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[Muhammad]

» Asalamu Alaykum, Ramadan Kariim

 

Alhamdulilah we are in the blessed month of Ramadan - the month when the faifhful compete for good deeds and Allah's pleasure.

 

Some of the brothers and sisters have already started wonderful threads, with projects and missions to earn us good deeds in Ramadan.

 

I wanted to open up this thread so we could learn more about our history and civilizations. It is very important for one to know his history, cause if one has no knowledge of what happened before him, he has no ambitions for the present or the future.

 

so lets lear our Islamic History while also making it fun and enjoyable:

 

» First someone will ask a question(s). Before you ask make sure you know the answer.

 

» Then whoever knows the answer will post it. And then ask a new question.

 

» In between questions we can discuss more and depate on the subject.

 

 

So Insha'Allah I'll Ask the first Question(s):

1. who was the Muslim Leader who was born a Prince - grew up aa Slave - Became a Sultan and defeated the Tartars(Mongols) and Died as a King?

 

2. where and when did the battle against Tartars took place?

 

3. who was leading the army of the Mongols?

 

goog luck

macasalaama - ramadaan kariim

[Nur]

Conquest

 

 

I read that story in grade school, it was called " Waa Islaamaah", I can recall QUDZ and other personalities, but I have to dust my history files, I a sure an hour of concentration can bring the names back, by the way, why not mention his sister who was also captivated as slave?

 

 

Nur

[LuCkY]

SaLaaMz,

 

1-Baybars al-Bunduqdari,

 

2-September 3,1260, The BattLe of Ayn JaLut @Jezreel Valley of Palestine

 

3-Kedbuqa(Commander)

 

Conquest is this correct or do i have my info out of pLace and whatnot?

[Muhammad]

Greetings Nur & Lucky

 

you both got some part of the answers

 

1. The Emir's name was Mahmood Saifuddin Qutz (Nur)

 

2. The battle took place at Friday 25th Ramadhan 658 AH (september 1260 AD) in Ain Jaloot - Palestine.(Lucky)

 

3. The Leader of the Mongols was Kedbuqa (Hulego Khan heir to Genghis Khan)(Lucky)

 

 

ps. Lucky Baybars did take part in this battle and he was commanding the right-wing of the Muslim army, but he wasn't the Amir. Qudz and Baybars did live in the same house when they where young and slaves in Syria, but they later met in Egypt where they joined the Muslim, Qutz became one of the bodyguards of the Sultan of Egypt, the crusaders attacked egypt, the sultan and the muslim army went to face them, both Qutz and Baybars went with him.

 

The sultan died before they deafeted the crusaders. The muslims defeated the Crusaders and went back to Egypt. When the son of the Sultan, who lacked experience, was asked to step down and let Qutz became the Sultan of Egypt, he accepted. Then Qutz lead the Muslim army towards the Mongols who where headed for Jeruselam from Syria. The two armies met in Ain Jaloot and there the Mongols where defeated.

 

 

Bro Nur - I think the girl was his cousin, she was the daughter of the Sultan of the Khwarazmshahs and Quz mother was the sister of the Sultan. - Insha'Allah I'll check on this.

 

Next Qustion » who wants to ask?

[LuCkY]

Conquest this confused the heck outta me.I read about it but was so :confused: so i went with Baybars because i got the information on him and since Baybars had him assassinated i didnt think that he wouLd be it<---aLL right i wiLL stop here dont wanna get everyone eLse confused.

 

BTW do the questions have a specific guideLine or can it be just about anything so Long as it is within the IsLamic history?

[Muhammad]

Originally posted by Lucky:

Conquest this confused the heck outta me.I read about it but was so :confused: so i went with Baybars because i got the information on him and since Baybars had him assassinated i didnt think that he wouLd be it<---aLL right i wiLL stop here dont wanna get everyone eLse confused.

Yes it is said that Baybar's soldiers assassinated Qutoz but it happend after the Mongols where defeated and when the Muslims began to divide.

 

It always happens, after a nation unites against a common enemy, and when that enemy is defeated - they began to divide into different camps and began to fight each other. As Somalis I think we know this better.

 

BTW do the questions have a specific guideLine or can it be just about anything so Long as it is within the IsLamic history?

Yes it can be about anything that is related to Islamic History.

[Qac Qaac]

Conquest bro thanks for starting this, one my favourite things to do is, to read about islamic history in debth, and learn in details from it. u see that the mistakes the muslims did before we still doing it. which means we didn't learn from our history.

 

anyways since i see no one, had asked a question.

i will take this apportunity to ask if u all don't mind.

 

under the Umayyad caliph Walid bin Abdalmalik, his time was considered the Golden times for the Umayyads, he had 3 GENERALS UNDERHIM, FAMOUS GENERALS.

 

WHO COULD TELL ME THEIR NAMES, AND WHERE THEY WERE FIGTHING...

 

SIMPLE QUESTION.

[Blush 247]

Salaam

 

I have a question that is burning inside me and I need it to be answered. I have heard that April Fools day was a trick played upon the muslim empire in Turkey. Can someone please elobrate on this if it is so.

 

Much appreciated

[LuCkY]

Qac Qaac aLthough im not too sure im gonna go with-AL-Hajjaj Yusuf-KhaLId Ibn AL-WaLid-Abd AL-Aziz.

 

 

WeLL now you can disregard my answer.

[sayfulaah-almasluul]

originaly posted by QAC Qac.

under the Umayyad caliph Walid bin Abdalmalik, his time was considered the Golden times for the Umayyads, he had 3 GENERALS UNDERHIM, FAMOUS GENERALS

i wonder if any moslim consider walliid bin malik's time as golden era?who does consider that way Qac qac?he was the murder of the hasan and husien the grand sons of prophet mohamed b.p.u.h. he was the man who aggressivly attacked the protected city of madina,he was the man behind murdering hundered of sahabas ?can any one consider man like that as hero or his time as golden era? i think we moslim all consider him as one of most totrious dictator,in moslim world.

as for his general i think they were as follow:

1-ibnu ziyat

i donot remeber the names of the other two.

appreciated if eblighten us

2-

[Muhammad]

Qac Qaac

 

greetings bro - good question!

 

3 Generals:

 

1. Musa Bin Nusair and his lieutenant Tariq Bin Ziyaad (Andalusia, spain)

2. Muhammad bin Qasim (India)

3. Qutaiba bin Muslim Baheli (Khurasan)

 

Blush

 

sis the origin of April Fools Day is still not known, but I doubt it started with the turks. it probably started when the west changed its new year from April 1 to Jan 1.

 

 

sayfulaah-almasluul

 

Akhi I don't think it was Waleed who killed Hussain, it was the Army of Yazid who killed him in 61 A.H. Hussein and most of the Sahaba have already died when Waleed became the caliph of the Ummayyad. And as far as I have read about him, he was a good muslim and caliph.

 

Here is a list of some of achievements of the Ummayyad Khilafah under Waleed bin Abdilmalik Al-Marwan:

 

Khalifah of Al-Walid ibn ‘Abdil-Malik (705-15)

 

Expanded Al-Masjid An-Nabawi - started by his father. (706)

 

Bukhara and other places liberated. (706)

 

Al-Andalus (Spain) liberated.

Parts of France liberated. (711)

 

 

Sind and Punjab (India) liberated. (712)

Khawarizm and Samarqand liberated. (712)

 

Kabul (Afghanistan) liberated. (713)

 

Tus liberated. (715)

 

 

Salaams Ramdanaan Kariim

[Muhammad]

Asalamu Alaykum

 

Before we move from this topic here is a nice short biography of Waleed Bin Abdilmalik. Enjoy!

 

Taken from: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/islamawarenessclub/message/6469

 

WALEED-THE UMAYYAD CALIPH

 

On the death of the Umayyad Caliph, Abdul Malik, known as the

Charlemagne of the Arabs, in 705 AC., his highly talented son,

Waleed, succeeded him. In Waleed's reign the Arab rule was extended

to its farthest limits which included Spain and Southern France in

the West, Sind, Baluchistan and Southern Punjab in the East and

Transoxiana and Turkistan in the North. Three of the greatest Muslim

conquerors, namely, Tariq, Qasim and Qutaiba, swept away all

resistance encountered in these lands.

 

Waleed was born in 651 AC. He was brought up amidst the growing

luxury and aristocracy of the House of Umayyad. He had developed an

artistic taste from his childhood which led him to become the

greatest builder of the Umayyad dynasty that ruled in Damascus.

 

Hardly 54 at the time, he brought to his high office the aristocratic

outlook and religious fervour scarcely known among his predecessors.

 

Waleed's reign is known as the golden period of the Umayyad Caliphate

distinguished for its all round progress. He embarked upon an

unprecedented career of conquest in three directions which extended

the Arab rule to its widest limits. He established a wise and firm

administration which enabled him to devote himself to social and

public welfare works.

 

Waleed appointed his saintly cousin Umar bin Abdul Aziz, as Governor

of Hejaz. The new Governor set up a council of jurists and notables

of Madina, which was consulted on all administrative matters. He

beautified Makkah and Madina, rebuilt the Mosque of the Prophet,

improved roads and tried to erase signs of ravages committed in the

Holy cities during the time of earlier Umayyad rulers. His just and

generous administration in the Holy cities attracted many people who

were groaning under the tyrannical rule of Hajjaj bin Yusuf, the

Umayyad Viceroy of Iraq. The despot Hajjaj, who has become a legend

of tyranny in the history of Islam, was an exceptionally capable

Administrator who established firmly the Umayyad rule among the

fickle-minded Iraqis. He was annoyed by the migration of a large

number of Iraqis to Hejaz. At the instance of Hajjaj, Waleed removed

Umar bin Abdul Aziz from his post amidst universal mourning.

 

Waleed's fame rests on the marvellous Muslim victories which extended

the boundaries of the Umayyad Empire from the mountains of Pyrenees

in the West to the walls of China in the East and from Kashgar in the

North to the source of the Nile in the South.

 

The Modharite Chief Qutaiba bin Muslim Baheli who had been appointed

as the Deputy Governor of Khurasan was an able strategist and

General. He conquered Transoxiana and subjugated the whole of Central

Asia up to the confines of Kashgar. He captured the important cities

of Bukhara, Samarkand and Farghana.

 

The territories of Baluchistan, Sind and Southern Punjab were annexed

by the youngest General in history. Muhammad bin Qasim, who through a

glorious military campaign defeated the mightiest Indian ruler of the

time, Raja Dahir of Debal. Through a lightning march along the Indus

river valley he swept away all resistance encountered in the way and

in less than two years conquered the entire lower Indus valley up to

Multan. Muhammad bin Qasim annexed a major portion of Southern Punjab

and penetrated as far as the Beas. He set up a wise and benevolent

Administration in the conquered territory which endeared him equally

to Muslim and non-Muslim subjects.

 

Waleed's brother, Maslamab who was the Captain-General of Muslim

forces in Asia Minor, captured many important cities and annexed a

large part of Asia Minor.

 

But the greatest military campaign in Waleed's time was launched in

North-Western Africa and Spain-under the able leadership of Musa bin

Nusair, a Yemeni, and his able lieutenant Tariq bin Ziyad. Musa, son

of Nusair, was the Umayyad Viceroy of Africa. He put down the Berber

rebellion with a strong hand and pacified the entire North African

territory. The Muslim settlements were harassed by the Byzantines

from the Mediterranean. Musa, therefore, sent out expeditions, which

captured the islands of Majorca, Minorca and Ivica, which soon came

to flourish under the Muslim rule.

 

Whilst Africa was enjoying peace and prosperity under the benevolent

Muslim rule, Spain was groaning under the iron heels of the Goths.

The Gothic King, Roderick, a debauchee, had dishonoured his Governor

Julian's daughter, Florinda. The Governor invited Musa to liberate

Spain from Roderick. Musa despatched his lieutenant, Tariq, with a

small force for the purpose.

 

Tariq, son of Ziyad, an able lieutenant of Musa, landed on April 30,

711 AC. with his small force at the Rock which now bears his name. He

ordered his men to burn their boats and thus ended all hopes of their

return. A fierce battle was fought in September 711 A.C., on the

banks of the Guadalquivir, in which Roderick's heavy forces were

routed by the small Muslim force led by Tariq. Roderick was drowned

in the Guadalquivir.

 

The moral effect of this memorable victory was immense. City after

city of Gothic Spain threw open its gates to the Muslim Conqueror.

Tariq divided his small army into four divisions which advanced in

Spain in four directions. In June 712 A.C., Tariq was joined by Musa

and the two Muslim conquerors reached as far as the Pyrenees. Leaving

Tariq in Spain, Musa crossed into France and soon annexed a sizeable

portion of Southern France. Standing on the Pyrenees, the dauntless

Viceroy conceived the conquest of whole of Europe and in all human

probability he would have done so, had he not been recalled by

Waleed. The West completely lay at his feet. The cautious and

hesitant policy of the Umayyads deprived the Muslims of the glorious

opportunity of conquering Europe. As a result. Europe remained

enveloped in darkness for the next seven or eight centuries.

 

The recall of the two Muslim conquerors, Musa and Tariq, by Waleed,

was, no doubt, most disastrous to the cause of Islam in the West.

 

The conquest of Spain by Muslims ushered there an era of

unprecedented peace and prosperity which, in later years, gave birth

to a glorious Muslim civilization that ultimately dispelled the

darkness that had enveloped Mediaeval Europe.

 

Waleed is known as the greatest builder in Umayyad dynasty. He built

the Grand Mosque of Damascus, enlarged and beautified those of Madina

and Jerusalem. Under his direction mosques were built in every city.

He beautified the Capital city of Damascus with magnificent

buildings, luxuriant gardens and refreshing fountains. The city bore

broad roads lined with shady trees and aqueducts. He erected

fortresses for the protection of frontiers and constructed roads and

sank wells throughout the Empire. He established schools and

hospitals, built orphanages and houses for the poor. He stopped

promiscuous charity by granting allowances to the infirm and the poor

from the State Treasury. He created asylums for the blind, the

crippled and the insane where they were lodged and looked after by

attendants appointed by the State. He himself visited the markets and

noted the fluctuation in prices.

 

He was a great patron of art and learning; he granted pensions to

poets and savants, legists and Sufis. He was known for his generosity

and benevolence.

 

His reign is known for its peace and prosperity. He is distinguished

for giving the Arabian pattern to his Administration. He enjoyed

undisputed popularity throughout the world of Islam, especially in

Syria.

 

Waleed breathed his last on February 23, 715 A.C. at the age of 64

after a glorious reign of nine years and seven months.

[sayfulaah-almasluul]

hey conquest thansx for the correction although i do regard all umayad calipht as dictators with big EXCEPTION OF OMAR BINU ABDI AZIZ,HE WAS VERY HONEST AND DID JUSTICE IN MOSLIM UNLIKE HIS UMAYAS BEFORE HIM WHO AGRESSIVELY DEMOLISHID, KILLED,RAPE AND DICTATED THE MOSLIMS.

MY QUESTION ISN NOW THIS:

1 who was the leader of molism arms in battle of khybar?and what is word that prophet said about that leader?

2 when it happened?

3 and lastly what thing God prohibited from moslim to do in that days ?.

[Changed]

1 who was the leader of molism arms in battle of khybar?and what is word that prophet said about that leader?

answer: after the prophet(SAW) omar and abu bark (R A) got sick ALI (R A )took over the battle.the prophet called him the "lion of allah , asadu o' llah" i think am not sure

2 when it happened?

in 530 i hope . ali defeated them all in matter of days , i just loved hearing this story esp the part where ali defeats the big guy (mar hap was his name i think)

3 and lastly what thing God prohibited from moslim to do in that days ?.

ALLAH o aclam...me no know

 

my questio:

 

1: Name the last battle the prophet Muhammed scw?

[Qac Qaac]

lucky sister no u got it wrong.

 

conquest u got the answers right bro. and also thanks for defending me from sayfullah

 

sayfullah, bro becareful all the umayyad leaders were not all bad, Muwiyah the 2nd, was a buis person too, he only had the rule for 6 months. because he was so religious that he left the rule. so pls bro make sure u know ur stuff. don't be like so emotional like the muslims are shown on cnn. talking out of anger and look bad.