the means of production and distribution are owned by the workers rather than a minority who scoop all the profit. Socialism is genuine free enterprise. All I see in today’s world is the bridge between the poor and the rich widening. All the world’s resources are being utilized by 10% of the world population. Is this fair? NO. Do we have a better solution? Maybe, but I’ve yet to hear of it.

[Sincere]

7/9 your right about separating the ideology of socialism, and the practice, but it does not serve it justice when Mao is exemplified as the quintessential socialist leader. He failed, and was even chastised by others for tainting the doctrine

 

Socialism denies private ownership, and puts it in the hands of government.It is an admirable ideology to the naked eye, for it tends to emit a robin hood like aura. Take from the rich and give to the poor, equality for all. Unfortunatly this has yet to be the case. Corruption at the higher echelons has lined the pockets of individuals and contradicted the whole theory of equality for all.

 

Would you rather see an individual get rich through innovative imagination, or a general whose wealth comes from laundered money he funneled to off shore acounts, whilst preaching "Equality for all" ..

[-Serenity-]

Unfortunatly this has yet to be the case. Corruption at the higher echelons has lined the pockets of individuals and contradicted the whole theory of equality for all.

Like I said, as an idealogy, its almost the best economic solution. Although I do think it lacks incentive. Not alot of people would go out of their way to be innovative and be progressive without some kinda incentive. With regards to the practice of Socialism in the past, its pretty much like Islam - used and abused. These are pretty perfect systems when followed all the way through and disastrous vice versa.

*mind you, im not putting Islam and Socialism on the same pedestal*

 

Would you rather see an individual get rich through innovative imagination, or a general whose wealth comes from laundered money he funneled to off shore acounts, whilst preaching "Equality for all" ..

I'm particularly suspicious of all exceptionally rich people. They must have laundered that money out of some poor workers who deserved better.

[Yeniceri]

Whoever posted this needs to clarify what 'socialism' & 'democracy' mean. Whoever said socialism, communism & marxims HAVE caused the death of millions is partially correct. But, I suppose democracy has SAVED millions? Say, in Iraq, or Afghanistan, where perfectly 'democratic' governments exist. I mean those government are so democratic that they're no longer part of the Axis of Evil. Hail to Democracy & Bush-ism.

 

And neither Bush nor Blair can be compared to Mao Zedong (Tse-sung), the People's Republic of China's founding father. He's the national founding father to over a billion people. Bush & Blair are serving mere terms. Their nations, the U.K. & the U.S., are based on a long tradition of governance, and therefore don't need to be 'found.' Capishe?

[Axmed Mohamed]

socilism it is a political ideology that some how seems to help evryone who lives under it but

 

When it works in states and republics like france or england or even spain now.

 

They seem to be adding another name after socilism

 

and that name is democratic

 

you know why

 

that is because while the idea of socialism is good and even better than democracy

 

its values are dangerous and and can cause nations like the united states to tear apart in less than three decades.

 

socialist democrat is a person whose both values and ideas are devoted towards helping the society,and the community.

 

And the results of socialist democarats show up in states like france and england even ireland

and other european states.

 

Socilism alone cant stand up to the complete values of a deomocratic society but once you add them up you could get a nation that both cares about the society and the individual communities not individuals alone but their comminities.

 

And that is ther idea here you cant care about the individuals alone in society but you could care about individual communities that then can care for the individuals themselves

[Truth Seeker]

I think Islam is missing from this debate. Especially since we are talking about Ideologies.

 

Lets look at the successes of these ideologies when they were implemented.

 

- Islam gave the world the greatest civilisation

- Capitalism gave the world colonialism and exploitation, servitude.

- Socialism proved to be a failiure and denied the existence of the Creator.