Thinkerman Posted June 3, 2003 I know whe have been here before nomads but t# thought the article was a usefull one to read as a backdrop to th events that have thus far managed to unfold after 9-11. I must one its very long but its worthwhile reading if u like to keep abreast of the latest/alternaTIVE thinking on this issue ---------------------------------------------------------------- By John Kaminski, skylax@comcast.net Opposed by everyone in the world who was not bought off, the illegal invasion of Iraq was undertaken for many reasons - the imminent replacement of the dollar by the euro as the world's primary currency, the tempting lure of untapped oil reserves, the desire to consolidate U.S./Israeli military hegemony over a strategically vital region - but the most important reason was to further obscure questions about the awesome deception staged by the American government that has come to be known as 9/11. 9/11 was a hoax. This is no longer a wild conspiracy assertion; it is a fact, supported by thousands of other verifiable facts, foremost of which are: - The attacks of 9/11 COULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED without the willful failure of the American defense system. In Washington, Air Force pilots demanded to fly but were ordered to stand down. Yet instead of prosecuting the president and military leaders for this unprecedented dereliction of duty, military leaders were promoted and the president was praised for presiding over a defense system that suspiciously failed the most crucial test in its history. None of the deaths would have happened without the deliberate unplugging of America's air defenses. Planes that lose contact with control towers are usually intercepted by fighter jets inside of ten minutes, as the incident with the golfer's plane a few months earlier so clearly demonstrated. Yet on 9/11, the jetliners that struck New York were allowed to proceed unmolested for more than a half-hour, and the plane that supposedly crashed in Washington was not intercepted for more than an hour and forty minutes after it was widely known that four planes had been hijacked. - The twin towers could not have collapsed as a result of burning jet fuel. Most of that fuel was consumed on impact. In the south tower, most of the fuel was spilled outside the building. Heat caused by burning jet fuel does not reach temperatures needed to melt steel. What does stand out as particularly suspicious and still unexplained is that fires raged out of control beneath THREE of the collapsed towers for ONE HUNDRED DAYS, clearly indicating the presence of some kind of substance utilized in the demolition of the structures. The Twin Towers did not fall because of plane impacts or fires. Most likely explosives were placed on structural supports in the towers (as was done in Oklahoma City), and these controlled implosions snuffed out the lives of three thousand people. - FBI Director Robert Mueller insisted officials had no idea this kind of attack could happen when in fact the FBI had been investigating the possibility of EXACTLY this kind of attack for almost TEN YEARS. Numerous previous attempts at using planes as weapons, intimate knowledge of terror plans called Project Bojinka, and knowledge of suspicious characters attending flight schools who were being monitored by the FBI make his utterance a clear lie on its face. In the weeks before 9/11, the U.S. received warnings from all over the world that an event just like this was about to happen, but FBI investigations into suspected terrorists were suppressed and those warnings were deliberately disregarded. - The names of the alleged hijackers, all ostensibly Muslims, were released to the public only hours after the attacks, despite Mueller saying we had no knowledge this would happen. This is an impossible twist of logic. If he didn't know of a plan to strike buildings with planes, how would he know the names of the hijackers? Various artifacts were discovered in strategic places to try to confirm the government's story, but these have all been dismissed as suspicious planting of evidence. Since that time several names on that list have turned up alive and well, living in Arab countries. Yet no attempt has ever been made to update the list. And why were none of these names on the airlines' passenger lists? - Much like the invasion of Iraq, the anthrax attacks were designed to deflect attention from unanswered 9/11 questions in the patriotic pandemonium that followed the tragedy. In addition to making large amounts of money for the president's father and his friends from the hasty sale of inefficient drugs to a panicked populace, the investigation into these killings was abruptly halted when the trail of evidence led straight to the government's door, and has not been reopened. The anthrax attacks also amped up the climate of fear and deflected attention from the passage of the government's repressive Patriot Act. - The Patriot Act was presented in the days after the tragedy supposedly as a response to it, yet it was clear that this heinous act, drafted to nullify provisions for freedom in the U.S. Constitution, was put together long before 9/11. In addition, testimony by Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) revealed that most members of Congress were compelled to vote for the bill without even reading it. This was a vote to eliminate the Constitutional Bill of Rights, which has defined American freedom for 200 years, and it was accomplished when legislators voted for the bill without even reading it. - The invasion of Afghanistan was presented as an attempt to pursue the alleged perpetrators of 9/11, yet it had been discussed for years prior to the tragedy and actually planned in the months before the attacks on New York and Washington. Statements by Zbigniew Brzezinski and the Republican-written Project for a New American Century have stressed that America needed a formidable enemy to accomplish its aggressive geopolitical aims. The supposed enemy we attacked in Afghanistan was a diverse group of men from all over the world who were initially recruited, encouraged and supported by the American CIA. - The hole in the Pentagon was not made by a jumbo jet. Damage to the building was simply not consistent with the size of the hole nor the absence of debris. At the supposed point of impact, a whole bank of windows remained unbroken and there were no marks on the lawn. No airplane debris (except what was planted on the lawn) nor remains of passengers were ever found. - The president has admitted that he continued to read a story to schoolchildren in a Florida school for 30 minutes after being informed that two planes had struck New York and that the nation was under attack. He has never explained this puzzling behavior, nor how he saw the first plane hit. It was never televised, only recorded by a French crew filming firemen in New York. In that film, the plane in question does not appear to be a passenger airliner. - The plane in Pennsylvania was shot down and broke apart in midair. No other explanation can account for the wreckage, which was spread over a six-mile area, or the eyewitness accounts that describe debris falling from the sky. - Cellphone calls cannot be made from airliners in flight that are not close to the ground. As research by Professor A. K. Dewdney has shown, the emotional conversations between hijacked passengers and others would not have been possible under conditions that existed at that moment. These calls were cynical fabrications, exploiting the distraught emotions of those who lost loved ones. - Radio communications from firefighters on the upper floors of the Trade Center towers clearly indicate that fires were under control and the structure was in no danger of collapsing. These are merely a few of the deliberately false statements made by U.S. officials about 9/11. They provide crystal clear evidence that our president, his staff, and many legislators should be indicted on charges of treason, obstruction of justice and mass murder. Above all, these evil men should be removed from their positions of authority before they implement more of their moneymaking murder schemes like the one they are now perpetrating on the innocent people of Iraq. Otherwise, we face a future of endless war abroad and merciless repression at home. Consider just a few more of the other unanswered questions from among the thousands of unexplained loose ends that all point to 9/11 being an inside job. - Who benefited from the suspiciously high numbers of put options purchased prior to September 11 for shares in companies whose stock prices subsequently plummeted, on the supposition that whoever was behind the hijacking was also behind most of the purchases of these put options? And what was the role of the new executive director of the CIA, Buzzy Krongard, who handled these transactions? - Why was the debris from the collapsed Twin Towers removed from the site with no forensic examination? Why was almost all of it sold to scrap merchants and shipped abroad where it would not be available for scientific examination? - Why does the government refuse to release any transcripts of communications or any records at all relating to signals of any form transmitted by those jets? - Why did so many people, from San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown to many employees of companies in the World Trade Center who failed to come to work that day, know in advance that something bad was going to happen on Sept. 11, 2001? - Why do all the major U.S. media continue to act as if none of these questions is legitimate or relevant? Today, millions of people around the world are protesting the criminal destruction of the nation of Iraq. But these protests won't change the number of minds necessary to stop America's criminal madmen from continuing with their genocidal aim of enslaving the entire world. What WILL stop them is spreading the realization that President George W. Bush and his billionaire accomplices in the oil industry perpetrated 9/11 as an excuse to begin the militarization of America for the purpose of world conquest. History has shown all too clearly the deceived American people WILL support the destruction of faraway countries on phony pretexts of defending so-called freedom. Thus the needless wars continue. Right now we watch high-tech weapons slaughter the defenseless people of Iraq. Soon it will be Iran, Syria, Colombia, Venezuela, North Korea, Egypt, Libya, Nigeria, North Korea, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and who knows where else. All these misguided atrocities will be possible because of the hoax known as 9/11. But the American people will not - and cannot - tolerate leaders who kill our own people merely to invent a pretext - the war on terror - to go around killing anyone they like. If the American people DO tolerate such an insane strategy, then they clearly do not deserve to survive as a nation or a people Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J.Lee Posted June 3, 2003 Air Force pilots demanded to fly but were ordered to stand down. :eek: WHAT War balaayo! The twin towers could not have collapsed as a result of burning jet fuel. Most of that fuel was consumed on impact. In the south tower, most of the fuel was spilled outside the building. Heat caused by burning jet fuel does not reach temperatures needed to melt steel. That is interesting to say the least. I'm silent as F!ck like two mating mimes. The names of the alleged hijackers, all ostensibly Muslims, were released to the public only hours after the attacks, despite Mueller saying we had no knowledge this would happen. This is an impossible twist of logic. If he didn't know of a plan to strike buildings with planes, how would he know the names of the hijackers? That is what I want to know the answer to myself. it doesn't make sense at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gabbal Posted June 3, 2003 The names of the alleged hijackers, all ostensibly Muslims, were released to the public only hours after the attacks, despite Mueller saying we had no knowledge this would happen. This is an impossible twist of logic. If he didn't know of a plan to strike buildings with planes, how would he know the names of the hijackers? I know what you mean Ms Word. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thoth Posted June 3, 2003 Shujui-1 You would stand back and tell me just because you only copy the writings of others, and attempt to make them seem real, that you aren't helping them or spreading lies. Under your logic then, if I drive my car to your house, kill you and your family, it's your fault. You know that many american's don't like black people or foreigners, so why didn't you stop me then. And how easy would it be for the police to find out who I was? How about if I went around all day talking like Adolf Hitler. Hey, I would only be saying what he has said, so it's not my fault if people do things becasue of what I say. Maybe I could re-write the things that slave owners have already written. Not just the ones in america, but the ones in europe, asia, and africa too. I am sure that some people from around the world would like that. There are alot of groups in the world like skin-heads, facists, and terrorists to name a few. When you copy their statements, quotes, or stories, in an attempt to make them seem real, then you are helping them. I only took the time to read about 5 of your arguments, and realized they were all full of garbage. I would really like to use stronger profane words, but I want this posted. [ June 07, 2003, 07:07 PM: Message edited by: Admin ] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thinkerman Posted June 4, 2003 Hey throth if ou want to use profanaties to express your displeasure with the article i posted then do so dont let me stop you . Now i read the article, and enjoyed reading it, i didnt subscribe to all the views of John Kamnski but i do share his broader assumptions on the whole article. And your answer as usual do not make much sense at all, i cannot see where hitler and racsim come into this at all. The fact remains that the immediate aftermath of 9-11 saw ur countries administration activily planning military invasion of countries that it was at odd with and didnt fall within its shpere of controll. To date Afganisitan and Iraq have been invaded and Destroyed, and your country had tried unsuccesfull to link various countries including somalia with terrorism with the aim of carrying out there doctrine of premption. Indeed it seems that it would also in one shape or another liek to enagge with syria and iran and deal with N Koera in the not to distant future, who knows. So yes it in my mind at least all ties in with 9-11, and although your govnt my not have staged the events of taht day, it certainly has taken full advantage of ti to pursure its aim of world domination. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nuune Posted June 5, 2003 very interesting article,it is a hoaks,i never believed that happened Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Modesty Posted June 5, 2003 I also heard that Ariel Sharon was to make a visit to washington on 9/11,but he delayed.It was the first time that Israel started to use these bombs on the defenseless Palestinians,and all the attention of the world was on Israel, they needed some type of diverse-9/11. Interesting... Americans are good people, but they are puppets of the gov't, they are given subliminal messages, that make them believe in order to be patriotic they must agree with Bush! I hope someone stop this madman, before he destroys the peace of the universe! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality Check Posted June 7, 2003 The real question is ...Who is telling the truth? I for one can't say whether 9/11 was a hoax or not. I do believe that Bush and Administration are taking full advantage of the situation.. I smell a strong stench of conspiracy theory **sniff sniff* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniper80 Posted June 9, 2003 I'm not disputing whether this was a hoax or not, but one thing is for sure bush is a mad man just like his father. Is everyone hear forgeting what the QURAN & SUNNAH SAY ABOUT THE KUFUR THE CONCEAL THE TRUTH & NEVER TRUST THEM THESE PEOPLE WILL KILL THEIR OWN CHILDREN FOR THE BIGGER CAUSE IF IT CAME TO THAT, WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT JUST ANYONE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE MOST EVIL PEOPLE IN THE WORLD FREEMASON'S.WORD. SO BRO'S & SIS'S DON'T BUY INTO THEIR BULL S**T WHETHER THEY STAGED IT OR NOT THEY STILL WANT TOTAL WORLD DOMINATION WHAT EVER IT TAKES, IF THEY ARE WILLING TO SEND IN THEIR PEOPLE TO INVADE OTHER COUNTRIES ON A PRE-EMPTIVE ATTACK AND LET THEM DIE FOR THAT WITH NO EMOTIONS ATTACHED JUST A PAT ON THE BACK THANX FOR RISKING UR LIFE FOR OUR FREEDOM.BULLS**T :cool: :cool: :cool: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thinkerman Posted June 11, 2003 An Interesting Compliation Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blessed Posted June 12, 2003 Where is Bin Laden? When Bush asked, he laughed and said he didn't know! I was reading this article on the PAN American movement. It argued that AlQaeda itself was created by America.. makes perfect sense as America used AlQaeda to fight with the Russians! :rolleyes: What has AlQaeda done for the muslims - nothing!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites