baalcade Posted December 25, 2007 Rebuttal of Clanish Wailers Africa, Unite 'Cause we're moving right out of Babylon and we're going to our father's land How good and how pleasant it would be Before God and man, yeah to see the unification of all Africans, yeah Bob-Marley and the Wailers The word Wailer means "a mourner who utters long loud high-pitched cries". Today, in Somalia, we should all be wailers; not only the few individuals listed in the article that carries the misleading title " Clannish Wailers ". We should all be Wailers, not the Wailers of Bob-Marley, because: 1. Those of us who write in these forums and talk about the issues of Somalia are refugees in foreign lands. Most of us have not visited our country for the last 17 years. Most of us have no intention of ever going back there. Most of us are on welfare while many of us work in jobs that pay the minimum wage. A large number of our PhD holders drive taxis in dangerous neighborhoods in the West. 2. Our kids speak all the languages of the world but are unable to speak their mother tongue. Many of them languish in jails as a result of broken families supported mostly by single mothers. 3. Most of our folks back home live on meager remittances they receive from overseas supplemented by meager incomes earned by women who toil all day under the burning sun unable to drink water to avoid the call of nature and as a result suffer from all kinds of urinary tract infections. 4. Most of our people are addicts of a drug called Qat that drains our country of millions of dollars needed to rebuild and rehabilitate. These millions pour into the coffers of our enemy, 5. Our passport is a worthless piece of paper that prompts most of us to travel with foreign passports that are met with raised eyebrows at every airport we use. 6. We have become the laughing-stock of the whole world, and those who do not despise us pity us. 7. We watch the news indifferently when it carries the now too-familiar pictures of women and children who drown daily in the high seas fleeing from all parts of Somalia including Somaliland that is painted by some of us as a paradise on earth. 8. We are ruled by an enemy who wants to divide our country into pieces. Some of us welcome him with open arms, open trade offices for him and offer him our ports to import his goods. Some of us die with him in the same trenches killing our own people. Some of us exploit the refugees the enemy displaces and make them pay for the trees under which they seek shelter. 9. We chase away Somali born journalists from our cities, jail freedom fighters from the ****** and hand them over to our ruthless enemy. 10. We use colonial tactics to divide and rule each other. We turn brother against brother, father against son and fight each other to reach fictitious borders erected by a departed imperialist with the help of money supplied by oil companies and foreign spy agencies 11. We hate each other, despise each other, wish ill for each other ignoring all the instructions of our Quran and Suna. The reasons for becoming wailers are endless and cannot be covered in a short article like this one. Unfortunately, nowadays, unionists who try to defend and lobby for the unity of their people are Wailers while secessionists who are bent on dividing them and erecting barriers among them, with the help of our enemies, are heroes. The Wailer article fails to appreciate the gravity of the situation in Northern Somalia by downplaying the resolutions of the traditional leaders of Sool, Sanaag and Cayn to go to war, if necessary, to evict the Somaliland forces from their city. As we speak, they are mobilizing thousands of their young boys to prepare for a prolonged war that may eventually transform into a clan war. The writer of Wailers has been misled into believing that all Soolis support the occupation of Las Anod. He tries to promulgate that myth. The fact is that most Soolis are opposed to the Somaliland aggression. The mostly fiercely independent nomadic herdsmen have no loyalty to Administrations and their local collaborators. Their loyalty is to their traditional leaders and those leaders have spoken clearly. To express our concern and expect a devastating civil-war in the North is not clan motivated as the writer would lead us to believe. Such concern is based on close knowledge of the area and its people. It is based on concern for the fathers and mothers who stand to lose their loved ones. It stems from our concern for the Nomads who stand to lose his herds and/or the right to graze and water them without let or hindrance. It stems from the potential reaction of the thousands of refugees who fled their city and are lurking around its outskirts bent on seeking revenge against those they hold responsible for their plight. In this day and age, people cannot be forced to join a cause they do not believe in. That era is gone forever. Even if 50% of Sool, Sanaag and Cayn residents voluntarily elect to join Somaliland, who can force the other 50% to follow suit? This reminds me of the Quebecois who were split in the referendum to separate from Canada. The secessionists failed to attain the 51% required for the split just as Somaliland would most probably fail to obtain such a percentage in an internationally supervised referendum. The arguments used in the Wailer article for dividing Somalia into cantons are not practical to say the least. Where do we stop and draw the line? The creation of cantons like Somaliland, Darwishland, Makhir Coast Land, Puntland, Hiiranland, BanaadirLand, JubaLand is not the answer. Even demarcating such borders would be a night mare. At the same time, old colonial borders will not solve the problem. They are history and fell with the departure of those who used them to divide Somalia and they can never come back. Finally, Secessionists normally delegate mercenaries to lobby on their behalf to convince foreign countries to recognize and acknowledge their cause. The Wailer article is a welcome break from that trend. Unionists, unlike Secessionists, welcome healthy debate that is based on facts and common sense. Secessionists usually resort to nasty emails, name-calling and character assassination . Let us hope that this wailer article heralds a serious Somali debate between the proponents and opponents of breaking up the Somali Republic and desecrating the Blue Flag. Statements like "Somaliland is forever" will not get us anywhere. We need to work towards win-win situations that guarantee all Somalis a stable future that helps them come back from the Cold and raise their children to speak their native tongue. Ali H. Abdulla Source: http://www.awdalnews.com/wmview.php?ArtID=9723 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted December 26, 2007 Not bad at all. Secessionist talk way too much. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedSea Posted December 27, 2007 This article doesnt even compare to the one which is replying to. The author oo qoray waxba iskuma hayo. The original article kicked butt big time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted December 27, 2007 ^^^Obviously a secessionist is talking about clan wailing when they whole region is but one clan who have a complex and inferiority complex against a multi clan Somalia. lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedSea Posted December 27, 2007 You don't see me protest against any qabiil, so why are you? I think it shows who really is suffering from such complex that you mentioned. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted December 27, 2007 ^^^lool. I am not protesting against anything, the title of your article was "clan wailers" hence my remarks. A secessionist movement built around one clan should not complain about wailing.. Kapish Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedSea Posted December 27, 2007 You are jelous that you are unable to do what Somaliland has done. You can't even save Puntland from itself. Somaliland is holding multi clans together and are co existing peacefully. In Puntland you have 1 clan( 1 sub clan kinda) and yet they can't get along. One of which just recently declared Maakhirland. ps. I challenge Puntland to change hands peacefully without violence and I challenge them to appoint someone from Arab S. clan. That is what Somaliland has done. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted December 27, 2007 ^^What nonsence, Puntland over the past 17 years has been more peaceful than Somaliland. We had our Jama Vs Yeye, but it was less bloody than your Tuur Vs Egaal. Adeer I was not born yesterday I remmeber when there were battles inside Hargaysa and the airport was cloosed down and a major clan was chased out of Burco to Yarowe. I remmeber that war and Egaal's bloody and costly victory and how your founding father Tuur went to Mogadishu and renounced Somaliland and ended up working for Aydeed. Adeer Puntland is part of Somalia and yet managed to face off major threats from USC Aydeed, Egaals secessionists and from Al-Itixad. Even when we fought it was small and decisive since our troops were led by Yey and Jama/cade were reasonable men. Puntland is made up many clans but it's core value is Somaliweyn. again tell the history to someone else, democracy lool. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedSea Posted December 27, 2007 I like how you avoid the real issue at steak. Somaliland has managed to unite AFTER those bloody and cosly battles. They have chosen to rally behind Igal and still voted him in as their President. Pretty incredible thing isn't it? Now for Puntland and how it has failed to function as hoped. The state of Maakhirland was declared because they had enough with you folks. The folks in Sool had enough thus Xaabsade switched sides just to kick Cadde muse militia out of Las Anod. Somaliland not only managed to unite all of its clans but has even won support from those you considered 'reer Puntland' which is funny. It's like you coming to Burco to win support from Burcawis. You can never pull that off. Faan faan aside, Puntland needs to be saved TODAY. Their are human smugglin going on, kidnapping of journalists etc... It's choatic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted December 27, 2007 Red Sea, as long as you do not claim "Somaliland has been safer in terms of wars" As for Makhir, thats the beauty of our system, Puntland is not a country but part of Somalia and hence Makir, Sool and others can go their own way as long as they are part of the Somali republic. Puntland itself might be dissolved in the future and changed. Our aim has always been to unite the Somali state and thats what is happening now. Puntland iS secure enough and its founder is today the head of the TFG bringing order to the south. Today the whole of the North East is united with Mogadishu, Baidoa and the south. ONE FLAG, ONE NATIONAL LEADER ONE CAPITAL Even Makhir which might want to move away from cade is movuing towards Yey and the TFG. The SSC is pro Somaliweyn, even Xabsade is just making money he is anti secessionist so are all those people of his clan in Hargaysa. If Tuur never belived in Somaliland who will All these people are watching Mogadishu and when its calmed they will rush there. There is no Somaliland and only fools belive in such nonsence. Thus Makhir, SSC, Puntland = TFG which is my whole point. Kapish. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar Posted December 27, 2007 8. We are ruled by an enemy who wants to divide our country into pieces. Some of us welcome him with open arms, open trade offices for him and offer him our ports to import his goods. Some of us die with him in the same trenches killing our own people. Some of us exploit the refugees the enemy displaces and make them pay for the trees under which they seek shelter. Soomaali walba should read this paragraph again and again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted December 27, 2007 ^^Qaar baan laqi karin oo u baahan in lagu dul aqriyo! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar Posted December 27, 2007 Quraansaar miyaa. Tahliisha adiga kasoo biloow dhankaaga hee, aan aniga xaaqo tuf ah ugu daree. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted December 27, 2007 lool. Somalia is not occupied, thats a redundent argument. Ethiopia, Uganda and Burundi are not occupaying, much like those looters and IndaCade are not liberating. But hey those who like vision will stik to the layman's argument. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedSea Posted December 28, 2007 ^Somalia isn't occupied. Duke, You do know that Somalia is a country which has international borders correct? You do realize that a country like Ethiopia cannot simply send in military personal to another country without the consent of 1. AU 2. EU 3. UN 4. most importantly, the somali people. Ethiopia had none of that, so it's invasion. If not what else is it? peace keeping mission, oh pleasse! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites