Who killed all these people....?

[General Duke]

^^^Good point, but lets look at it from another angle.

 

1.What about the Buaale incident when 5 injured prisoners were executed inside the hospital.

 

2.What about the Nun, the Swedish Cemera man who were slain in Mogadishu.

 

3.What about the Italian grave yard that was dugg up by the Al Shabaab group and the remains were sold back to the Italians.

 

These court groups are quite strange.

[Fiqikhayre]

These killings were mainly perpertrated by 'Peace-maker' Ahmed Diiriye's notorious Mogadishu death squads.

 

'Peace-maker' Ahmed Diiriye got this contract from Abdiqaasim, Galaal and their radical allies aligned to them, the group mainly lead by Hassan Dahir Aweys.

 

It is a well-known strategy of Al-Qaeda to assassinate people that are well respected in their communties especially those they deem a 'threat' to their future political plans and power.

 

Those include former military men who hold a high or middle rank (if a group within the city opposes the group of Hassan Dahir Aweys then they could be possible collabrators and because they have knowledge they have to be terminated), high ranking former police men, civil rights/human rights activists (they believe those work for other groups that are hostile to their future plans and they often accuse them of being western/christian spies), NGO workers (again they believe they have a sinister and ulterior motive such as converting children), former politicians and statesmen (again a dangerious group, they might come between the group and future political ambitions), ***Edited people who work for the media, who are investigating and following up particular stories especially western ones (anyone deemed that they might put or shed a light to Al-Qaeda's prepration in Somalia and training camps has to be shot on the spot, simple).

 

Sakhar.

[General Duke]

^^^Great analysis Sakhar.

[Socod_badne]

Originally posted by Allamagan:

However, the military officers and other prominent people were killed in mogadishu by some well known people like Galaal, A-Qasim and their ring for unkown reasons.

How do you know?

 

 

People, please ease up with the accusations. Accusations are worth a dime a dozen. Provide solid evidence or court convinctions. Elsewise stop accusing people of murder.

[Allamagan]

GD, Bu'aale was isolated incident and is not related to the killings that took place in Mogadishu. This were caried out by some local clan-centric thugs under the ICU flag who presumably thought the only time (chance) they can revange on these thickheads on the other side is now or never! with the blessing of ICU tho.

 

You know that the courts consisted of different groups with diferent interests. Some of them were greedy and with odd interests. Re. the swedish guy, I think it was the Courts who were behind his killings.

[Allamagan]

Originally posted by Socod_badne:

quote:Originally posted by Allamagan:

However, the military officers and other prominent people were killed in mogadishu by some well known people like Galaal, A-Qasim and their ring for unkown reasons.

How do you know?

 

People, please ease up with the accusations. Accusations are worth a dime a dozen. Provide solid evidence or court convinctions. Elsewise stop accusing people of murder.

Well, I agree with you that. What I am talking about is rumours. I heard many times Galaal is the one to blame all these deaths of all these top military and police men. Then strange enough he is always the first person to come to the crime scene and talk to the media. On three different occasions I heard him in Hornafrik Radio where he was at the crime scene talking to the media (the first man to come to the scene) about the marxum, how good he was, that they used to be friends and as usaul he was expressing all the sorrow he felt over the deceased and you know... he would talk about that a secret deadly mission is going on aimed at the top military, police and educated men by some dark forces.

 

So Allah knows best I am not accusing him of all these, however, I suspect him, having heard many people linking him to these then I combined these with all comments given by him at the each crime scene. so why he is the first to get there? He is always the first person to come to the scene, he is the only person in the media to comment about incident. So adeer, all these behaviour puts him into strong suspicious position. Wallahu Aclam!

[Castro]

Originally posted by Sergeant Sakhar:

It is a well-known strategy of Al-Qaeda to assassinate people that are well respected in their communties especially those they deem a 'threat' to their future political plans and power.

"Well known?" By whom? This statement seems more like some rubbish Tony Scott would utter at a white house press conference than a statement of fact. Do you have any proof son? First of Qaaida's presence in Somalia, specially in Muqdisho, and second if it was there, its involvement in any of those killings?

[NASSIR]

Castro, General Mohamed Sarinle was killed in his house right after he spoke on a big rally. He appealed to the people to welcome the TFG while it was in exile in Nairobi.

[Castro]

^^^ And that proves what Caamirow? That it was al-Qaaida? Was anyone arrested for that murder? If so, did they have any known and proven al-Qaaida connections? Did al-Qaaida claim responsibility for the killing?

 

That man could have easily been killed by anyone who's against the TFG. And nowadays, we're talking the overwhelming majority of Somalis, in other words, millions upon millions of people. Even the soil, if it could speak, would announce its rejection of this puppet regime and its stooge leaders.

 

We probably agree it was a political murder and it was wrong but al-Qaaida is an all too convenient but too far fetched a culprit atheer.

[Wisdom_Seeker]

LOL! Lately the TFG-Supporters are using words the Conservatives use. Terrorists, Al-Qaida, Death-Squads, Insurgents, extremists, and so on.

 

Copy-Cats.

 

If they only knew that the Conservatives see all Muslims regardless of tribe or clan as terrorists, extremists, and Al-Qaida members.

[Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar]

Originally posted by Dhubad:

Military group (ciidanka dalka)

 

· General yuusuf ahmed talan hotel sahafi, muqdisho Oct 18 2000.

 

· Colonel. Abdulahi Mohamed Warsame “Nero”, Lafoole. April 2003.

 

· Captain. Mohamed Adan, Xamarweyne April 2003.

 

· Colonel. Mohamed Ismail “Gure”, Aug 14, 2004.

 

· Police: Colonel Ismail Haji Osman. Gurigiisa, degmada Howlwadaag. Aug 14, 2004.

 

· General. Maxamed Cabdi Maxamed, degmada Shibis, sep 11, 2004.

 

· Colonel. Ahmed Ugaas “Foodey”, Oct 2004.

 

· S/Gaas. Maxamed Xaashi Gaani Asoo meyda laga heley hotelka uu daganaa, Nairobi Kenya Oct 18, 2004

 

· Colonel. Maxamuud Abdinuur Aadan “Bataar”, Degmada Howlwadaag, Oct 26, 2004.

 

· Police: General Yusuf Ahmed Sarinle, degmada Wardhiigley, Jan 23, 2005.

 

· Colonel Xirsi Maxamuud Cumar ”Xirsi Dhoore”, degmada Yaaqshiid, Jan 31, 2005.

 

· Police Officer: Cabdullaahi Kaahiye Cali, Afisyoone, March 07, 2005.

 

· Police. Colonel: Maxamed Saciid Maxamed, degmada Yaqshiid, may 21, 2005.

 

· Police. Colonel: Max'ed Cusmaan Coon, Three Biano, July 31, 2005.

 

· Colonel maxamed xasan maxamuud “cadaawe” Jan, 21 2006

 

· Taliyaha Maleshiyada X.Bootan Ciise, Saciid Axmed Sangaab iyo Xaaskisa, March 1, 2006.

 

· Marines Colonel Abuukar Maxamed Xusen (Abukar Dheere) Degmada Wardhigley, March 16, 2006.

Toddoba ama lix kale oo ciidanka Qaranka ka tirsanaan jiray ayaa la dilay since then, almost all since Xabashadda Xamar qabsadeen four months ago. There was a gap and lull between these murders the few months Maxkamadaha ka talinaayeen Xamar, perhaps the assassinators laying low.

 

I always wanted to document them, mar walbana iloowi jiray.

 

Inkastoo dadkaas la wada dilay ay ka dambeyn hal group, hadana dadka ciidamadda ugaarsanaayo inay Xabashadda tahay taas la iskuma haayo. Dalka inay ka dhigto ayee rabtaa saraakiil la'aan oo difaac la'. Mana dilaan dadkaas ciidamadda ugaarsado dadka la yaqaano ee caanka ah maxaa yeelay attention ayee usoo jiidayaan, mana dilaan dadka garaadadooda yartahay oo muhiim ma'aha dadkaas, kaliya waxee ugaarsadaan kuwa dhexda ku jiro oo gaashaanle, gaashaanledhexe iyo gaashaanglesare wada ah.

 

Dad kale iyagana waxgaradka iyo aqoonyahanadda, sida C/qaadir Yaxye, ugaarsado ayaa jiro, kuwaas qolooyin kale waaye oo dan kale leh.

 

Kuwa kalena aargudasho, qabiilnimo iyo lacag ayaa loo dilay. Kuwa si kadis ayee shil ugu dhinteen. Saas oo tahay, ciidamadda Qaranka kuwa ayaa ugaarsado, oo taas shaki kuma jirto.

[Som@li]

Who killed all these people....?

 

There is no doubt that some extreme ICU members were targeting and terminating those respected people, and they were highly organised even before they took over Mogadishu. The same group who used throw bombs on kids watching the premier leage, or people celebrating the new years.

[Som@li]

MMA,

 

Ma noo sheegi kartaa sababta keentay dadkaas oo dhan in lagu laayo Mogadishu? Maxaa keenay? Mise dadka ama generalada wadanka intiisa kale degan faaiido ma leh, oo wadaniyiiin maaha? Ma qabo anigu in amxaaro dilaysay? dadkaa liska ku jira oo dhan soomaali baa laysay.In la raadsho oo maxkamad la soo taago weeye.

[Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar]

Originally posted by Dabshid:

MMA,

 

Ma noo sheegi kartaa sababta keentay dadkaas oo dhan in lagu laayo Mogadishu? Maxaa keenay? Mise dadka ama generalada wadanka intiisa kale degan faaiido ma leh, oo wadaniyiiin maaha? Ma qabo anigu in amxaaro dilaysay? dadkaa liska ku jira oo dhan soomaali baa laysay.In la raadsho oo maxkamad la soo taago weeye.

Xamar magaalo weyn oo laba milyan waaye, oo meel lagu dhuunto iyo meel lagu dhex dhumo ayee leedahay both, unlike degmooyinka kale.

 

Dadkaas saraakiisha ahna la wada dilay hal qabiil kama tirsanayn, oo Soomaalida qabiilkooda dhan ayee lahayeen. Uma maleynaayi degmooyinka kale inay saraakiil badan deganyihiin, oo haddii la dilana qofkii dilo isla markiiba la ogaan karo, maadaama meel and dad lagu dhex dhuunto jirin.

 

Aniga dadka kala la dilay qolo kuma sheegi kari, laakiin waxaan hubaa saraakiisha dilkooda inay Xabashadda ka dambeyso, oo Soomaali ay soo tababartay u sameynaayo, mise kuwa iyaga ah Soomaali bartay.

 

Dad kale iyagana Galbeedka iyo mowqifkooda kasoo horjeedo ayaa jiro, una arkaan kuwa reer Galbeedka hay'adahooda ku xiran in la qaarjiyo, sida kuwa ka dambeeye dilkii C/qaadir Yaxye iyo Istarliin Caruush, inkastoo the latter lagu dilay Nayroobi.

[Jacaylbaro]

Soomaali iyaduun baa is dilaysa ,,, ama TFG dheh, ama ICU dheh ama shaydaan kele sheeg ,,,, after all waa soomaali uun ,,,,,, xabashina intuu muqdisho yimid cid kumuu dilin ee soomaali uun baa u adeegaysay ,,,,,,,,