President rubishes the daydream of Shariff Xasan

[General Duke]

Madaxweynaha DFKS oo ka biyo diiday Go'aanadii Shariifka uu la tegay Wadanka Yaman

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Yemen:-Madaxweynaha DFKS Mudane C/laahi Yuusuf Axmed iyo Gudoomiyaha Baarlamaanka ee Soomaaliya Shariif Xasan Sh.Aadan ayaa fadhigoodii uu ku soo gabagaboobay magaalada Sanca ee dalka Yemen,kadib markii ay isku af-garan waayeen qodobo dhowra.

 

Labadan Masuul ayaa horay ugu kala fogaa go'aamada Siyaasadeed ee Dowlada Federaalka Soomaaliya kadib markii ay isku mari waayeen qodobo dhowra oo weli horyaala qaranka Soomaaliyeed.Horay ayaa waxaa isugu deyey in lagu dhex dhexaadiyo labadan masuul diblumaasiyiin shisheeye halkaas oo aan horay loogu gaarin wax natiijo ah.

 

Umada Soomaaliyeed badankeeda ayaa horay u aamin sanaa in gogosha ay fidisay dowlada Yemen aysan waxba kaga duwanaan doonin tii horay loogu dhigay Caasimada Nairobi ee dalka Kenya.

 

Madaxweyne C/laahi Yuusuf Axmed iyo Gudoomiyaha Baarlamaanka Soomaaliya Shariif Xasan Sh.Aadan ayaa is jiiray, kadib markii gudoomiyaha Baarlamaanku uu madasha shirka uu ku soo bandhigay riyo maalmeedkiisii ku aadanaa, inuu ka laabto Madaxweynuhu qodobadii horay ay u gaareen Baarlamaanka Soomaaliya qaybtii ku sugnayd Magaalada Nairobi,kaasoo lagu ansixiyey meelaha ay sii caga dhiganayso Dowlada Federaalka ee Soomaaliya,iyo Ciidamada Nabad ilaalineed ee la keenayo wadana Soomaaliya,Arrintaas ayuu madaxweynuhu uu ku tilmaamay inuusan awood u lahayn inuu dib u laalaabo arrimo qaran oo uu ansixiyey Baarlamaan Soomaaliyeed oo awoodiisa banaanka ka ah.

 

Si kastaba ha'ahaatee Go'aanka uu gaaray Madaxweynaha Federaalka ee Soomaaliya C/laahi Yuusuf Axmed ayaa waxay geesinimo gelinaysaa qaybaha kala duwan ee bulshada Soomaaliyeed iyo xubnaha labada gole ee taageersan qorshaha nabad ku soo dabaalida wadanka Soomaaliya.

 

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[General Duke]

WARAYSI:MADAXWAYNAHA SOOMAALIYA MUDANE C/LLAHI YUUSUF AXMED AYUU IDAMAALE MAANTA KHATKA TELEEFOONKA KU WARAYSTAY ISAGA OO KU SUGAN MAGAALADA SANCA EE DALKA YEMEN.

Posted by : webmaster on Friday, June 24, 2005 - 05:26 AM

 

 

WAXAA MAANTA INOO SUURA GASHAY IN AAN MADAXWAYNAHA SOOMAALIYA MUDANE C/LLAHI YUUSUF AXM,ED OO KU SUGAN MAGAALDA SANCA EE DALKA YEMEN KHATKA TELEFOONKA KU WARAYSANO.

 

 

IDAMAALE:MUDANE MADAXWAYNE BAHDA IDAMAALE AYAA KU SALAAMAYSA.

 

MADAXWAYNAHA: WAAN IDIN SALAAMAY IDAMAALE DHAMAANTIIN.

 

IDAMAALE: MUDANE MADAXWAYNE WAXAAD INOOGA WARANTAA WADA HADALADII IDIIN SOCDAY ADIGA IYO GUDOOMIYAHA BAARLAMAANKU MEESHA UU KU DANBEEYAY.

 

MADAXWAYNAHA: WADAHADALADII ANIGA IYO GUDOOMIYAHA BAARLAMAANKA INOO DHAXEEYAYA WAXA UU KU DHAMAADAY IN AANAN IS AFGARAN.

 

SABABTEEDANA WAXAA WEEYE, NIMANKA HOGAAMIYA KOOXEEDYADA AH EE MUQDISHO JOOGA IYO GUDOOMIYAHA BAARLAMAANKA AYAA HORAY UGU SOO BALAMAY IN AAN LA IS AFGARAN, OO WADA HADALKANI MIRA DHAL NOQON, TAASOO MICNAHEEDU YAHAY, WAA IN LA INOOYEELAA WAXA AANU DOONAYNO, HADEE ANAGA MASUULIYADA QARANKA NAGA SAARAN WAANU GUDANAYNAA ,QOF AANU KAGA HAYBAYSANAYNAANA MA JIRO, WAX LA YIRAAHDO AMAR KU TAAGLAYN.

 

IDAMAALE: MADAXWAYNE WAX MA INOOGA SHEEGI KARTAA WAX YAABAHA AAD ISKU MARI LA DIHIIN ADIGA IYO GUDOOMIYAHA BAARLAMAANKA.

 

MADAXWAYNAHA: WAXYAABAHA AAN ISKU MARI LA NAHAY NIMANKAAN WAXAA KA MIDA.

 

1- IN GOAANKII GOLAHA BAARLAMAANKU ANSIXIYAY 11/05/05, EE AHAA IN DOWLADU AY KU SHAQAYSO MAGAALADA JOWHAR IYO BAYDHABO AY KU SHAQEEYAAN OO U HOGAANSAMAAN INTA LAGA NABADAYNAYO MAGAALADA MUQDISHO, OO WAATAN DHAQAN GASHAY OO AY XUBNIHII LABADA GOLE AY KU WADA SHAQAYNAYAANE, AY HAWSHA WAX KA QAATAAN, OO GARAB GALAAN, DADAALKA AANU KU JIRNO.

 

2- IN SI WADA JIRA AY AFRIKAAN UNIONKU WAX UGA QABTAAN ARIMAHA NABAD KU SOO DABAALIDA EE SOOMAALIYA, SI SOOMAALIYA AY NOQOTO GOOB XASILOON.

 

3- IN AY JOOJIYAAN CARQALADA AY WADAAN IYO XAGAL DAACINTA AY MUQDISHA LA FARIISTEEN.

 

A- HADEE CID WALIBAA OG IN MAANTA MAGAALADA MUQDISHO ABNIGEEDU UUSAN WANAAGSANAYN, ILAA SADEX MAALUL OO HORAY LOOGA SAMEEYAYNA WAA AY KU FASHILMEEN, WAXA FASHILIYAYNA WAA MALEESHIYAADKA TIRADA BADAN EE NIN WALIBA UU MEEL KU OOTAY, WAXA AYNA DOONAYAAN NIMANKA MUQDISHO HAATAN JOOGA IN NINKII WALBA OO MAGAALADA YIMAADA OO DOONAYA IN UU MAAMUL KA HIRGALIYAA, IYAGA UGA DANBEEYO, TAASINA MA AHAN WAX AANU YEELI KARNAA OO INAGA SUUROOBA, HAATANA DFKG NIDAAMKII AY U DAJISAY NABADAYNTA MUQDISHO AYAA LA GUDA GALAY, OO WAATAN GUDOOMIYIHII GOBOLKA BANAADIR HOWSHIISII KA BILAABAY MAGAALADA MUQDISHO.

 

B- ARINKA KALE EE AH CIIDAMADA AFRIKA, WAXAA GOAAN KEEDA GAARAY AFRIKAN UNION, ANAGUNA WAANU ANSIXINAY.MAADAAMA DALKU UUSAN LAHAYN WAX CIIDAN QARAN AH, INTA CIIDAN QARAN AANU SAMAYSANAYNO WAANU U BAAHANAHAY CIIDAN NAGA CAAWIYA TABABARKA CIIDAMA SOOMAALIYEED,WAXAANU KU KHASBANAHAY IN AANU OGOLAANO CIDII NALOO SOO DIRO,CIDII OAU NOO SOO DIRAYSO ANAGU SHAQO KUMA LIHIN.

 

IDAMAALE: MUDANE MADAXWAYNE MAXAY TAHAY WAXA IDIIN QORSHAYSAN MAR HADAAD KA HISHIIN WAYDEEN KHILAAFAADKII IDIN DHEXYAALAY?.

 

MADAXWAYNAHA: HORTA WAXAAN KUU SHEEGAYAA, WAX WALBA OO NIMANKAAN LAGU QANCIN KARO WAANU KULA HADLNAY, HADII GUDOOMIYAHA BAARLAMAANKU UU MADAXBANAANYAHAY,OO YAHAY NIN HOWSHIISA YAQAAN, WAA HORE AYAY WAX WALIBA DHAMAN LAHAAYEEN, OO AANU XALIN LAHAYN WAX WALBA OO KHILAAFA, MANA IIGU MUUQATO ANIGA IN AY NIMANKAANI DOONAYAA WAX DOWLADNIMA AH.DHINACA KALE, WAXAA INAGA NOO QORSHAYSAN, HOWSHA BAAXADA LEH EE NA HORTAALA IN AANU GUDA GALNAA, OO QARANIMADII SOOMAALIYEED SOO CELINTIISA AANU KA SHAQAYNAA, WAA IN AANU GUDA GALNAA QORIDA CIIDAMO DALKU UU LEEYAHAY, SI WAKHTI AAD U DHOW AANU UGA KAAFTOONO BAAHIDA AANU U QABNO CIIDAMO SHISHEEYE.

 

IDAMAALE:MUDANE MADAXWAYNE GOORMAAD DALKA DIB UGU SOO LAABANAYSAA?.XAGEESE KUU QORSHAYSAN IN AAD DALKA KA TAGTO?.

 

MADAXWAYNAHA: ANIGU ILAA BARI WIXII KA DANBEEYA DALKA AYAAN DIB UGU SOO LAABANAYAA, DHAMAAN GOBOLADA DALKU UU LEEYAHAY INTIISA BADAN WAXAA II QORSHAYSAN IN AAN ISU MARAA.

 

KAASUNA WAXA UU AHAA MADAXWAYNAHA SOOMAALIYA MUDANE C/LLAHI YUSUF AXMED OO AANU KHATKA TELEFOONKA KU WARAYSANAY MAANTA ISAGA OO JOOGA DALKA YEMEN.

 

IDAMAAE NEWS

[Jumatatu]

Somali leaders fail to resolve differences

MODAGISHU, Somalia (AP) -- Somalia's president and parliamentary speaker have ended talks in Yemen without resolving differences that have split the transitional government as it struggles to set up operations after returning home from exile, an official said Friday.

 

Somali President Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed and parliament speaker Sharif Hassan Sheikh Aden failed to agree on where the government should be based, Deputy Prime Minister Mohamud Abdullahi Jama said.

 

The president wants government to set up in the southern Somali town of Jowhar, about 60 miles (97 kilometers) northwest of the capital, saying Mogadishu is unsafe. The speaker, however, insists they should be in the capital as provided in the transitional constitution, Jama said.

The parliament is expected to meet in Mogadishu on Saturday for its first session in the country since the government was set up, Jama said, even though the president recently declared the legislature in recess for two months.

 

The leaders also failed to agree on the presence of troops from neighboring countries, including Ethiopia, in a regional force that would be sent to secure the government and key installations, help disarm thousands of militia fighters and train security forces, Jama said.

The president supports troops from neighboring countries. Powerful warlords-turned-cabinet ministers who control Mogadishu and other legislators disagree.

 

"There are other issues, including the violation of the charter and a pattern of appointment and decision-making that are unilateral, that is on the part of the president and prime minister, that are not consistent with the spirit of reconciliation," Jama said .

 

A Yemeni Foreign Ministry official said the Somali parliament speaker left Yemen after five days of negotiations with the president.

 

"Despite Yemeni mediation, the two parties failed to reach an agreement," the official said on customary condition of anonymity.

 

Somalia has not had an effective central government since clan-based warlords overthrew dictator Mohamed Siad Barre in 1991. Warlords then turned on each other, plunging the country of 7 million into chaos.

 

The transitional government has been based in the Kenyan capital Nairobi since it was set up last year because Mogadishu is too insecure.

 

Somalia's Prime Minister Ali Mohamed Gedi, lawmakers and members of his Cabinet returned home on Saturday, setting up operations in Jowhar. The president, though, has yet to return home.

[General Duke]

Its good that the President did not budge. Sharif Xasan is nohing the problem eminates from the warlords in Xamar so what ever agreement or deal he Shariff signs up to will mean little. Now its the time to move forward. The PM and cabinet need to stick to their position and govern. No more talks and mediations just implementation of programms.

 

Viva Somalia

[Jumatatu]

Wadahadaladii Somalia ee Yemen oo burburay

 

Gudoomiyaha Baarlamaanka Shariif Xassan

 

 

Wada hadalladii u dhexeeyay madaxweynaha iyo guddoomiyaha baarlamanka dhowrkii maalmood ee ugu dambeeyay uga socday dalka Yemen, ayaa waxay u muuqdaan in aysan waxba ka gaarin khilaafkii dhexdooda ahaa.

Labada nin waxay hadda ku kala laabanayaan saldhigyadoodii ee dalka Soomaaliya iyagoo aan wax hadal ah fagaare ka sheegin.

 

Laakiin ma jirto wax calaamad ah oo muujinaya in ay heshiis ka gaareen arrimaha ay ku kala qaybsan yihiin iyaga iyo taageerayaashooduba.

 

Madaxweyne Cabdullaahi Yuusuf waxaa uu sheegayaa in ay aad khatar u tahay in dowladda ku meel gaarka ah la geeyo magaalada caasimadda ah ee Muqdisho, ilaa uu ka helayo ciidammo nabad ilaalineed oo shisheeye ah oo dowladdiisa taageera.

 

Guddoomiyaha baarlamanka iyo xulafadiisuna, oo badankoodu ah wasiirro iyo hoggaamiyeyaal maleeshooyin aad u hubaysan, ayaa waxay gaashaanka ku dhufteen fikradda ah, in dalka lagu sameeyo fara gelin milateri oo la keeno ciidammo ka socda waddammada deriska ah.

 

Xulafada guddoomiyaha baarlamanku waxay qorsheynayaan in ay qabtaan kulan baarlamaan oo ka dhaca magaalada Muqdisho toddobaadka soo socda gudihiisa.

 

Haddii ay kulankaasi ka soo qayb galaan kala bar xubnaha baarlamanka Soomaaliya oo guud ahaan ka kooban 275 mudane, waxaa laga yaabaa in ay codka kalsooni darrada u qaadaan madaxweynaha.

 

Madaxweynaha laf ahaantiisu waxaa uu isku deyayaa inuu magaalada Jowhar ka sameeyo baarlaman, taas oo qiyaastii 100 KM Woqooyi ka xigta magaalada Muqdisho.

 

Iyadoo ay masaafadda intaas oo keliya isu jirta ay kala joogaan labo kooxood oo wada hubaysan oo iska soo horjeeda.

 

Waxaa jirta khatar soo kordhaysa oo ku saabsan in dalka Somalia uu mar kale dib ugu noqon karo dagaal kale oo buuxa oo faraha looga gubto.

[OLOL]

Yeey is another warlord and worst of all, he is a clan minded misleader and Ethiopian stooge. He is surrounded by a circle of clannish charlatans from his immediate family who have this whimsy unreality that they (clan XYZ) are privileged to lead Somali people.they regretablly have mediocre plot to start some sort of conflict among the Mogadishu populace in order to have their desired hegemonic despotism come to fruition. when will these primitive imbeciles learn that times have changed and somali people are more savvy and progressivly have reached a political maturity. it is still them who are caught behind the clan animosities of yester years and it seems all the members of the clique ( including the Cheerleaders and Dukes) still whole heartedly believe this fatalistic fantasy of clan supremacy.

 

It was "Habeeb" an MP and minister in the Ghedi's TFG inflated cabinet who put this clan presidential ownership on the spotlight in a very diplomatic and unprovoking way, while addressing Minnesota audiance last week.

 

We should get rid of this ailing octogenarian as soon as possible and his ineffective boy toy. they are not even free to pursue their agendas without the blessing of MELES ZENAWI. Yeey's suggestion to be consulted with his Tigre boss before he could compromise even taken aback the Yemeni president, Salah, who had to ring Addis to lend a hand of the botched attempt to reconcile these warring Somali loonies. The speaker has shown in a very dignified manner that he will not become a sell out and would stand for his patriotic principles no matter. he left San'aa with a victory and a conviction that the Tigre clique are just reactionary minions that could be igonored and put aside for the moment. let yeey rot in his exile adventurism.

 

Once again, the task ahead is to continue the efforts of bringing some of the North Mogadishu big heads into the patriotic fold and to pressure the warlords to continue their dismantling of the roadblocks.

 

we could pacify Mogadishu and make it gun-free and militia-proof within a month.

 

We already have the quorum in Mogadishu; the speaker of the parliament should convene an extraordinary session to oust him. Yeey has no influence beyond Garoowe. The United States of America and The European Union government only recognize a government functioning in Mogadishu. They do aggressively oppose the foreign troops notion and the Ethiopian meddling of the Somali peace process.

[xiinfaniin]

What a difference a few weeks time makes; I thought you were in celebratory mood yesterday or was it a youthful triumphant? It now seems that the political festivity of the likes of OLOL has easily vanished.

[OLOL]

Xiin, just to educate you more on the camp that supports the Shariif are from all walks of life and don't have any hidden clan agendas unlikr yeeys cheerleaders who are as porven all from his clansmen.

 

The supporters of the speaker consist of intellectuals (mostly in the Diaspora), The business community in Dubai and Mogadishu ( close to dozens of influential Somali millionaires have already pledged a large sum of money to cover all parliamentarians' expenses and salary while in Mogadishu).

 

their aim is not to score some political goals or outmanouver the other camp(Melse Stooges). That is the last thing in their mind. Their main target is to restore somali people's hopes, reconcile them and to oppose the ethiopian policy of creating clan fiefdoms in Somalia.

 

We have been patient with this long stalmate and we knew the whole Embagathi conference was a sham and another false start but we just want to work around things.

We can't have peace until we have the likes of warlords Yeey and others Ethiopian stooges. We need to get rid of them by any means necessary and we are working on that.

 

Just watch out as things progress in this critical juncture. then, we will find out who will be in festive mood.

[wind.talker]

Originally posted by OLOL:

 

...the camp that supports the Shariif are from all walks of life and don't have any hidden clan agendas unlikr yeeys cheerleaders who are as porven all from his clansmen.

That's so cute! Sharif Hassan - an MP elected from Bay and Bakool regions - has YET to set foot on the region from which he supposedly represents. On the other hand, Col Yeey landed in Baydhabo and was welcomed. He also landed in Jowhar and drove on to Beledweyne. Fact or fiction?

 

Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but the President's "clansmen" don't traditionally live in Baydhabo, Jowhar and Beledweyne, do they? :confused: Do you honestly want us - a group of adults - to believe that everyone that welcomed Col Yeey in Baydhabo, Jowhar and Beledweyne is a member of his clan? You insult our intelligence with such baseless claims. Yet, I can sit here and tell you that the Sharif whom you hold so dear hasn't even gone to Baydhabo yet - which has become more unstable than Mogadishu of late.

 

Just like your idols (war/druglords), you lack the vision to see a world beyond today's. You celebrate every little action Indhocade or Mogadishu's warlords take - yet, you forget that they have YET to do anything out of their own initiative. This so-called Mogadishu Stabalization Plan - why didn't it take place out of the warlord's own initiative, instead of fear that Col Yeey will bring foreign troops to Mogadishu? These men you wholeheartedly support (Mogadishu war/druglords) don't want to resolve anything in Mogadishu - after weeks of storing up militias, Cismaan Caato says on the BBC that the whole remove the roadblocks campaign was wrong from the beginning. What gives? The only people who are genuine about any chance of peace in Mogadishu are civil society - whose actions speak louder than words. They genuinely contribute their meager resources in the hope that lasting and permanent peace will soon envelop Mogadishu. But these war/druglords are all talk - and Sharif is turning out to be nothing but a puppet. If he was real, he would've forced the war/druglords to remove all roadblocks - step 1 in restoring order back on the street of the Capital.

 

And the whole Col Yeey and his cousins are bringing clan hegemony to southern Somalia train - LOL! You suffer from a terrible case of low-esteem, me thinks.

[OLOL]

being emotionally subjective is another confessed forte for the humbugs that worship Yeey and follow his clannish creed.

 

let me re-think! isn't Indha-Cadde the governor of lower Shabeele? what he has to do with the capital.? or he is the shot caller in the Bay/Bakool region ? I remember now...he is the one who backed Xaabsade and prevented the SRRC retards conquering Baidoa for yeey? or is he the one who defeated Morgan and convinced him to give up his unrealizable pursuit of ever taking back Chismaio? what a let down!! Indha- Cadde is the man in the mirror now!! he must be the so called bogeyman of yeey's cheerleaders! or is it the BBC garaad you have beef with now? or A/Qasim? or Mogdishu residents? or Burco? or is it riyaale? damn the Snm mujaahidiin are going to attack us?

 

yeey's plan failed and did not materialize, so let us blame everyone!! good escapist tactic!! loving such a desperation!

 

What is the difference between Indha-Cadde and Mohammed Dheere? both are governors who are on the opposing side? right? one is allied with yeey now and then, the other is solid in his contempt for the warlords of Bari?

 

 

what is the difference between Yeey and Sudi? sudi's prophecy is now being fullfilled?

 

sorry, i can't understand why we are distinguishing warlords and favoring one from the other! this is so damn puzzling! i don't think so? I am really entitled to be jesting and to be sarcastic sometimes, it is fun to abuse retards and dispell myths....

 

 

isn't this a government of the warlords, for the worlords, by the warlords, .....or ...yeey has suddenly became an honorable statesman with a nation building vision and mission?

 

amazing!!! As Sudi said " the shoes don't fit" so must n't we acquit yeey ? yeah his demise is imminent .... i guess there is no one to blame here other than his defeatist policy ! now the ball is on the Meles court! let see what he is cooking!

 

whether you like it or not, the warlords in the capital command a great influence. without them, nothing will work. Ethiopia cannot force people to become loyal subjects of another dictator/warlord......

 

 

Yeey is done and gone! who is next?

 

ha la is daba dhaboolaqo dhugtaa ha ina moodo inaan dhulka dalxiis ku nahay!

[Xoogsade]

The reality is, A/Y has become for some the Eyes with which they see, the ears with which they hear, the hearts and minds with which they decide about everything. In such mindless drive and spirit, they have stepped out of their islamic decor and assail every Xawo and Adam who has disagreements with A/Y's . Every comment such supporters of his write, every political discussion they partake in, every effort they make is calibrated to make A/Y a vaunted leader who deserves the reverence of others. There is no freedom of conscious opposition to any wrong politics A/Y wants. Simply, there can be no discussion. An opposition is either a scrap merchant or the son of him, or a home robber who wants to keep his loot. I mean, does it get any more silly and childish than that??!

 

A/Y was given a chance to make things better, he squandered it as things stand. The process is on going still, and the end could be different altogether. Before the soon-to-come final goodbye to his excellency or a miraculous turn-around on his part(and getting smart all of a sudden for some out of this world reason) comes around, sing your songs of veiled yet obvious, slanted yet portrayed as balanced drama that no one believes except you. May I add that I don't buy anything you say so you can keep your comments and make me the last man who talked? THANK YOU.

[wind.talker]

Originally posted by OLOL:

yeah his demise is imminent ...

And...

 

Originally posted by Xoogsade:

Before the soon-to-come final goodbye to his excellency...

SXB-yaal, let me tell you a couple of things. Stalin, Idi Amin, Mobutu, Siyad Barre - all dictators, yes? The people they oppressed cursed (habaar) them on a daily basis, yet they stayed in power for decades. Cursing (habaar) Col Yeey won't change his fate, for it has already been pre-destined by Allah SWT.

 

Now, OLOL -

 

Indhocade, Col Yeey, Yalaxow-Calasow, Max'd Dheere etc. - they're all warlords. They can hold fancy titles such as 'president' and 'governor', but the fact remains that they're men who came to power through war. Matter of fact, compared to Mogadishu's warlords, I have more respect for Indhocade for bringing peace and a regional admin for Shabellaha Hoose region.

 

But, you didn't answer any of my fundamental questions. Were the people who welcomed Col Yeey/PM Ghedi in Baydhabo, Jowhar and Beledweyne the President's "clansmen" - as you want us to believe? Secondly, where are the cheering crowds welcoming Sharif Hassan in Baydhabo - but the guy didn't even go there.

 

Let's stick to reality. Mogadishu's warlords don't want anything to change - they went against Ali Mahdi, Cabdiqasim and now Col Yeey. Which means you don't want anything to change - you can mask your views as a patriot, but as long as you're on the side of Mogadishu's war/druglords who have yet to even remove roadblocks, then you're simply against the prospect of change: Ethiopia is coming - but where is Ethiopia? We'll remove roadblocks - yet, roadblocks on the Afgoye-to-Mogadishu road have increased (among others).

 

These are the concrete evidence I'm working with. You're working with hearsay about Reer Bari's planned hegemony over Somali politics. And for believing such, you're just showing your weakness at heart. Horaan u iri: niyadaad ka wada dhimateen.

 

This was funny:

 

or is he the one who defeated Morgan and convinced him to give up his unrealizable pursuit of ever taking back

Chismaio?

Chismaio? I know you became a Somali through some measure of affirmative action, so I'll let it slide. But, for the record, its Kismaayo. And yes, the mighty governor of Shabellaha Hoose defeated Gen Morgan in war - in essence, he defeated the whole of Puntland and showed the them his military prowess. I suppose it should be called the Aideed Doctrine - attack first, occupy, loot then ask questions. But that doctrine failed in Galkacyo, in Gedo and repeatedly in Kismaayo in the '90s. The RRA's internal weakness allowed such an aggresive doctrine to succeed in Baydhabo. You think Indhocade will continue to have success with a doctrine whose own namesake repeatedly failed to fulfill? I'll let you decide.

[Xoogsade]

Actually, the "imminent goodbye" comment has nothing to do with death-wish but more like the imminent self-inflicting final blows coming to whatever chances he has left. He might even lose the power to bring a dozen conniving men to a table for a meeting if he continues in the current pace of screw-ups.

 

Besides, why wish death on A/Y when he has neither influence nor the capability to do anything to anyone on his own? The men you named actually presided over established institutions and societies that didn't distrust each other as profoundly as somalis do today. Their chances of staying in power was solid unlike A/Y who is just a man trying to find his footing. The basic fact about Somalia today is that people are paranoid about letting anyone else have unquestionable power over them. Each community secluded itslef and won't let anyone from outside their domain dictate over them. And if they have such person in a powerful position, they have the controls over him and he can do nothing they don't like. To pacify the unmalleable society, to make such paranoid people trust you, surely, it WAS really silly to talk about a war or anything that smells of it. A/Y made irreversible miscalculations. He thought just because he was elected, he could say and do whatever he wanted. It escaped him that the road to stability was fraught with dangers. No sooner than he was named president, he started alienating everyone, the same people who could have helped him isolate whoever would oppose the government. He drew the lines and he has paid for it. Presiding over a devided government that won't come together since each group will stick to their line including him is actually not what he expected. But I am sure it doesn't bother him a bit. He doesn't act as bothered and comes off as indifferent about what is going on.

 

Bottom line, What are his chances of succeeding in bringing people together and become what people hoped he would be? Can he win against the odds he created for himself? No one is going to raise a finger on his behalf for sure and fight a war to kill a relative. People been there done that. What is left is the current saga of political confusion. As long as A/Y and the men opposing him wage their wars on the airwaves, they are welcome. Let them fight. With the exception of A/Y supporters, every Somali thinks of him as another warlord, So the majority don't understand why he shouldn't get along with his peers and co-horts in crime. Inuu sasabtaa la rabey instead of raising the stakes and talking about BS. Instead of emboldening them and offending many, he should have cajoled them into being his stooges. They surely would have been happy to serve him and be his underdogs to rob what is left of Somalis anyway.

[General Duke]

Same old arguments. Shariff isgreat, why is he so great he is illeterate and stands for nothing other than being the mouth piece of Qaynyare.

 

President Yusuf is bad, why is he so bad, because you dont like his clan, simple. You Xoogsade and Olol defend Mogadishu as if its the home of the right and insult everyone else as if they are wrong. Jowhar is bad, Beledweyne is bad, Baydoa is not even in Somalia. Forget about that dusty Bossaso. Mogadishu might have some ooops few looteed houses, a souple of roadblocks but its nice. Rubish and utter nonsence. The issue has been how we can get ourselves out of this mess. By following Shariff, a man with no clue or a President from the North East a PM from banadir and a cabinet with an equil clan representation?

I would go for the latter.

 

You have failed on the Ethiopea, on the clan card and on presenting an alternative to Yey/Geedi. You whole heartedly support the case of looters, then talk about Amxaro. Come on lads the game has just begun.

[Xoogsade]

An alternative to Yeey? he can change his policies a bit to accomodate others I suppose, that is all required for things to work FOR HIM. I think the complaints against him are legitimate, the concerns are valid, and if people have a stake in this government as you sell it to be, then people better be on his case or on anyone's case they differ rightly, and they will be doing that without asking the opinion of those who are concerned with their own end of the game. Isn't it a selfish world out there in Somalia? And if you let another somali dictate to you without checks that you are lost? Ma nin soomali ah oo caddaalad yaqaanaa aragtey hadduusan kaa cabsanin? Even if the warlords were out of the equation, still people would be confronting A/Y if he wants to have the final say of everything. Such scenario of a man wielding unquestionable power is not palatable, that is made history which people hope never to come back again. Perhaps A/Y and his blind supporters should wake up to that reality and smell the coffee.

 

Btw, DUKE, Can you appreciate yourself in others(your copies) and be more realistic? be in tune with their warped mentality that is yours? Can you accept islam as the sole redeemer of the confusion? if not, Can you accept that people have the right to be YOU exactly in mentality and bargain whatever it takes for their own end? Bal adiga marka hore is fahan si aa u fahamto dadka kale waxa ka qaldan.

 

Besides, So far, I haven't said anything about A/Y's clan. I am actually quarter this tribe quarter that tribe, half this tribe and half that tribe. Can't say definitively I am a particular tribe, and for once, I am not emotionally connected to any tribe, the same individualistic mentality I was raised with, is the same mentality I still carry. Secondly, I don't like TRIBALISTS and will tell them what I think of them. If that makes me a tribalist or a hater of another tribe, so be it Saxib. I don't really care. I have no respect for tribalists and don't trust them.