Madfac-land.

[MoonLight1]

War heedhe maxaa koofur un ku koobay xabada, silica, qaxa, burburka, jaha wareerka.

Ma dadkaa saa raali ku ah, ma madaxdoodaa saa raali ku ah, meeye wax garadkoodii, culimadoodii, caamadoodii, indheer gardkoodii.

Inalilahi wa inaa ileyhi raajicuun.

War maad iska qabataan kuwa maatadiina ku kor dagaalamaya, kuwa aan idin cafineyn xitaa bisha barakaysan ee ramadaan.

 

What is the solution in the south (madfac-land)???

[Dr Ligle]

Moon light at least they are recognized as human beings, ur ppl are not even considered human beings or apart of the world, that is why you are ignored by everyone!!!

 

Ps:Mogadishu is madfac land because it is the capital city, if anywhere else was the capital city they would be madfac land also. Because all interest parties who want to take control of the country, need to capture the capital city.

 

Hence haven't u seen how all wars proceed, for example america vs iraq, they never said they captured iraq untill they captured baghdad, even when they were in basra and on the outskirts of baghdad, they never said "we captured iraq". It when they captured baghdad they uttered "victory we captured baghdad and iraq".

 

So don't try putting down the people of the south and make them out to be monsters, when infact if the capital was anywhere else in somalia in 91, they would of suffered the same fate because of interest parties flooding in and causing havoc to take control.

 

That is why u find places like bay, bakool, jubba, gedo, etc are peaceful because it is not the capital. They do have their frictions there but not constant war, it is once in a blue moon.

 

So don't try using the argument "look at the south it is havoc, look at sland its law and order" line!!! because if that worked, hong kong would be separate country based on their british borders.

 

Because hong kong was a democracy and a capitalist nation and former british colony. China is communist state yet no amount of progress, democracy, law and order gave hong kong the right to separate and they were simply thrown back into main-land communist china. Same goes for taiwan, no amount of progress, democracy, etc will get them the right to separate because of 1 key issue "they are all chinese" the borders and colonies of britain are irrelevant. Infact they dont even use the british border argument to seek indepedence for hong kong and taiwan, infact no modern separation uses colonial borders argument. only backward and poor north west somalia use the borders argument. That is why they been 17 years ignored

 

hong kong tried to separate saying "we are democracy,china is communist" which is really a more realistic policy to try your luck on. Because the world now see a benefit in it for them granting recognition to a nation, they can have an ally in strategic part of the world who share the same government system (democracy) as they do. So hong kong tried that line to gain indepedence from communist china. However hong kong was never granted indepedence because china is feared by the west.

 

So a first world country ayaa ku helin recognition that argument of "look at them their war and look at us we are peace", only 17 year snm propaganda think that works. Haven't u opened ur eyes yet? noone uses these failed policies, its waste of time, noone in the world cares what you are or where u r going all they care about is what is it in for them to give u recognition and that is what sland fails to provide. Puntland fills in that vaccum guaranteeing oil for the world and safe-guarding 200 000 ships that pass by our shores making us the most the strategic point in Africa. Now the west will listen because they see something in it for them. That is why if puntland wanted to do, it has the best chance to go indepedent because it has something to bribe them with!!! On top of that it can just say mogadishu and garowe have political mis-understanding and therefore need an exit-door out to preserve their democracy and safe-guard the strategic shipping lane for the international world and provide oil to keep their societies moving stronger in growth. That would be the line puntland would be using if we wanted indepedence.

 

But we dont want it because we have to keep in mind all our kins, especially the ones in kismayo and gedo, and can't leave them behind with a pack of wolves.

 

Like i said the reality is the TFG and FEDERALISM and in 5 years time ur whole region will most likely just be incoporated as a mamul goboleed and the rest is history. That is the future that awaits hargeysa...THE REAL FUTURE, not this "we seek recognition" crap lol 17 years and the world has told u get a life, ur like a poor man still begging at the white man feet and he is telling u shoo u insignificant creature.

 

But what is amazing is, when sland does get incoporated into a federal somaliya, tarikhda of that people will forever be stained by this episode, can u imagine the gabays RING OUT?

[Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar]

War maad iska qabataan kuwa maatadiina ku kor dagaalamaya, kuwa aan idin cafineyn xitaa bisha barakaysan ee ramadaan.

And what makes you not being part of "them?" Ma iska saareysaa dhibka jiro, aha? Just another Soomaali maryooleey baa tahay.

[Dr Ligle]

Miskiin why you think washington got pissed of with sland when they refused to attend the house committee hearing because their excuse was "they wanted separate place so they can advance their recognition goal"

 

You know what the washington judge said, "If they can't drop their political differences for the greater peace of somalis" this proves they are infact the biggest enemies to peace and have been promised by America that as long as America around they will remain isolated as the rebels they are!!!

 

Marka Don't be suprised with these ppl, the hargeysa man is like this "if he see his own brother getting fall down, he won't help to give him a hand up" he will ignore him and let him lie on the road and say "shaqo iskuma lahin" lol...nice brother huh? dadkas oo kale waxaa la yiradha "users" they are only your friend when times are good and they ditch you and ignore and act as if they don't know you when times are tough.

 

That is what snm people are like. It is their characteristics and it is not somali nor is it even islam, infact if taken to islamic court in saudi arabia the actions of this ppl would be viewed as murtadnimo and outside the fold of islam. Marka even haday muslim yihin baa shaqi ku jirto manta!!!

 

But Garowe brother is totally different, the garowe brother is hated by all the other brothers in somalia but he sticks around and tries his best to help his people in hamar to rise up out of this predicament and is the first to seek peace for them. The garowe brother doesn't say usc killed and raped our ppl in hamar and therefore we are going to ignore them and let them kill each other and separate from the country. We forgive and move on. At the end of the day we are all somalis, what is bad for 1 somali is going to make us all look bad in the world.

 

The garowe brother till this day says "somalia iyo puntland kalama marmo" and they will do their best to participate in peace-talks and bring solution to the deadlock that is killing innocent ppl in hamar.

 

I believe that brother is alot better and more reliable because he sticks around for good or for bad. And washington also agrees because they congratulated puntland on it's peacemaker position and nationalist pride of somalia and always trying to find ways to bring peace to somaliya.

 

But then again ppl criticize garowe brother the most, and look for any little excuse they can!!! but that doesn't bother me, it gives more fuel to keep doing the right thing islamically, culturally and inshallah in the 100 years when all this is over puntland will be remembered in the history books as one of the states that sticks with somalinimo...can't say the same of hargeysa though? their name is tarred forever !!!!

[Jacaylbaro]

Someone is so obsessed ....

[Dr Ligle]

JB, i just enlightening people with the facts, so all somalis can turn against hargeysa!!! and i prove my case with an unshakable argument!!!

[Jacaylbaro]

unshakable argument eh ?? ,,

[UZTAAD]

MADFAC_LAND, is it a new state, what the name !?

[kyz]

i think shariif gov + ALshabaab + xisbul islam + ahlusuna is called MADFAC-LAND

[Haatu]

Originally posted by Dr Ligle:

JB, i just enlightening people with the facts, so all somalis can turn against hargeysa!!! and i prove my case with an unshakable argument!!!

Stop right there. No body wants to turn against Hargeisa. It is a Somali city and deserves better.

[UZTAAD]

puntlanders, somalilander, madfaclanders, yaa ku daray

[Haatu]

blahblahland iyo blahblahland ayaaba ina wareerisay

[NASSIR]

Lool@ Garoowe brother. Ligle is comedian. I've never laughed like this in SOL.

[kyz]