what is salafiyyah? what do salafees believe and call to?

[abu_toraab]

As-salam 'alaykum,

 

For sister Sakina, I am not a scholar and still follow scholars. I just don't stick to one madhab. However, I already stated what the SCHOLAR ibn Taymiyyah said. The scholars discussed these issues WAY before I came, therefore, it is not befitting that somebody who is low as me in knowledge goes to make my OWN FATAWA, from my OWN mind.

 

As for sahal, I will show you a hadeeth...be right back

[abu_toraab]

Originally posted by Sakina:

quote:Shaikh Salih al-Fawzaan was asked, "Is Salafiyyah a hizb (party) from amongst the parties. And is ascribing to them (i.e. the Salafis) a blameworthy thing?"

 

To which he replied, "As-Salafiyyah (i.e. the Salafis) is the Saved Sect, and they are Ahl us-Sunnah wal-Jamaa’ah. It is not a hizb (party) from amongst the various parties, those which are called "parties" today. Rather they are the Jamaa’ah, the Jamaa’ah upon the Sunnah and upon the Deen (religion). They are Ahl us-Sunnah wal-Jamaa’ah. The Messenger (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) said, "There will not cease to be a group from my Ummah manifest and upon the truth not being harmed by those who forsake them neither by those who oppose them" and he (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) also said, "And this Ummah will split into seventy-three sects, all of them in the Hellfire but one". They said, which one is this O Messenger of Allaah? He replied, "They are those who are upon what I and my companions are upon today". Hence Salafiyyah is a group of people (i.e. the Salafis) upon the madhhab of the Salaf, upon what the Messenger (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) and his companions were upon and it is not a hizb from amongst the contemporary groups present today. Rather it is the very old Jamaa’ah, from the time of the Messenger (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) which inherits (this way) and continues, and which never ceases to be upon the manifest truth until the establishment of the Hour, as he (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) has informed (us)." (Cassette: "at-Tahdheer min al-Bid’ah" second cassette, delivered as a lecture in Hawtah Sadeer, 1416H).

 

Shaikh Saalih Aal ash-Shaikh, Minister of Islamic Affairs of Saudi Arabia, stated, "Muslims are of two groups: Salafis and Khalafis. As for the Salafis, then they are the followers of Salaf us-Saalih (first three generations of Muslims). And as for the Khalafis, then they are the followers of the understanding of the Khalaf and they are also called Innovators - since everyone who is not pleased and satisfied with the path of the Salaf us-Saalih, in knowledge and action, understanding and fiqh, then he is a khalafi, an innovator."

Muslims have been happy with the Sharia of Islam ever since it came to rule their affairs and daily lives. In modern history, the first Saudi State was founded on the basis of Islam more than two and a half centuries ago, when two pious reformers, Imam Mohammed Bin Saud and Sheikh Mohammed Bin Abdul-Wahhab (may God have mercy on their souls!) committed themselves to it. (King Fahad's speech)

Salafi Dawa, nobody is against Salafi. There is no compulsion in religion. My problem with them is when your leaders and Sheikhs make these type of statements. The Salafi preach that they are the saved sect as you can see from your own sheikhs's statement and lately they are trying to call themselves the Jamaa'ah and saying that the rest of us The Ahlulsunna are not Jamaa'ah. Salafi Dawa what is your reply to these two statements from your leaders one from the sheikhs and the other from the saudi family)?

Since we are not following the Salafi (i.e. Abdul Wahhab) but the Ahlulsunna wa Jamaa'ah (i.e. Imam Shafi'i etc.) do we go to hell?

In case you never noticed, the shaykh refered to As-salafiyah AS Ahlul-Sunnah wal-jama'ah. And you will not find a REAL salafi saying that Imam shafi'i etc. are not imam's of Ahlul-Sunnah wal-jama'ah...so don't think they are being seperated. Just nowadays, with all the groups, Sunni is just refered to as somebody not shia'. That is why you hear the term ahlul-hadeeth, and imam Ahmad made the statement which can be found in the book "Creed of the Pious Preceddors" by As-Sabooni, that "If Ahlul-Hadeeth are not the saved sect, I don't know what is"...

[abu_toraab]

As-salam 'Alaykum

 

As for the issue of Hajjaj, I have come to realize that my position to who was right is currently I DO NOT KNOW. Al-Hamdulillah, I know I have very LITTLE LITTLE knowledge of this deen and am able to admit that. The reason why is because when asking about and recalling hajjaaj was a tyrant and he murdered many etc. I was told that at the time, the empire was split into three. So I was told there are some scholars that said Abdullah ibn Zubayr was wrong and some that say he wasn't. They would say that he was like the ibn Abdul-Wahhab vs. Uthmani's situation. So Allah Knows best. Hasan al-Basree used to say, “Hajjaj is a calamity sent by Allaah, do not try to remove him by force but ask Allah Taa'la.†Therefore, the moment the news of the death of Hajjaj was reported Hasan al Basree and Umar bin Abdul Aziz bin Marwan fell in prostration to Allah and exclaimed,†The pharaoh of this nation is no more!"

 

At the moment, I am forced to say I am unable to take a preference of the opinions out there on Abdullah ibn Az-Zubayr but about the rulers of saudi arabia currently, I am able to post:

I

t is authentically reported from the Messenger in the hadeeth of 'Iyaad ibn Ghunum who said, "The Messenger of Allaah (saaws) said, 'Whoever desires to advise the one with authority then he should not do so openly, rather he should take him by the hand and take him into seclusion (and then advise him). And if he accepts (the advice) from him then (he has achieved his objective) and if not, then he has fulfilled that which was a duty upon him.'

[Sakina]

They would say that he was like the ibn Abdul-Wahhab vs. Uthmani's situation. So Allah Knows best. Hasan al-Basree used to say, “Hajjaj is a calamity sent by Allaah, do not try to remove him by force but ask Allah Taa'la.â€

 

"The Messenger of Allaah (saaws) said, 'Whoever desires to advise the one with authority then he should not do so openly, rather he should take him by the hand and take him into seclusion (and then advise him). And if he accepts (the advice) from him then (he has achieved his objective) and if not, then he has fulfilled that which was a duty upon him.'

Abu_toraab, according to this hadith Ibn Abdulwahhab had no right to revolt against the leader therefore he is in violation of the sharia. How can the salafi follow him then when he violated his own interpretation of the sharia?

"Will you bid others to piety and forget yourselves, while you recite the Book? Do you not apply reason? (Qur'an 2:44)

I am not asking you to issue a fatwa just what do you think? Are salafis allowed to have discussions after lectures or they just have to memorize what their thaught and never discuss about it?

 

"When they are told, 'Follow what Allah has sent down,' they say , "We will rather follow what we found our fathers following.' What! Even if Satan be calling them to the punishment of the Blaze?" (Qur'an 31:21)

[sahal]

As for the issue of Hajjaj, I have come to realize that my position to who was right is currently I DO NOT KNOW. Al-Hamdulillah, I know I have very LITTLE LITTLE knowledge of this deen and am able to admit that.

when it comes the oppressor rulers you and yourgroup are too lean and their knowledege is too little to give fatwa and they don't know :mad: too blind :cool: etc.

 

But when it comes the ULUMA, DUAAT you and your group are too strong , too hard , too angry too abusive etc.

 

Which religion ypu're representing?

 

ISLAM knows RIGHT & WRONG, DARK & LIGHT even to your brother, relative, to you FUNDER, SPONSOR whether they're RICH or POOR. this is ISLAM.

 

But fortunately the people are not so ignorant to be decieved by RHETORIC statements.

 

We all live in the WEST, we know what SPONSOR and FUNDER means, it means you've to be always LOYAL to them, so no wonder to be LOYAL to Al-saud regime and other Co-sponsors.

 

But what is strange that you differentiate the RULERS, for example No. 13 of your constitution says:

 

We do not deem it correct to revolt against the Muslim rulers as long as they are Muslims, nor do we feel that revolutions bring about reconciliation. Rather, they corrupt the community. As for the rulers of Aden, then we feel that fighting them is obligatory, until they repent from heresy, Socialism and calling people to the worship of Lenin and Marx and other than these two from those who professed disbelief.

So what maskes fighting against Yemeni rulers obligatory and not AL-saud? :cool: , Cleverness isn't it?

 

If I count the contradictions of your group it would fill SOL pages.

 

I was told that at the time, the empire was split into three. So I was told there are some scholars that said Abdullah ibn Zubayr was wrong and some that say he wasn't. They would say that he was like the ibn Abdul-Wahhab vs. Uthmani's situation. So Allah Knows best. /QUOTE]

 

Who told you? where are those who are saying HAJJAJ was RIGHT and Abdallah ZUbayr (Radhiyaalahu Canhu) was wrong? why don't they come forward and say publicly? why don't you COPY & PASTE their FATWAs as you do in other cases? we want to know them, because they're insulting our BELOVED RELIGION and suspecting it that it doesn't distingusih between RIGHT & WRONG.

 

Between HAJJAJ & ABDULAAH BIN ZUBAYR, Between YAZID and OUR BELOVED PROPHETS GRAND CHILDREN between AL-SAUD REGIME and THOSE NOBLE ULUMA WHO ASKED THEM TO CHANGE THEIR EVIL BEHAVE.

 

we want to know TELL US please?

 

Otherwise we will SUE yoyr group for their MOCK to our RELIGION and descriping it as HANDICAP, IMPERFECT, BLIND, INJUSTICE etc. which cannot distinguish between WRONG & RIGHT.

 

I'm Serious abou turab

[abu_toraab]

I was told that at the time, the empire was split into three. So I was told there are some scholars that said Abdullah ibn Zubayr was wrong and some that say he wasn't. They would say that he was like the ibn Abdul-Wahhab vs. Uthmani's situation. So Allah Knows best. /QUOTE]

 

Who told you? where are those who are saying HAJJAJ was RIGHT and Abdallah ZUbayr (Radhiyaalahu Canhu) was wrong? why don't they come forward and say publicly? why don't you COPY & PASTE their FATWAs as you do in other cases? we want to know them, because they're insulting our BELOVED RELIGION and suspecting it that it doesn't distingusih between RIGHT & WRONG.

 

Between HAJJAJ & ABDULAAH BIN ZUBAYR, Between YAZID and OUR BELOVED PROPHETS GRAND CHILDREN between AL-SAUD REGIME and THOSE NOBLE ULUMA WHO ASKED THEM TO CHANGE THEIR EVIL BEHAVE.

 

we want to know TELL US please?

 

Otherwise we will SUE yoyr group for their MOCK to our RELIGION and descriping it as HANDICAP, IMPERFECT, BLIND, INJUSTICE etc. which cannot distinguish between WRONG & RIGHT.

 

I'm Serious abou turab [/QB]

As-salam 'alaykum,

 

I will try my best to have sabr and say the worst I can by calling you disrespectful.

 

1) NO SALAFI (sabr Abu toraab, don't call sahal a shaytan) CAN SAY HAJJAJ WAS RIGHT IN KILLING ALL THOSE PEOPLE SAID. NO SALAFI CAN SAY THAT. In reality, I never said that. So I will give you the benefit of the doubt and NOT call you a filthy shaytan for trying to make it seem like I was saying Hajjaj was RIGHT. I will just say that maybe you misinterpeted my words. NEVER did I say that some Ulama say Hajjaj was RIGHT. I was saying about Abdullah ibn Zubayr fighting Hajjaj, some claim that he was rebelling. But where I got the thing about the empire was split in three at the time is from the dar-us-salam 3 volume set they have on History, get it if you want to read it for yourself.

 

As for now Sakina and Abu Sahal, the point I was making about Abdul-Wahhab vs. Uthami empire should be re-written as As-Saud/Abdul-Wahhab vs Uthami empire. That is because the As-Saud family was there own nation fighting against the Uthamis. It is different then if I jumped myself, even though I am not the amir, against hte country. If you go to bush and try to kill him, it is different then having a caliphah and starting a jihad.

 

Now for you sahal, I am serious, stop accusing us salafis for liking Hajjaj and Yazid... I am just THIS close for making dua' against you for your DISGUISTING insults...

 

I mean, if you consider me a MUSLIM and not a KAFIR, what can POSSESS YOU (other than a shaytan from the jinn or ins) to accuse me of loving Hajjaj and Yazid? AND YOU, unless I misinterpreted, LIED when you said about the ulama asking the rulers asking the evil government to change their behavoir. That is what Salafiyyah teaches is allowed. For the people to SPEAK to the Muslim rulers and not to try to SHED blood thinking that will bring change....ALLAHU HOWA AL-MUSTA'AN 'AMAA Tasifoon

[abu_toraab]

Originally posted by sahal:

quote:As for the issue of Hajjaj, I have come to realize that my position to who was right is currently I DO NOT KNOW. Al-Hamdulillah, I know I have very LITTLE LITTLE knowledge of this deen and am able to admit that.

when it comes the oppressor rulers you and yourgroup are too lean and their knowledege is too little to give fatwa

and they don't know :mad: too blind :cool: etc.

 

But when it comes the ULUMA, DUAAT you and your group are too strong , too hard , too angry

too abusive

etc.

 

Which religion ypu're representing?

 

1) If you consider ME to be a muslim and not a kafir, you would apologize for your horrible remarks against me. You are asking me what religion I represent??!!!! Are you questioning that I am a Muslim?? You are asking, May Allah give me some of your hasanaat because of your horrible question "what religion do you represent?" I say, FEAR ALLAH IN YOUR NAFS

2) About you and claiming "I" am too strong and too angry, and too abusive concerning ulama and duaat, incase you never read the hadith in the 40 hadeeth, the claim is upon the claimant, that means, you claim that I am like that, since you said, "you and your group" so bring your proof. Otherwise, I will just dismiss you as some guy that hates the saudi regime and thus accus us salafis of being haters etc.

[Final_Say]

subxanallah, i see, the same people, fighting the same corners at all times, funny i under estimated the hearted felt for salafiya by some individuals on SOL.

 

abu_toraab: i guess you have not figured it out yet; it does not matter what you say, they will always find something else to pick on, within salafiya, whether its there fatwa's, attitude, leaders, caqeeda; anything;

don't get upset and annoyed about it, for whom so ever Allah guides, none can misguide, and whom so ever is misguided, no one can guide;

 

in any case, as it is religion, you are all discussing, the basic islamic manners is respect for each other and for others who ur debating about;

 

maca salamah

[Sakina]

As for now Sakina and Abu Sahal, the point I was making about Abdul-Wahhab vs. Uthami empire should be re-written as As-Saud/Abdul-Wahhab vs Uthami empire. That is because the As-Saud family was there own nation fighting against the Uthamis

Abu_toraab which nation are you talking about? Was Najd a nation? On what basis Abdul Wahhab supported the Saudi family according to the sharia?

King Fahad's speech

Muslims have been happy with the Sharia of Islam ever since it came to rule their affairs and daily lives. In modern history, the first Saudi State was founded on the basis of Islam more than two and a half centuries ago, when two pious reformers, Imam Mohammed Bin Saud and Sheikh Mohammed Bin Abdul-Wahhab (may God have mercy on their souls!) committed themselves to it.

If it were not true that the Saud/Abdul Wahhab had an alliance then why the salafis are not condemning this speech and say that he is lying?

Please just do an indipendent research on the alliance of the Saud/Abdul Wahhab with open mindedness. The reality is that the Saud needed Abdul Wahhab because people would accept a sheikh reformer easier than a dictator.

 

"O you who have faith! If a profligate (person) should bring you some news, verify it, lest you should visit (harm) on some people out of ignorance, and then become regretful for what you have done." Qur'an (49:6)

 

mizz_S.lander

and those of u who are using the likes of Osama bin laden as a role model of what we should do:

 

NB: that salafis have kept their mouth close about him, all they have said is that IF he did step11, then he was wrong and it was not from the sunnah and QUran. many of you should no this, there are guidelines for war and it does not including killing women and children and trees and those who are not fighting you. and a state of war has to be declared which has not been..... so what are u'll supporting him for.....]

Have you checked what happened to the women and children of Medina and Makka etc. when the Saudi state supported by Abdul Wahhab waged war on them? What happened to the Uluma of Makka and Medina? And why is it wrong for Osama to wage war ( I do not support Osama at all) but it is alright for the Saudi/Abdul Wahhab to wage war? Don't you agree that Osama is doing the same thing that the Saud/Abdul Wahhab had done in the past? Why the salafi follow this rule only after taking over the cities of the Arabian Peninsula? And please just answer the questions and don't use the exuse that people hate the salafis etc. let's stick to the issues at hand.

 

mizz_S.lander

Many ullams have said that every hundred years Allah send someone to revive the sunnah, abdual wahab was one of those

It is almost three centuries now who are the 3 reformers that are supposed to come after Abdul Wahhab.

 

in any case, as it is religion, you are all discussing, the basic islamic manners is respect for each other and for others who ur debating about;

I agree. We should refrain calling each others names and stick to the issue with proofs and quotations from reliable sources such as King Fahd's speech since it is a famous speech and people cannot deny it's authenticity or from books written by the Salafi or historical facts such as the alliance of the Saud/Abdul Wahhab etc.

[abu_toraab]

Originally posted by Sakina:

quote:As for now Sakina and Abu Sahal, the point I was making about Abdul-Wahhab vs. Uthami empire should be re-written as As-Saud/Abdul-Wahhab vs Uthami empire. That is because the As-Saud family was there own nation fighting against the Uthamis

Abu_toraab which nation are you talking about? Was Najd a nation? On what basis Abdul Wahhab supported the Saudi family according to the sharia?

King Fahad's speech

Muslims have been happy with the Sharia of Islam ever since it came to rule their affairs and daily lives. In modern history, the first Saudi State was founded on the basis of Islam more than two and a half centuries ago, when two pious reformers, Imam Mohammed Bin Saud and Sheikh Mohammed Bin Abdul-Wahhab (may God have mercy on their souls!) committed themselves to it.

If it were not true that the Saud/Abdul Wahhab had an alliance then why the salafis are not condemning this speech and say that he is lying?

Please just do an indipendent research on the alliance of the Saud/Abdul Wahhab with open mindedness. The reality is that the Saud needed Abdul Wahhab because people would accept a sheikh reformer easier than a dictator.

 

"O you who have faith! If a profligate (person) should bring you some news, verify it, lest you should visit (harm) on some people out of ignorance, and then become regretful for what you have done." Qur'an (49:6)

 

mizz_S.lander

and those of u who are using the likes of Osama bin laden as a role model of what we should do:

 

NB: that salafis have kept their mouth close about him, all they have said is that IF he did step11, then he was wrong and it was not from the sunnah and QUran. many of you should no this, there are guidelines for war and it does not including killing women and children and trees and those who are not fighting you. and a state of war has to be declared which has not been..... so what are u'll supporting him for.....]

Have you checked what happened to the women and children of Medina and Makka etc. when the Saudi state supported by Abdul Wahhab waged war on them? What happened to the Uluma of Makka and Medina? And why is it wrong for Osama to wage war ( I do not support Osama at all) but it is alright for the Saudi/Abdul Wahhab to wage war? Don't you agree that Osama is doing the same thing that the Saud/Abdul Wahhab had done in the past? Why the salafi follow this rule only after taking over the cities of the Arabian Peninsula? And please just answer the questions and don't use the exuse that people hate the salafis etc. let's stick to the issues at hand.

 

mizz_S.lander

Many ullams have said that every hundred years Allah send someone to revive the sunnah, abdual wahab was one of those

It is almost three centuries now who are the 3 reformers that are supposed to come after Abdul Wahhab.

 

in any case, as it is religion, you are all discussing, the basic islamic manners is respect for each other and for others who ur debating about;

I agree. We should refrain calling each others names and stick to the issue with proofs and quotations from reliable sources such as King Fahd's speech since it is a famous speech and people cannot deny it's authenticity or from books written by the Salafi or historical facts such as the alliance of the Saud/Abdul Wahhab etc.

The answer for all of this lies in the biography of Imam 'Abdul-Wahhab. And I guess you never understood the concept of "husn adh-dhan" when you accuse the King As-Saud of being a dictator who needed Abdul-Wahhab since he was a shaykh. The people where worshipping other than Allah with there idea they call "tawassul" which I am sure the people on SOL would know about. Allah blessed King As-Saud with the acceptance of what Abdul-Wahhab was reminding people about and the ruler worked with the shaykh. And was for ones now, we have Shaykh Al-Albani who just passed away and nobody can deny the fact that he was an expert in Hadeeths and revived, by the permission of Allah, peoples interest in this science.

[abu_toraab]

Originally posted by mizz_S.lander:

subxanallah, i see, the same people, fighting the same corners at all times, funny i under estimated the hearted felt for salafiya by some individuals on SOL.

 

abu_toraab: i guess you have not figured it out yet; it does not matter what you say, they will always find something else to pick on, within salafiya, whether its there fatwa's, attitude, leaders, caqeeda; anything;

don't get upset and annoyed about it, for whom so ever Allah guides, none can misguide, and whom so ever is misguided, no one can guide;

 

in any case, as it is religion, you are all discussing, the basic islamic manners is respect for each other and for others who ur debating about;

 

maca salamah

Innamaa 'oreedo an aksheefa hatha ar-rajool.

 

I only want to expose this man (sahal).

By the way, Sahal, by any chance, would you be living in Alberta? (I have a relative there and he has similiar ideas, if so )

[abu_toraab]

Originally posted by Sakina:

quote:They would say that he was like the ibn Abdul-Wahhab vs. Uthmani's situation. So Allah Knows best. Hasan al-Basree used to say, “Hajjaj is a calamity sent by Allaah, do not try to remove him by force but ask Allah Taa'la.â€

 

"The Messenger of Allaah (saaws) said, 'Whoever desires to advise the one with authority then he should not do so openly, rather he should take him by the hand and take him into seclusion (and then advise him). And if he accepts (the advice) from him then (he has achieved his objective) and if not, then he has fulfilled that which was a duty upon him.'

Abu_toraab, according to this hadith Ibn Abdulwahhab had no right to revolt against the leader therefore he is in violation of the sharia. How can the salafi follow him then when he violated his own interpretation of the sharia?

"Will you bid others to piety and forget yourselves, while you recite the Book? Do you not apply reason? (Qur'an 2:44)

I am not asking you to issue a fatwa just what do you think? Are salafis allowed to have discussions after lectures or they just have to memorize what their thaught and never discuss about it?

 

"When they are told, 'Follow what Allah has sent down,' they say , "We will rather follow what we found our fathers following.' What! Even if Satan be calling them to the punishment of the Blaze?" (Qur'an 31:21)

Might i ask, what madhab do you follow?

[bint abee saeed]

Bismillaah was salaatuh was salaam 'ala rasolillah

 

assalamu 'alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh

 

ya ikhwan wa akhawaat, i plead with you to fear Allaah. Fear Him as He should be feared. When i posted this article i did not intend it to be a subject of debate. my intention was to clarify to those individuals who have a misunderstanding of dawatus salafiyah, to what the menhaj is and calls to. some misconceptions are that, it is a new sect, saudi government is behind this, etc. so these points outlined BRIEFLY what the menhaj is about. i am very surprised that you can find things to argue about.

 

Please fear Allaah and hold on firm to the Kitab and sunnah. the religion has been completed for us. there is no room for the layman's opinion. and who understood the religion the best? the first 3 generations. so we base our understanding of the kitab and sunnah in accordance to their understanding. and after them we had imams and scholars who have taken on the same path.

 

are you people arguing with us or are you challenging Allaah and His messenger?????? you have copied and pasted quotes from every salafi on this forum and refuted them according to your opinion and desires. and because u stated some ayat doesnt make u correct because 1) u based it on your understanding 2) you have no knowledge of the issue you're refuting.

 

inshallah read the tafseer of the ayat and explanations of the scholars.

 

If you desire the truth, then search for it with a sincere heart. dont just look for things to attack the members of this board. remeber this is the deen of Allaah. if you dont understand something, return to those who know, not us masaakeen posting here.

Walahee i fear that you are not a people who care for the truth, you ask vague questions and when u get the answer you start with something irrelavent.

and please dont accept and reject things if its not in accordance to your intellect. we have to know our position and understand how very little our knowledge is. take the brother who said the idea of obeying the opressive rulers is retarded,as an example, not realising that it came from the statement of the messenger of Allaah salallaahu alayhi was salam, so he ridiculed the revelation without realising.

 

Allaah knows what is in our hearts, and whomever desires the straight path then Allaah will guide him to it. but as for those who reject the truth and follow their desires, then Allaahu musta'an.

 

inshallah, dont pick from my statements and pose some bazar remarks as an attempt to defame dawatus salafiyyah, go to the salafi websites i added earlier and look into the articles and audios of the scholars if u want a knowledgebased understanding of salafiyyah.

 

ADVICE TO THOSE POSTING IN DEFENCE OF SALAFIYYAH:

may Allah reward you for your intentions and increase you and guide u to what He is pleased with. inshallah stay firm to the statements of the trustworthy scholars and becareful in the examples and explanation u give from your ownselves. again this is the deen of Allaah, and we call to Allah upon knowledge, and its important we know our position so that we do not mention something incorrect and as a result turn others away from the guidance.

and please dont waste your time answering and replying to some of the posts, it seems like they're just trying to oppose salafiyyah, so when the truth becomes clear they copy a statement from u and find something new to attack this menhaj on. so dont allow the deen of Allaah to be subject to ridicule.

may Allaah guides us ALL to the truth, and forgive us for what has occurred between us in this forum. Ameen.

assalaamu 'alaykum

[bint abee saeed]

PLEASE READ THE ARTICLE AGAIN WITH A SINCERE HEART. THIS MENHAJ IS CLEAR AND THE CREED OF THE SALAFI IS CLEAR. ARE YOU HONESTLY GOING TO REJECT THIS AND SAY YOU DONT WANT TO BE SALAFI/SUNNI/FOLLOWER OF THE SALAFUS SAALEEH?

 

THE REALITY IS THAT THE UMMAH HAS SPLIT INTO DIFFERENT SECTS AND PARTIES. AND THE MESSENGER SAID THE SAVED SECT IS ONE AND THEY ARE THOSE WHO ARE UPON WHAT HIM AND HIS COMPANIONS ARE UPON. SO THIS IS THE SALAFI, HE IS A FOLLOWER OF THE SALAF.

 

INSHALLAH, NOW YOU HAVE BEEN EXPOSED TO SALAFIYYAH, SO YOU HAVE TO GO AND SEARCH THE TRUTH, EVEN IF YOU BELIEVE SALAFIYYAH IS NOT THE TRUTH GO AND FIND WHAT TRUTH IS THEN. AND MAKE DU'AH THAT ALLAH AIDS YOU.

IT IS ALLAAH WE WILL ALL HAVE TO RETURN TO.

 

MAY ALLAAH SHOW US TRUTH AS TRUTH AND AID US IN ACCEPTING IT, AND SHOW US FALSEHOOD AS FALSEHOOD AND AID US IN ABANDONING IT. AMEEN

[abu_toraab]

Originally posted by bint abee saeed:

PLEASE READ THE ARTICLE AGAIN WITH A SINCERE HEART. THIS MENHAJ IS CLEAR AND THE CREED OF THE SALAFI IS CLEAR. ARE YOU HONESTLY GOING TO REJECT THIS AND SAY YOU DONT WANT TO BE SALAFI/SUNNI/FOLLOWER OF THE SALAFUS SAALEEH?

 

THE REALITY IS THAT THE UMMAH HAS SPLIT INTO DIFFERENT SECTS AND PARTIES. AND THE MESSENGER SAID THE SAVED SECT IS ONE AND THEY ARE THOSE WHO ARE UPON WHAT HIM AND HIS COMPANIONS ARE UPON. SO THIS IS THE SALAFI, HE IS A FOLLOWER OF THE SALAF.

 

INSHALLAH, NOW YOU HAVE BEEN EXPOSED TO SALAFIYYAH, SO YOU HAVE TO GO AND SEARCH THE TRUTH, EVEN IF YOU BELIEVE SALAFIYYAH IS NOT THE TRUTH GO AND FIND WHAT TRUTH IS THEN. AND MAKE DU'AH THAT ALLAH AIDS YOU.

IT IS ALLAAH WE WILL ALL HAVE TO RETURN TO.

 

MAY ALLAAH SHOW US TRUTH AS TRUTH AND AID US IN ACCEPTING IT, AND SHOW US FALSEHOOD AS FALSEHOOD AND AID US IN ABANDONING IT. AMEEN

As-salam 'alaykum,

 

Jazaki Allah Khayran, you should of posted that earlier. For the record, as the sister posted a good article from Shaykh Saleh Al-Fawzan (translated, hafidhahulllah) I would like to clarify that those websites are good but one should not limit themselves to that, instead, learn arabic as well...

 

Anyway, that is the LAST of my posts on this issue thread, so if somebody does not get a reply from me, It is because I said it is the LAST of my posts on this thread