Mortars kill civilians again..Misfire from cowards..

[Ana_Juwa2]

Dont be so shocked, this is your fellow somali, a self proclaimed Nationalist, yet your views and positions are as diverging as they can be. Instead of the curse, ask yourself sincerely why somali's are in this state of mind?

[N.O.R.F]

Duke

 

Another hear no evil see no evil act you and your buddies are conducting here.

 

ps the 'president' hides to go to the capital?

 

i thought it was tamed and is in the control of the TFG troops iyo galaaday sookaxeesteen is that not what you keep repeating?

[Che -Guevara]

Originally posted by General Duke:

^^^Che, the TFG has presented a clear plan, full disarmamanet, peace, return of private property and reconciliation amongst Somali clans.

 

This TFG has built admins led by locals for every region in Somalia, it envisages a federal system which gives priority to local concerns.

 

All the clans of Mogadishu have been briefed many times and that is why the security crackdown has taken so long, because it is being adapted to their needs and wants.

Saaxib....That maybe so, but in my humble the TFG hasn't presented any plan with clear objectives and stated goals.

 

The disarment issue clearly shows their lack of plan. They have come up with diffirent plans starting with three day operation followed by the handover of arms by the warlords (which is only tangible success we could point to).They made farther blunders by airing Reer Xamar would be forcibly disarmed-a very unwise pronouncement by a goverment that has hardly any support from the Mogidisho populace.

 

There is also level of incompatency inherent in this goverment. Who is actually responsible in informing the public about the goverment's plans as diffirent ministers and their deputies as well as goverment spokespersons continue talking about goverment's stated goals without divulging into detials as what this means for the people of Xamar.

 

And what do the new administrations in the rest of the country have actually done so far?. Hardly, anyone hears about the state of these new administrations. The only thing that makes to the news is the disagreement in regards to how the administrations were set up between the competing clans in the Jubba, Galgaduud, and elsewhere. Are these administration actually functional?

 

And then there is issue of the Ethio presence.Just how long are they going to be in Somalia. And could one expect a viable Somali goverment as long as you have Ethio guns protecting it from its citizens as is in the case in our capital?

 

This goverment has alot plans, but hardly did anything. People are only as good as their actions Duke. And with little to show for, this so called goverment is running of steam and out of ideas.

[General Duke]

^^^You can not say the TFG has presented no plans and then in the same sentence say they presented a number of different plans. That makes no sense saxib. The TFG has made changes in accordance with the wishes of the community.

 

The three day plans was changed when the clans complained that the "trouble makers" in the guise of the courts had left and that they would volunterily bring their weapons in.

 

Then the mortars started and the killings increased, the TFG has given a grace time to the clans who have been unable to control the mayhem and their "boys".

 

Now the plan is to secure Mogadishu by any means including force by targeting the trouble makers and their hideouts.

 

There has been enough information gathered and the troops have completed their training.

 

The TFG has been patient it has met all the clans, all the business groups and even the clan courts media outlets. However the mortars and assasinations continue, for just like in Baidoa ignorant people see patience as a weakness.

 

Now will you complain when force is used?

[General Duke]

^^^You can not say the TFG has presented no plans and then in the same sentence say they presented a number of different plans. That makes no sense saxib. The TFG has made changes in accordance with the wishes of the community.

 

The three day plans was changed when the clans complained that the "trouble makers" in the guise of the courts had left and that they would volunterily bring their weapons in.

 

Then the mortars started and the killings increased, the TFG has given a grace time to the clans who have been unable to control the mayhem and their "boys".

 

Now the plan is to secure Mogadishu by any means including force by targeting the trouble makers and their hideouts.

 

There has been enough information gathered and the troops have completed their training.

 

The TFG has been patient it has met all the clans, all the business groups and even the clan courts media outlets. However the mortars and assasinations continue, for just like in Baidoa ignorant people see patience as a weakness.

 

Now will you complain when force is used?

[Ahmed_Guree]

Duke you need to get a pay rise for your unwavered support for the Clan Govt

seems you work tirelessly day and night propagating the Clan Govt

 

I can say you can beat Idamaale only if you translate your work to Af-Somaali for bigger audience :cool:

[General Duke]

^^^Less about me and back to the story dear lad.

The "opposition" inside and out seems to be running into a brick wall.

 

Still the BBC/Somali section is fighting, keeping the masses confused.

[Ahmed_Guree]

Duke since you leave in a world of dillussions why dont you just cast aside the story and Fabricate it as 'Fire crackers leads to pendamonium'

coz the more you mention of the problem the more their is a case.

where there is smoke theres fire.

[Che -Guevara]

Duke....Don't take the words out of context. There is diffirence between announcing plans, and actually going through with the them. Sure, diffirent characters have alluded to the goverment plans, but hardly any action is taken exception being the warlords handing the weapons. The TFG plans are of little consequence to anybody. This nullifies everything. Now when are going up with something that's actually tangible?

 

P.S. The use of brute force with no political solution in mind isn't going to solve anything. It just harden people's veiws.

[Alle-ubaahne]

Originally posted by Che-Guevara:

 

P.S. The use of brute force with no political solution in mind isn't going to solve anything. It just harden people's veiws.

So its right to stick with the use of brute force while placing in a political solution! Interesting indeed. I thought you were for the oppossite, making deceptional political solutions and then using force to passify the Mog. populations!

 

Cajiib, I can hardly distinguish the differences between you and your cousin, Duke!

 

May be a difference of means not objectives, I guess!

[Che -Guevara]

^^^Yup we are all in this together. It is conspiracy I tell you.

[General Duke]

^^^LOL.

I do get what you mean, but when all the clans are on board a few dead enders to borrow a phrase will not stop us all.

[Xargaga]

I came across this gabay at hiiraan online and it will move any who understand

 

 

 

Caynka gabay Cibaarow adaa caalim ku ahaaye

 

Cisihii Rasuulkiyo adaan sunnihii caasiyine

 

Calankeenna daafaca adaa cod ula taagnaaye

 

Caawimaadda ehelkuna aday kugu cuslaanayne

 

Curiskaaga yaa laga gartaa caaqilkaad tahaye

 

Cimrigiisu raagyow runtaan kuu cabbirayaye

 

Cabashadeyda saakana bal maqal Caalimkaa weyne

 

 

 

Casiiskii na uumiyo markaan diinta ku ciyaarnay

 

Ku ceebownay ciiddaan lahayn caalamkoo idile

 

Carruurtiina nala yaabtay iyo caaqa liitaaye

 

Caadiyo waxaan dhaqan laheyn camal karaameysan

 

Cayayaan waxay nagu tirshaan aan cindi lahayne

 

Ciilkaan la seexdaan walaal kuu cabbirayaaye

 

Cabashadeyda saakana bal maqal Caadilkaa weyne

 

 

 

Cafiskiyo qoomkii nabadda naca oo is ceyrteeya

 

Oo ceesh qabyaaladi u tahay cudurna maalaaya

 

Markey kala caroodaan dadoo cidiba meel aaddo

 

Cadowgii nimuu ciidanshaan caymo filaneyne

 

Qalbicamo markii loo xuliyo kuwo ciyaal suuqa

 

Oo caalimiintii la naco jaahilna caweeyo

 

Caku kama dhamaatiyo inuu galo calolyowe

 

Annagana canaasiir ayaa noo cimaamadane

 

Calaf waxay u haystaan wixii gala calooshoode

 

Cosobkii dhulkeeniyo dalkii siiste caanteyne

 

Cawaannimo halkey gaartay baan la cajabaayaayoo

 

Ciilkaan la sexdaan walaal kuu cabbirayaaye

 

Cabashadeyda saakana bal maqal Caalimkaa weyne.

 

 

 

Ciil looma go’ Maxamedow ceeb adduunyada’e

 

Soomaali caawa sidey tihiyo caatadaa muuqan

 

Nimankii colaad waarta iyo iyo cudurka beeraayay

 

Nimankii cududdii aan lahayn cadcad u googooyay

 

Raggii ceynwareejiyay talada samana ciideeyay

 

Culimaa’uddiinkiyo kuwii caaqillada iibshay

 

Colaadaha kuwii huriyayee gooyay ciribteenna

 

Caadaqaatayaashiyo kuwii cunayay jiirkeenna

 

Nimankii cidihii soomanaa casar duqeynaayay

 

Nimankii carqaladeynta iyo dhibka ku ceeshaayay

 

Cilladihii dhexdeenniyo kuwii keenay caalwaagu

 

Haddey maanta casumeen Tigree waan cajabayaaye

 

Ciilkaan la sexdaan walaal kuu cabirayaaye

 

Cabashadeyda saakana bal maqal Caalimkaa weyne.

 

 

 

Itoobiya col baan abid aheyn taniyo coorcoore

 

Ceyriinka nimankii baroo ceyrsadaan nahaye

 

Maantana haddaan cudud la siin caalamna u hiillin

 

Cashar kale inaan siin lahayn waa wax caadiyahe

 

Marka ciidan is horjoogsadee taangi la cabbaysto

 

iga celiya wow caado oo kama cabsoodaane

 

Cadow soo gurmanayaa hadduu cirka ka soo duulay

 

Oo uu carshaantii gubiyo xoolo cows daaqa

 

Carradeenna uu xoog ku yimid lana cambaareynin

 

Haddii dulmigii loo ciidanshoo xaqii la ciideeyay

 

Caaq bey la tahay guul iney cadowgu gaareene

 

Waa cowradii dunida oy calal ka feydeene

 

Ciilkaan la sexdaan walaal kuu cabirayaaye

 

Cabashadeyda saakana bal maqal Caalimkaa weyne.

 

 

 

Nin caqligii calool uu ka galay waa caddilanyahaye

 

Cawaantaa la soo waalayee calawasaadeysa

 

Caaqibadey la kulmayaan ciribxumaanteeda

 

Caalim kii ahaa wari ninyahow caamo yeelkeede

 

Musafeni cantuuguu rabaa cunaha naafeyne

 

Caddaaladda hadduu jecelyahoo cahdi uu dhowraayo

 

Cagafcagaf ma mariyeen dhallaan waayay caanihiye

 

Coomaadi kuma soo kacsheen wiilal caaridaye

 

Cirroolihii ma wada layn lahayn cunugyow jog yiriye

 

Intii dumar curyaan noqotayoo hooyo la ciqaabay

 

Cisbitaal intuu gubay ayaan cidina moogeyne

 

Caydhteeyay shacabkiisiyoo cunto ma haystaane

 

Caynkii Koongo hadduu naga rabiyo inaan casnhuur dhiibno

 

Oo uu dhulkaa wada camiran qeyb calaameytay

 

Ceego wow danbeyn idam-Ilaah iney cabaadaane

 

Anoon cagajugleyneyn runtaan sii cabbirayaaye

 

Cabiidnimo ninkii nala rabow taladii kaa ciirtay

 

 

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Cabdikhayr Sheikh Xassan Sh. Soofe

E-mail: soofe@hotmail.com