ONLF to become legal opposition?

[PasserBy]

ONLF to become Legal opposition?

 

While new comers to the extremism camp, the likes of "Ginbot 7" warms up to cozy with the regime in Asmara, the old timers are giving up arms and Asmara and are rumored to have shown their interest to join the legal process. Weeks after the WSLF deal, the Ethiopian government and the ONLF may be on the verge of signing a deal where the ONLF will become another legal opposition abiding by the constitution.

 

Although we have not been able to confirm the "news to come yet" ,if true, this is a huge development and will help the democratic process in Ethiopia immensely.

 

As you all know for the first time Ethiopians all over the country including people in the Somali Regional state will be casting their vote on May 23, 2010. [aigaforum 04/29/10]

 

(Aigaforum is a pro government website.)

 

http://www.aigaforum.com/

[Saalax]

I though ONLF was fighting for self-determination and not to climb the ladder of politics in ethiopia?

[PasserBy]

If I am not mistaken ONLF was part of the government during the transitional period in early 1990s. I don't know what caused it to walk away, but once WSLF signed an agreement with the government, it was a matter of time before ONLF capitulated. By the way, don't believe ONLF's endless military communique from London. It is meant to keep its supporters from yawning for sleep.

[Kamaavi]

^But you believe ONLF is a terrorist truck burner right? ,,,

[Kashafa]

^^ Intaa qosol-gareer'ka iska dhaaftid, ka jawaab su'uaasha

 

If I am not mistaken ONLF was part of the government during the transitional period in early 1990s

True or False ?

 

I wonder how crushed and disillusioned you'll become once you find out the ONLF signed a 'peace deal'(read: naked surrender) with Tigray dictatorship.

[NASSIR]

Some of my friends from the region actually related to me that the deal between United Somali Western Liberation Front and the Ethiopian government rattled the ranks of ONLF leaders. Majority of the local inhabitants, the sentiment goes, have become weary of this endless war and want peace and development. The rationale for this shift of perception and political stance is that since Ethiopia's tentacles of indirect control stretch beyond the disputed borders, it's counter-productive to go on this strategy. "Doing the same thing over and over and expect a different outcome" says the famous Chinese proverb.

Another reason for this shift of ONLF's decline of assumed popular support is that it has been accused of engaging subversive activities of the Islamist's influence and even direct onslaught to curry favor from the West, but this has worked to the advantage of [edit. Sheikh] Ibraahim and made him pretty populist as the leader of UWSLF, and, thus, he consolidated his power in the region.

It's possible the soi-dissant agreement might force ONLF to change the face value of its struggle and become legal contestors under Ethiopia.

[Kamaavi]

^Who is Ali Ibrahim ya Nasir?

 

 

@Kashafa, your q has been taken when you were busy with nonsense advertisements.

 

Forget about tomorrow. According to your logic, you should get crushed and disillusioned badly now since Al itixad has surrendered nakedly xayeysiis danbe ,,,, iyo bla bla qaylo maa kuu hadhsan....

 

ONLF jihadka ay ku jirto dadka qaarkood kama gado. Waa ka niyad iyo Ikhlaas!

[NASSIR]

Fergusson, sorry I meant sheikh Ibraahim. How do you see this news and do you agree this idea that is gathering storm, that is ONLF might change the face of its struggle and opt for a negotiated settlement?

[PasserBy]

But you believe ONLF is a terrorist truck burner right?

Whether they burn trucks or steal goats, ONLF folks are delusional bunch who inflict pain on their own people. The fact that over 2.5 million registered to vote speaks volumes about the wishes of the people in the region. They want to live in peace and harmony. They want to see their region developed by leaps and bounds.

[The Zack]

Originally posted by PasserBy:

If I am not mistaken ONLF was part of the government during the transitional period in early 1990s. I don't know what caused it to walk away, .

So you don't really know what happened in the 1990's and you are not sure what caused the ONLF to fight agains the tigray regime yet you have the ****** to come to SOL to inform us that the ONLF are to about surrender? I am just trying to make sure we are on the same page.

[Kashafa]

^^ Actually, I've read before in more than one publication that the ONLF was 'affiliated'(for the lack of a better word) with the Xabashi gov before they took up arms, but this is what Google turned up:

 

 

An interview where ONLF head Osman skirts around this issue but doesn't address it head-on:

 

[Asharq Al-Awsat] When was the ONLF founded, and what are the goals for which it is fighting?

 

[Osman] The ONLF was founded in 1984, but began armed action 10 years later, in 1994, after the ruling party in Ethiopia

reneged on its promises to the political parties

and to the peoples of Ethiopia and

revoked an agreement

to resolve the ****** issue in a peaceful way. The front's goal is to liberate this region from the Ethiopian occupation.

So from 1984 to 1994, ONLF was part of Ethiopian gov ? Or at the very least, a political party that abided by Ethiopian constitution ? Does this not mean that they recognise Ethiopia's claim ? Whereas the thoroughbreds consider every last square inch of Somali Galbeed to be Somali-Muslim soil, inviolable territory, that is not up for negotiation, but wexii xoog lagu qaatay, xoog baa lagu soo celiyaa ?

 

Can you see the difference now ?

 

 

Another major problem:

 

Asharq Al-Awsat] As leader of the ONLF, do you consider yourself an Ethiopian citizen, a Somali citizen, or a citizen of another nationality?

 

[Osman] I do not want to answer this question at present

and

[Asharq Al-Awsat] Do you believe that O'ia is an Ethiopian or Somali region or what?

 

[Osman] Currently, O'ia is a region occupied by Ethiopia. Ethiopia calls it the fifth province of Ethiopia, where Somalis live. But it is the Somali people in the region who will have the final say in this matter. We call for holding a free referendum. When this question is put to them, everything will be settled.

Nin Somalinimada inkiraayo sidee baa uu taageeraysa ? Magacii Soomaliyeed buu ka cararaa. Or is this considered 'diblumaasiyah' ?

 

Source

[Faafan]

Some people should really sue there brain for non-support walee.

 

ONLF in now way has excepted the Ethiopian constitution or making apparent deals with Ethiopia, this was reitrated recently by the ONLF Leader Maxamed Cumar Cismaan and the Foreign Affairs Minister Maadey.

 

This whole thing again is nothing but a face-saving exercise by this shadowy group by the UWSLF and the Ethiopians, currently trying to take attention away from its Election scam.

 

Nassir "rattled" is a strong word in this case sxb kkkk...ONLF was trying to expose this hoax(UWSLF) ever since there arrival on the Internet and the airwaves in 2005, since they had no military strength on the ground, as Seyoum Mesfin even admitted to the embrassment of the UWSLF.The level of support this group has is very small, within the region there known as a group of ex Al-Itixaad the defunt Islamist group of the 90's.Hence ONLF and there supporters are infact very pleased they have defected to Ethiopia, the propoganda they were spewing has simply crumbled now.So they command no Support and sooner or later they will cease to even exist, if they havnt already.

 

Passerby your arguments are simply flawed, the fact that you beleive "2.5 million" people have been allegedly registered for the fake elections disaproves your knowledge of this region and hence your simply spitting recycled propoganda from Addis Ababba.

 

Kashafa kkk i thought you were a bit more informed than that.

 

ONLF was formed in 1984 by former members of the WSLF, they became less-confident in the WSLF which was been controlled directly by agents from Mogaidhsu hecne loosing grip on reality.There goal was to win independece for Gobolka O'gaden/Somali Galbeed without interference from both Somalia and Ethiopia.

 

In that period they were not involved in armed conflict and did not join any Political movement.So no they were not apart of the Ethiopian Derg regime.

 

In the 1990's, they joined the as an independent Political Party while all Ethiopian opposition were joining the Tigray EPDRF party with the intention of using the Ethiopian constitution under article 39 where upon every nation and nationality has the right to self-determination and seccession.This was violently rejected by the Addis regime,they set upon the ONLF killing there supporters and officials culminating in the attempted assisination of Sheikh Abdalla the then ONLF leader.80 people gave there lives in the city of Wardheer that day in defence of Sheekh Abdalle.ONLF at this stage was retreating to the countryside.

 

Till this day ONLF is the only elected goverment of the Somali region.The rest have all been elected from Addis Abbaba.

 

The Admiral has answered all those questions correctly btw.He is not a citizen of any country, he is fighting for his country.Ethiopia is the enemy and Somalia is an ungoverned wasteland.They both do not belong to him.He hasnt mentioned anything about Somalinimo.His whole aim is to give a large portion of the Somali people there universal right to freedom, its a shame you try and attempt to twist his words here.

 

[Abtigiis]

Whether Kashafa will be happy or not, I want to confirm that there are no such talks.

 

AigaForum is owned by Meles's closest associates and they are talking about what they would have loved to see.

 

This should confirm to all that the regime in Ethiopia is dying to get into settlement with ONLF. They have sent their emisseries through Embassies, notably through some African countries, but were rebuffed for it is clear that this is an opportunistic election-time gimmick.

 

The ONLF is fighting for the self-determination of the people of Somaligalbeed. But it has no fear of sitting and negotiating with Ethiopia and entering into an agreement as long as it is going to benefit the oppressed people of Somaligalbeed. It can agree to partake in Ethiopian national politics if it sees is as beneficial to the Somali people in the long run. It can agree to a painful cohabitation if key decisions on utilisation of the resources of the region are left to the people of the region and if Somali's are allowed to live without fear.

 

Because current Addis Ababa regime can never gurantee these basic requirements, it is not possible to reach any agreement with it. A crucial test of the change of poicy by Addis is to stop meddling in the affiars of Somalia and leaving those people to reconstruct their country. As we speak, Meles is the ruler of Ethiopia and Somalia. His ego is inflated and he sees no reason why few camel-boys from one clan should challenge his regional hegemony. This needs to be stopped and credit goes to the ONLF for not capitulating at a time any other Somali in the face of earth is in the pocket of Meles.

 

The ONLF stuggle is much more than a struggle for political gains and self-determination. It is avbout Somali pride as well.

 

Rest assured, the ONLF will not take part in any agreement in which it is not going to get what it fought for!

[Kashafa]

Jabhad & AT&T,

 

If it is as you say, then that is good news. Much as I disagree with the ONLF's secular approach and divisive politicking, as long as gumaca rasaas'ta iyo guuxa madaafiic'da ay ku guraayaan Xabashi In-jirley, I am forced to support them.

 

Laakin ayaan daro waxay noqonaysaa if they also concot a sham of a disgraceful 'peace deal', like Shaykh Ibrahim Dheere recently did.(May Allah forgive him, waa nin aa khayr badan ku naqaano laakin, caqli-xumo iyo ta'waeel khaldan baa qaaday).

 

Wexii xoog lagu qaatay, xoog oo kaliya aa lagu soo celiyaa.

[Kamaavi]

Col iyo abaar dad aan ogeyn,, ayaa raba inay ONLF wax ka sheegaan ,,,,