Emperor Posted May 14, 2009 Muqdisho:"Dagaalka waa joojineynaa hadii uu iska casilo shariifka madaxweynaha uu sheeganayo" Hogaamiyaha xisbul islaam 14. maj 2009 Muqdisho(AllPuntland )-Dr:Cumar Iimaan Abubakar gudoomiyaha ururka Xisbul islaam ayaa sheegay in dhinacooda ay dagaalada joojinayaan hadii uu xilka madaxweynanimo iska casilo madaxweyne Shariif Shiikh Axmed. Cumar Iimaan oo ka qeybgalayey barnaamijka “Ma waraa’al Khabar” ee ka baxa TV-ga Al-Jazeera ayaa sheegay in dagaalada ay hakan karaan hadii uu shariif ka tanaasulo madaxweynaninamada u sheeganayo. Waxa uu sheegay in iyaga ay dagaalka kula jiraan dawlada oo uu sheegay in ay tahay mid ka been sheegtay shareecada islaamka balse aanay la dagaalameynin Sharifka shaqsiyadiisa. “shariif hadii aan isaga si gaar ah ula dirireyno waa la arkaa ee haka tago bal xilka loo soo dhoodhoobay ee Mareykanka iyo reer galbedka sameeyeen” ayu yiri Cumar Iiman. Cumar Iiman ayaa hadalkisa waxaa laga dhadhansanaa in ay daneynayaan in ay qabtaan talada dalka oo ay dhisaan dawlad Islaami ah sida uu sheegayo. Xafiiska wararka Muqdisho AllPuntland Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abtigiis Posted May 14, 2009 Reer galbeed iyo Maraykanka ayaa Somaliya u dhaama Cumar Iiman iyo these bunch of medievial clerics. Muritaaniyuu fiqi'ga iyo wax yar oo lagu daray ku soo bartay and he has the gut to call himslef DR. Cumar. War waxan waa in madaxa laga toogto oo la iska celiyaa. The finger to Xisbul Islam and all the phantom things they say they fight for. With this declaration, it is clear they are after power. Not that it wasn't clear before, but they make it ever clearer today. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kashafa Posted May 14, 2009 ^ He has a doctorate in Aqeedah from the Harvard of Islamic higher education, Madeenah University. But being a highly educated, newly-ilbax, pencil-pushing bureaucrat working out of a cubicle, you wouldn't care about medieval studies that are useless in a modern world, would you now ? Come to grips with it: It's only a matter of weeks/months before Sharif Ahmed is sent to the refugee camps of Yemen to join his predecessor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meiji Posted May 14, 2009 As we all knew: the conflict is about political power and who becomes the leader. Sh.Shariif who is supported by foreign actors is no different than Alshabab who is supported by foreign Jihadi actors (Alqaida and co) or Xisbi Islam who is supported by Eritrea. While Sh.Shariif supports the presence of AMISOM troops who massacre civilians by their gruesome bombardements, Alshabab supports the presence of foreign Jihadi fighters from Pakistan/Afganistan/ Middle East etc who plant road-side bombs, mines, and fire mortars from heavily populated area's. What we have are two ''Islamic'' camps who both fought together to bring down the warlords, and are now fighting for the spoils of war: political power. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abtigiis Posted May 14, 2009 Kashafa, your zeal and determination is commendable. But add a little bit of logic, commen sense and realism to it. Somalia and the Muqaawama can't fight all the powers that influence how things go on in this world. If the west agreed to settle for a quasi-islamic government in Somalia in the form of Sheikh Sharif's, I think we need to see the options available and take it. If, on the otherhand, you opt for the likes of Alshabab, you are encouraging an endless cycle of bloodshed, displacement and deprivation. Please see the living conditions of the ordinary somali people. I have a comfortable life where I am and my kids are going to good schools. Why would I have to deny the same for the poor somali's back home? Everyone longs for that. You too have a decent life in the land of the Imperialists. Why would you like to perpetuate fire that doesn't engulf you? When Ethiopia was occupying our country it was clear why we should focus on bringing back our integrity and pride, not to mention our country. For what should we continue fighting for now? The west will have an influence in the Somali politics as long as we remain poor people who need their economic help. It was one thing to be proud and independent-minded, it is quite another to be a mascho and a mindless zealot. If the Muqaawama wins today there is no guarantee that it is the end of the misery for the people of Somalia. Already Alshaba and Xisbul islam are warming up for the next showdown. I think you need to genuinely look at the bigger context and the realities around and come to terms with "the second best" option avaibale which is to take the Sharif government as the starting point. You can argue for it to be cleansed, for the size of the parliamnet to be cut back, for war lords in it to be prosecuted. But that all will happen once the government is on a firm footing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny B Posted May 14, 2009 Kamakace limited has nailed it right on the head. This outcry for truce from the terrorists will fall in the deaf ears of the innocent and displaced people of Mogadishu. Atheer Hassan Dahir should not surround himself with 'shabab' foreign terrorists trying to subjugate his brethen. Just as he chose not to deal with A yususf and prevent ethiopian invation of Somalia, He chose his sortè of the Somali-political arena the wrong time. Attempting to overthrow Somalia and Mogadishu's favorite president Sheikh Sharif by a borrowed force was a deadly miscalculation. but then again Both Kashafa and atheer aweys share the charecter -flow of beeing self-righteous. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaylbaro Posted May 14, 2009 AY Ha is casilo Ethiopia ha baxdo AMISOM ha baxdo Sharif Ha is casilo Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh the list is endless ....... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny B Posted May 14, 2009 ^Once again, the jungles of 'Raskambni' are waiting !! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted May 14, 2009 Sharif Ahmed the saint should resign to save the people. Doubt it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Resistance Posted May 14, 2009 could it be that DR Ilamaan was misquates here. I think hr is basically saying that they are fighting the doctrine and system of this govemernment and not Shariif as an indivual , hence he is saying that even if he resigns the fight will continue against this government. Notice how the article deliberetly mis-quated him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted May 14, 2009 Dagaalkani mid hadal ku joogsanayya maaha! Sharifku ciidan badan ma haysto,laakiin wuu mintidi; Mintid farayar mirihii battaa kama macaashaane;e Mar hadday mashiinadu qarxaan mawtka loo simane'e Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recovering-Romantics Posted May 14, 2009 Originally posted by Resistance: could it be that DR Ilamaan was misquates here. I think hr is basically saying that they are fighting the doctrine and system of this govemernment and not Shariif as an indivual , hence he is saying that even if he resigns the fight will continue against this government. Notice how the article deliberetly mis-quated him. Not being misquoted here. Aweys said the same thing too today. It is all political. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taleexi Posted May 14, 2009 Oo hadduu Shariif is casilo, ma square one in lagu noqdaa la rabaa. Kamakace put it eloquently the second best option is the way forward, and that is supporting Sharif's government....take from me while the war is ongoing, there is no room for negotiation and mediation...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peace Action Posted May 14, 2009 This is deadly naked power struggle that should never be rewarded. Sharif must stand his ground and fight and all peace loving Somalis should support him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted May 14, 2009 ^^Right on. Let me put it this way: amongst the innumerable vultures bent on preying on the weak Somali masses, alshabaab is the vulture king. They are mindless zealots who are in perpetual attitude to kill and destroy. The warlords we knew in the past are in comparison minor harpies. It’s necessary to set limit to their power, and establish forces commissioned to keep them down. This two along achieving clear monopoly in the use of violence in the Xamar city and putting in place authority whose supremacy few will ever dare to challenge must be the objectives of this war. Remember the war was started by alshabaab sensing weakness in Sharif’s tfg entity; the outcome therefore must be advantageous to Sharif. And for Somalia! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites