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[Jacaylbaro]

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[Juje]

The subject matter is not something that needs to be discussed mildly let alone be accepted as some of you are suggesting. It is sick, immoral and utterly contradicts the teaching and practice of Islam, that is if you still believe in it. I wouldnt freaking care about it if it was in a Socialist tabloid and advocating for the rights of this God forsaken people - but in a Somali forum it is exceptionally disgusting. Now some of you as I read in your posts are hoping they have a peaceful life - it shows that you are more tempted to be marked as a Somali liberal and more modern. It is suprising how people drop their dignity and morals at the sound of 'modern'.

Well i will tell you straight forward if you are afraid of it - homosexuality - is and cannot be accepted and anyone practicing should be burned to dead if I was asked.

Damn you are accepting queers now, what will you be accepting in ten years time - peados. Bloody liberals I would say.

[Peacenow]

Originally posted by Juje:

The subject matter is not something that needs to be discussed mildly let alone be accepted as some of you are suggesting. It is sick, immoral and utterly contradicts the teaching and practice of Islam, that is if you still believe in it. I wouldnt freaking care about it if it was in a Socialist tabloid and advocating for the rights of this God forsaken people - but in a Somali forum it is exceptionally disgusting. Now some of you as I read in your posts are hoping they have a peaceful life - it shows that you are more tempted to be marked as a Somali liberal and more modern. It is suprising how people drop their dignity and morals at the sound of 'modern'.

Well i will tell you straight forward if you are afraid of it - homosexuality - is and cannot be accepted and anyone practicing should be burned to dead if I was asked.

Damn you are accepting queers now, what will you be accepting in ten years time - peados. Bloody liberals I would say.

They are entitled to their right. And they have rights. I say good on them. Your rights to live as you want is something, I'm positively for. You lost your argument, when you stand and call for people to be burned to death. As if we haven't seen enough violence already.

[Xidigo]

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[Juje]

Originally posted by peacenow:

Your rights to live as you want is something, I'm positively for. You lost your argument, when you stand and call for people to be burned to death. As if we haven't seen enough violence already.

Can you give me the rights to hate them if you have rendered them the right to live.

It is puzzling sxb how you entertain a notion to accept 'quers' as ordinary members of society - need I ask.

Am sorry the 'burning' thing did not go down well with you - and on a serious note I would suggest such a thing - but I will seriously advocate for them to be 'quarantined' from the society. Purely for the reason not to create a society growing up that homosexuality is a decent thing.

[Fabregas]

Originally posted by Juje:

The subject matter is not something that needs to be discussed mildly let alone be accepted as some of you are suggesting. It is sick, immoral and utterly contradicts the teaching and practice of Islam, that is if you still believe in it. I wouldnt freaking care about it if it was in a Socialist tabloid and advocating for the rights of this God forsaken people - but in a Somali forum it is exceptionally disgusting. Now some of you as I read in your posts are hoping they have a peaceful life - it shows that you are more tempted to be marked as a Somali liberal and more modern. It is suprising how people drop their dignity and morals at the sound of 'modern'.

Well i will tell you straight forward if you are afraid of it - homosexuality - is and cannot be accepted and anyone practicing should be burned to dead if I was asked.

Damn you are accepting queers now, what will you be accepting in ten years time - peados. Bloody liberals I would say.

Saxiib, we dislike what they do as much as you and this is a totally unacceptable act in Islam. If they are claiming this acceptable in Islam, the it is our duty to refute them. However, you must realise that you(or we) live in the West and we have no ability to stop them without being imprisoned or violating the law of the land. We must refute them ideologically, but we don't have the right to take pshyical action or burn any people.

[Kool_Kat]

Originally posted by GJ:

However, you must realise that you(or we) live in the West and we have no ability to stop them without being imprisoned or violating the law of the land. We must refute them ideologically, but we don't have the right to take pshyical action or burn any people.

THANK YOU!!! That's all there's to it...

[Gediid]

Sidey ku socoto malaha maalin dhow SOL gay section ha loo subeeyo aa la dhihi doonaa....

[Peacenow]

Originally posted by Juje:

quote:Originally posted by peacenow:

Your rights to live as you want is something, I'm positively for. You lost your argument, when you stand and call for people to be burned to death. As if we haven't seen enough violence already.

Can you give me the rights to hate them if you have rendered them the right to live.

It is puzzling sxb how you entertain a notion to accept 'quers' as ordinary members of society - need I ask.

Am sorry the 'burning' thing did not go down well with you - and on a serious note I would suggest such a thing - but I will seriously advocate for them to be 'quarantined' from the society. Purely for the reason not to create a society growing up that homosexuality is a decent thing.

Well who are you or me to suggest to another person what is 'normal'. Maybe they would consider me 'unnormal' or maybe you. What is it about them that you find so threathning?

If they live their life and not do harm. Who are you to judge them? You are not god. You will no doubt die and so will they, eventually, which i suppose when the 'judging' will begin. So why not let matters run it course?

 

If Somalis stopped resorting to burn or kill anyone who disagrees with them, maybe you would have had a functional state now, instead of the disgrace we have now.

[Ismahaan]

The Quran forbids any sexual relationship other than in a marriage between a man and a woman. Many homosexual men and women claim that they are born with their sexual preferences and that they have no choice. Although this point is very much in dispute in the medical world, it has no support in the Quran. Even then, irrespective of the nature of homosexuality, this matter would not affect the laws spelled out clearly in the Quran .

 

Our Prophet (scw) cursed homosexuals by repeating three times: "Allah has cursed anyone who does what Lut's people did." And he said: "If you find any persons engaged in homosexuality, kill both the active and the passive partner. Indeed we Somalis born in islam and we know that homosexuality is a major sin, which Allah has prohibited in the following verses:Of all creatures in the world, do you approach males and leave those whom Allah created for you as your mates? But, rather, you transgressors! (Al-Sh'ura 26: 165-166)

 

Allah also says concerning His prophet, Lut: Truly, they were an evil people, perverted! (Al-Anbiya 21:84)

 

In another verse, Allahs When Our decree issued We turned (the cities) upside down and rained down on them brimstones hard as baked clay spread layer on layer Marked as from thy Lord: nor are they ever far from those who do wrong! - Holy Quran 11:82-83

 

In my point of view Lesbians and Gays should have no right and justice in any given society and especially not in Islam society

[Juje]

Originally posted by peacenow:

Well who are you or me to suggest to another person what is 'normal'. Maybe they would consider me 'unnormal' or maybe you. What is it about them that you find so threathning?

If they live their life and not do harm. Who are you to judge them? You are not god.

Xashaa!

Sxb inta aysan sheekadu nala fogaan, what do you use as moral judgement, what do u use to differentiate wrong from right or vice versa? Bal ii kala cadey?

[Jacaylbaro]

Originally posted by Ismahaan:

In my point of view Lesbians and Gays should have no right and justice in any given society and especially not in Islam society

Well, they do have rights and justice more than you exercise your religion. You live in the gaalo land walaalo and that is why.

[Peacenow]

Well the Qu'ran forbids many things. Many things which you yourself has no doubt broken today, last week or the past month.

It also speaks, and I may recall, that in someway, you could take it that the Earth as we know it today is flat and not round. There are some passages I believe which disprove the proved curve theory.

 

There many millions of gays in the Muslim World. Many thousands and thousands gay Somalis. Deal with it.

 

If you argue against homosexuality, you would need better arguments than that, as overtime it will not hold up. And especially when you embrass yourself by calling for someone to be killed or burned.

When the simplest and most effective counter, and whch i throw at you is that. You are imperfect, so are they. So let them be, leave them to be and live your own life. Everyone will be judged in time.

[Jacaylbaro]

peacenow, you are crossing the border sxb and you are getting far far away from the religion. Never ever oppose something which clear in the Quran for the sake of argument. It is a plain Kufr Walahi.

[Juje]

Originally posted by SheekhaJacaylka:

peacenow, you are crossing the border sxb and you are getting far far away from the religion. Never ever oppose something which clear in the Quran for the sake of argument. It is a plain Kufr Walahi.

He does not believe in it. It is obvious - certainly the effort to argue this issue with him was not worth it. Hence I will take GJ's advise and tell PeaceN:

 

In the Name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful

6. To you be your Way, and to me mine.

 

Surah 109. Al-Kafirun (verse 6)