what is salafiyyah? what do salafees believe and call to?

[bint abee saeed]

Bismillaah Ar-Rahmaan Ar-Raheem

Assalamu'alaikum wa rahmatullaahi wa barakatu

 

10 Points on the Salafee Manhaj

 

By: Shaikh Yahya An-Najmee

[for a bio of shaykh yahya click ]here

 

1. We worship Allaah by way of Tawheed. So we do not supplicate to anyone besides Allaah nor do we seek refuge in anyone besides Him in matters of bringing about good or repelling some harm. We perform worship by having hatred and enmity for the polytheists. However, we are obligated to call them to Tawheed first and clarify to them that there is no Islaam without Tawheed and that whoever calls unto other than Allaah has committed disbelief. So whoever persists after that, then at that point we are obligated to distance ourselves from him and hate him for the sake of Allaah.

 

2. The Creed of the Salaf is established upon the principle that "Allaah is described with what He has described himself with in His Book and upon the tongue of His Messenger (sallAllaahu 'alayhi wa sallam), without resorting to tahreef, tamtheel, tashbeeh, ta’teel or ta’weel." [1]

 

3. We affirm for Allaah the best of Names, which He has affirmed for Himself and which He has praised Himself with, whether they are mentioned in the Qur’aan or the Sunnah.

 

4. We believe that there is no path towards achieving Allaah’s contentment, or a way towards Paradise, except through the Way of Allaah’s Messenger (sallAllaahu 'alayhi wa sallam). And whoever seeks a way towards gaining Allaah’s contentment through other than the Way of Allaah’s Messenger, then he has gone astray and been blinded from the truth. And he has lost in this world and the next.

 

5. We believe that the Legislation of Allaah is what has been brought down through the two revelations: The Book of Allaah and the Sunnah of His Messenger (sallAllaahu 'alayhi wa sallam). This is what our Lord has indicated in his saying: "Then we placed you on a Sharee'ah (Legislated System) based on Our Command, so follow it, and do not follow the desires of those who have no knowledge." [surah Al-Jaathiyah: 18]

 

6. We believe that the Qur’aan is the Speech of Allaah, which was revealed and not created, and that the Sunnah is what explains and clarifies it. The Qur’aan is interpreted by the Sunnah and by the interpretations of the Sahaabah (Companions) and those who followed them in goodness. So the interpretation of the Qur’aan is by way of the narration, meaning by way of the Sahaabah, the Taabi’een and the Ahaadeeth concerning it. And the books that contain these interpretations are the ones we are obligated to acquire and read, such as the Tafseer of Ibn Jareer, the Tafseer of Ibn Katheer, the Tafseer of Al-Baghawee, the Tafseer "Ad-Durr Al-Manthoor" of As-Suyootee and so on.

 

7. We are obligated to take the Sunnah according to the way of the Muhadditheen - in terms of their authenticity or weakness. So we take what is found to be authentic and leave off what is weak.

 

8. We worship Allaah by obeying the rulers, as long as they are Muslims who seek judgement through Allaah’s Legislation and who establish the prescribed punishments, and as long as they establish the prayer. Obeying them is an obligation even if they commit oppression. And whoever says something contrary to this and makes it permissible to revolt against the Muslim leader, even if he may be oppressive, then he is an innovator and a deviant. And it is obligatory on the Muslim scholars to refute this statement of his and to expose his deviance.

 

9. We hold that it is not permissible to spread the faults of the leaders, because doing this influences and brings about trials and afflictions (fitan), and causes them to spread.

 

10. We are obligated to worship Allaah through the Sunnah, by following it and by loathing innovations and the innovators. This is based on the Prophet’s saying: "Whoever does a deed, which is not in accordance to our affair (i.e. the Sunnah) is rejected." And in another narration: "Whoever introduces into our affair (Sunnah) that which isn’t part of it is rejected."

 

This is a summary and some brief words on the Creed of the Salaf, which we are obligated to accept and follow if we truly want salvation and the truth. And we must renounce those opinions of men, which cannot be traced back to any source of evidence, since men are known by way of the truth and the truth is not known by way of men. Lastly, we must beg and implore Allaah to show us the truth as true and enable us to follow it, and to show us the falsehood as false and enable us to avoid it. Indeed Allaah is Responsible for that and Able to make it happen. And may the peace and blessings of Allaah be on Muhammad - the best, most dutiful, most pious and purest of creation - and on his family and his Companions.

 

 

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Footnotes:

 

[1] Translator’s Note: These are forbidden acts committed against Allaah’s Names and Attributes. Tahreef means to change or distort the wording of Allaah’s name or attribute. Tamtheel and tashbeeh means to give a like resemblance to a name or an attribute. Ta’teel means total denial of a name or an attribute. Ta’weel means to misinterpret a name or an attribute, thus changing it’s meaning.

 

 

www.al-ibaanah.com

 

wasalaamu'alaikum wa rahmatullaahi wa barakatu

[bint abee saeed]

some websites known for their salafi content:

 

English Resources:

 

Starting Point • www.salaf.com

 

Knowledge Base

www.troid.org

• www.salafipublications.com

• www.salafiaudio.com

• www.fatwa-online.com

• www.bakkah.net

• www.therighteouspath.com

www.thewahhabimyth.com

 

Scholar Spotlight

• www.albani.co.uk

• www.binbaz.co.uk

• www.binuthaymin.co.uk

• www.muqbil.co.uk

• www.rabee.co.uk

• www.ubayd.co.uk

• www.fawzan.co.uk

 

Reference

Commerce

• www.thenoblequran.com

• www.sahihalbukhari.com

• www.sahihmuslim.com

 

Children

• www.islam4kids.com

• www.salafischool.com

 

Commerce

• www.troid.org/store

• www.salafibookstore.com

[Salafi_Online]

As-salamu alaykum wa rahmatullah

 

The noble Shaykh and Doctor, Saleh As-Saleh has recently constructed his own website. All the Topics are all audio based, and they conver a variety of subjects.

 

highly recommended:

 

www.understand-islam.net

[Sakina]

8. We worship Allaah by obeying the rulers, as long as they are Muslims who seek judgement through Allaah’s Legislation and who establish the prescribed punishments, and as long as they establish the prayer. Obeying them is an obligation even if they commit oppression. And whoever says something contrary to this and makes it permissible to revolt against the Muslim leader, even if he may be oppressive, then he is an innovator and a deviant. And it is obligatory on the Muslim scholars to refute this statement of his and to expose his deviance.

 

9. We hold that it is not permissible to spread the faults of the leaders, because doing this influences and brings about trials and afflictions (fitan), and causes them to spread.

 

Of course the Salafi will always support the oppression of the Saudi family since they formed alliance with the founder of the salafi movement Mohammad ibn Abd-al Wahhab.

 

According to the Salafi rules 8-9 it was wrong for the somali people to fight against the former dictator and it would be wrong right now to fight against all the warlords roaming in Somalia as long as they are muslims and pray.

Salafi claim that it is an innovation to remember the Prophet's (saw) birthday while they celebrate every year KINGDOM OF SAUDI ARABIA DAY the day that the two families (the Saudis and the Wahhabis took over the Arabian Peninsula). Why the Salafi accept this or it is because of rule 8 & 9?

 

Abdallah ibn Umar narrates that the Messenger of Allah (saw) said:"O Allah! Bless our Sham and our Yemen." They (the sahaba) said: "Our Najd as well." The Messenger of Allah (saw)again said "O Allah! Bless our Sham and our Yemen." They said again "Our Najd as well" The Messenger of Allah (saw) said: " There, will appear earthquakes and tribulations and from there will rise the horn of Shaytan" SAHIH BUKHARI No. 990

[sahal]

Sakina Thanks for preventing the misguiding of this Al-Saud Group who misguided MUSLIMS by calling themselves SALAFIYAH.

 

They're the PR of the Kingdom and its well known that every government spend a lot of money to its MINISTRY OF INFORMATION.

 

I really laugh when I see their 8,9 articles .

 

Just look when it comes other DAWA groups like TABLIIGH, IKHWAN, TAXRIIR etc. they're very hard on them and they sometimes say they're worse than the KUFARS, but when it come FAHAD, ABDALLA, and AL-SAud regime they're like domestic SLAVES :rolleyes: ,

We hold that it is not permissible to spread the faults of the leaders, because doing this influences and brings about trials and afflictions (fitan), and causes them to spread.

What cleaverness :cool: , they know how to get their funding but i'm very sorry those who trapped in their net.

 

If you have MONEY (sometimes) you can turn the DARK to LIGHT and vice vers but DARK is always DARK and LIGHT is always LIGHT.

 

AL-saud KINGDOM has invested huge money to dominate MUSLIM world and this group is their most important LIFELINE. However, they realised that their honeymoon has come to an end. what they're traying now is to change their tactics but IT'S OVER :eek: .

[Viking]

Obeying them is an obligation even if they commit oppression. And whoever says something contrary to this and makes it permissible to revolt against the Muslim leader, even if he may be oppressive, then he is an innovator and a deviant. And it is obligatory on the Muslim scholars to refute this statement of his and to expose his deviance.

Where would the Islamic Revolution be? Good think Iranians don't have this retarded rule otherwise their country would be run by someone like Pahlavi Shah and Iranian oil would belong to USA and GB.

[bilan]

i do not want to start war here, and i do not like to be labeled as i believe muslim is enough; however zakina, you are mixing things up here, those who do not celebrate birthday of the prophet, do not celebrate any other day except the two eids. so where on earth did you get they celebrate saudi day, did you see saudi scholars celebrating saudi day?.

[Salafi_Online]

Viking, bro i cant wait till the day you meet the nabi and you tell him the hadith below where the rule is derived from is retarded:

 

The Prophet said: ‘‘The person must obey his ruler in whatever he loves, and in whatever he hates, in ease and in hardship, in willingness and un-willingness; except if he is commanded to disobey Allaah. So if he is commanded to disobey Allaah, then he should not listen, nor should he obey.’’ Related by al-Bukhaaree (4/203)

Bro Allah said when you differ on anything, then return it to Allah and his messenger(ie Sunnah) with all due respect bro, if you dont agree then return it to Allah and his messenger.

[sahal]

Salafi Da'wa, Sheikh Mohamed Bin Abdulwahab revolt against Othman Khilafah (i'm not saying Empire because a. I don't believe it was an Empire but it was weak Islamic Khilafah b. the West labelled it) ruling almost all Muslim land including Najd & Hijaz (Where today you cal Saudi Arabia), So where he was right or wrong?

 

Second if you (and Salafiyah group) claim that you're the followers of the Sheikh, why don't you fight agianst these small countries like Qatar, U.A.E, Bahrain, Kuwayt etc to unite(at least) Arabian penisula since his aim was to unite Arabian penisula under one leadership (King Abdulaziz) and he fought against autonomy provinces to force them to join this leadership, so why don't you follow him and to annex these small provincies?

 

Thirdly, was the aim of Sheikh to create a kingdom of First (Al-saud), second (Al-sheikh) and third Mawali (the rest) citizens (which i don't think it) or to create an Islamic state which is different from the Othman Khilafah? if it's the later why the Sheikhs of your group don't declare that this was not the aim of the Sheikh? in other words why are are happy with Al-saud regime which everybody (muslim and non-muslims) see that they're far from what the Sheikh was fighting for? or they think that this was what the Shiekh was fighting for?

 

 

Finally, please answer the above questions since you're the Embassy of this group, and you're allowed to copy & paste here.

[Viking]

Narrated Ibn 'Umar:

 

The 'Prophet said, "It is obligatory for one to listen to and obey (the ruler's orders) unless these orders involve one disobedience (to Allah); but if an act of disobedience (to Allah) is imposed, he should not listen to or obey it."

 

 

Salafi,

So where do we start listing the number of things that the Saudi govt has done that are in conflict with what Allah SWT has ordained?

 

- The collaborating with the kufar against Muslims

 

- the helping in facilitating the killing of Muslims

 

- injustice through harsh sentencing of the poor, weak Muslim foreigners

 

- the mistreatement of Muslims from other countries

 

- the opression of women

 

- the supression of freedom

 

- the power being held by an impious monarchy instead of a just and pious leader

 

- the abuse of those who aren't in complianace with the tenets of 'Salafism' etc etc.

 

The list is endless.

[Sakina]

This is the speech that King Fahd gave when he came up with the basic law of governance. The Saudi and the Wahhab family continiously brag about their alliance and yet the newly Salafi Somali Sheikhs keep on avoiding to talk about this alliance. Why Salafis don't like to talk about Islamic history. How long will the Salafi Somali Sheikhs make excuses for these type of alliances.

 

King Fahd's Speech

on the issuance of the

Basic Law of Governance

 

The Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques (may God protect him), on the occasion of the issuance of the Basic Law of Governance, the Law of Majlis Ash-Shura and the Law for the Provinces, gave the following speech to his fellow citizens of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia:

 

 

In the name of God, the Most Merciful, the Most Compassionate.

 

Praise be to God, Lord of the Universe, and may peace and blessings be upon the most noble of the prophets, Our Prophet Mohammed, and upon all his family and companions!

 

 

 

Fellow citizens,

 

If God intends good to come to a people, He will guide them to what is most appropriate. God has favored us greatly, beyond measure, and the greatest favor of all is Islam. If we fully adhere to this religion, we shall never go astray. Rather we shall be guided in happiness because Almighty God has told us this, as has His Messenger the Prophet (PBUH). Historical facts and reality stand as witness in this regard.

 

 

 

Muslims have been happy with the Sharia of Islam ever since it came to rule their affairs and daily lives.

In modern history, the first Saudi State was founded on the basis of Islam more than two and a half centuries ago, when two pious reformers, Imam Mohammed Bin Saud and Sheikh Mohammed Bin Abdul-Wahhab (may God have mercy on their souls!) committed themselves to it.

 

 

 

This State was set upon a clear course of politics and government. It was committed to propagating Islam and to fostering a sense of community. This is the course of Islam, the Creed and the Sharia. Ever since the establishment of this righteous state, the people of the country have enjoyed happiness, security and unity of opinion. They have been living in harmony and fraternal cooperation, after a prolonged period of fear and division.

 

 

 

The Creed and the Sharia being the basic principles on which this State has risen, the application of these principles has manifested itself in full adherence to the correct Islamic course in the Creed, its doctrine, in the Propagation of Islam (Da'wa), in the enjoining of good and the forbidding of evil, in its judicature and in the relationship between the ruler and the ruled. As such, the Saudi State has become a distinguished model of politics and government in modern political history. The adoption of this course has continued in all subsequent stages as successive rulers have continued to adhere to the Islamic Sharia. And it is that bounty of God, which he grants to whom He wishes.

 

 

 

This continuous following of the course of Islam is based on three facts:

 

 

 

The fact that the basis of this course of Islam is fixed and is not subject to change or alteration. God the Almighty said, We have, without doubt, sent down the Message: and we will assuredly guard it (from corruption)" (XV, 9).

 

 

 

The fact that the following of the course of Islam should be constant. God the Almighty said: “ Then We put thee on the (right) way of Religion; so, follow thou that (way) and follow not the desires of those who know not†. (XL,18)

 

 

 

The fact that the rulers of this country remain loyal to Islam in different circumstances and conditions. Loyalty to Islam, the Creed and the Sharia, continued during the era of King Abdulaziz (May God have mercy on him!). He founded the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and unified it on the same course, despite difficult historical circumstances and the problems he faced during

 

the process of unifying the country.

 

 

 

In accordance with this course, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia was founded on the following bases:

 

 

 

• The unity of faith which makes the people devote worship to God alone with

 

no partners and live in dignity and in honor.

 

• The Islamic Sharia which protects life, preserves rights and regulates the relationship between the ruler and the ruled, regularizes dealings among members of the community and safeguards public security.

 

• The undertaking of the Propagation of Islam (Da'wa) and its dissemination, since the Propagation of Islam in one of the most important functions of an Islamic state.

 

• The founding of an environment, free of evil deeds and deviations to help people act honestly and righteously -- this task is achieved by encouraging good and discouraging evil.

 

• The achievement of the unity of faith which is the basis for political social and geographical integrity.

 

• The adoption of the means and ways leading to progress, in order to achieve an advance which eases people's lives and protects their livelihood in the light of the guidance and standards of Islam.

 

• The practice of consultation (shura) just as Islam has commanded and praised whoever undertakes it, since Islam has ranked practicing consultation (shura) among the qualities of the believers.

 

• The Two Holy Mosques shall remain inviolate for visitors and worshipers, as the two were intended to be by God, safe from all that hinders worship in the best way and the performance of the minor and major pilgrimages (Umra and Hajj). The Kingdom shall undertake this duty in fulfillment of our duty towards God and in service of the community of Islam.

 

• The defense of the faith, the Holy Shrines, the homeland, the citizens and the State.

 

 

 

These are the grand bases on which the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia has been established.

 

 

 

During the reign of King Abdulaziz, political systems bases on this course emerged, due to the developments of modern life. In the year 1373 H, in view of the evolution of the State and the expansion of its responsibilities, King Abdulaziz (may God have mercy on him!) issued a decree for the formation of a council of ministers. This council is still in operation in accordance with the law issued then and with amendments that followed. This course is still followed to this day, by the grace and guidance of God. Therefore, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia has never known the so-called "constitutional vacuum." The literal meaning of "constitutional vacuum" is that the State has no guiding principles or binding frame of reference in the fields of legislation and regulation. The Kingdom has never witnessed such a phenomenon in its entire history because it has been ruled according to the guiding principles, the binding rules and the clear fundamentals to which judges, ulema and all others employed by the State refer.

 

All the organs of the State currently function according to laws which stem from the Islamic Sharia, and they are regulated by it. Thus it is not from vacuum that we are today enacting the following laws in new forms: the Basic Law of Government, the Law of Majlis Ash -Shura and the Law for the Provinces. These three laws codify existing practices and embody what is already in operation. These statutes are subject to reconsideration and amendment in accordance with what the Kingdom's circumstances and interests require. The three laws were formed on he basis of the Islamic Sharia, reflecting our genuine traditions, righteous values and cherished customs.

 

 

 

Compatriots:

 

The source of the Basic Law (of Governance) as well as its foundation is the Islamic Sharia. This law has been guided by the Islamic Sharia in defining the nature, the objectives and the responsibilities of the State, as it has in defining the relationship between the ruler and the ruled on the basis of brotherhood, consultation, friendship and cooperation.

 

 

 

The relationship between citizens and state officials is founded on solid and deep-rooted traditions, compassion, mutual respect and loyalty stemming from the sincere and firm convictions in the hearts of this country's people generation. There is no difference between the ruler and the ruled. They are equal before the law of God, and they are all equal in their love of this homeland and in their eagerness to maintain its safety, unity, pride and progress. Whoever is in charge has obligations as well as rights. The relationship between the ruler and the ruled is first and foremost governed by the Sharia of God as it has come (to us) in His Holy Book and in the traditions (Sunna) of His Messenger (PBUH). The Basic Law of Governance has been inspired by these sources. It has sought to apply them fully in the relationship between the ruler and the ruled, in compliance with all that has been revealed through our true religion in this respect.

 

 

 

As for Majlis Ash-Shura law, it is based on Islam both in name and content, in response to God's words:

 

 

 

"Those who respond to their Lord, and establish regular prayer, who (conduct) their affairs by mutual consultation; who spend out of what we bestow on them for sustenance" (XL, 38).

 

 

 

"It is part of the mercy of God that thou dost deal gently with them. Wert thou severe or harsh-hearted, they would have broken away from about thee: so pass over (their faults) and ask for (God's) forgiveness for them; and consult them in affairs (of moment). Then, when thou hast taken a decision, put they trust in God. For God loves those who put their trust (in Him)"

 

(III, 159)

 

 

 

We have already mentioned on several occasions that the country witnessed the establishment of Majlis Ash-Shura long ago. Throughout this period, shura (consultation) activities continued in many and various ways. The rules of the Kingdom maintained consultations in times of need with ulema (religious scholars) and advisors.

 

 

 

The new Law of the Majlis Ash-Shura provides for the modernization and development of an existing system through the consolidation of the Majlis's framework. It also provides vehicles for more efficiency, better organization and vitality in order to achieve the desired objectives. The capable members of this Majlis will be carefully chosen so as to contribute to the development of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and its progress, taking into consideration the public interest of the homeland and its citizens. While Majlis Ash-Shura undertakes, God willing, general consultation at the level of the State, we ought not to ignore the consultations currently practiced within the State's organs through the specialized councils and committees. These structures ought to remain active so that their work will complement that of Majlis Ash-Shura.

 

 

 

The country has recently witnessed tremendous developments in various fields. These developments have called for a renewal of the general administrative system in the country. To meet this need and interest, the Law of the Provinces has come to allow for more organized action through appropriate administrative measures, and to upgrade the level of administration in the provinces of the Kingdom.

 

 

 

Compatriots:

 

These laws have been drawn up after a meticulous and patient study carried out by a select group of learned men of sound knowledge and experience. Full consideration was given to the Kingdom's distinguished position in the Islamic world, and to its traditions and customs, as well as its social and cultural conditions. Therefore these laws have sprung from our realities, taking into account our traditions and customs, while adhering to our true religion. We are confident that these laws will, with the help of God, assist the State in realizing every Saudi citizen's hopes for the welfare and progress of this homeland and his Arab and Islamic nation. The Saudi citizen is the base for the advancement and development of this homeland, and we shall not spare any effort to ensure his happiness and well-being.

 

 

 

The world, which is following the development and progress of this country, greatly admires its domestic policy, which safeguards the citizen's security and well-being. It also admires this country's foreign policy, which seeks to establish relations with other countries and contribute to world peace.

 

 

 

The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is the sanctuary of the Muslim Shrines and a site for the Hajj (the major pilgrimage), the Umra (the minor pilgrimage) and the Visit (to the Prophet's Mosque). It has a special place in the hearts of all Muslims. God has honored this State with the Custody of the Two Holy Mosques, to facilitate the performance of the pilgrimages and the visit to the Mosque of the Prophet (PBUH). We have done our utmost to expand the Two Holy Mosques and develop the other holy sites. The State offers full assistance to all guests bound for the Holy Places. We thank God and ask Him to continue granting us more grace to go on serving these places and all Moslems wherever they may be.

 

 

 

The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia has adhered constantly to the Islamic course in government, in judicature, in the Propagation of Islam (Da'wa), in education, in enjoining good and forbidding evil, as well as in the performance of God's rites. The rulers and state officials have adhered to that course. The people, too, have adhered to it in their daily lives.

 

 

 

Islam is a way of life. There can be no neglecting what has been included in God's Book (The Holy Qur'an), what has been authenticated of the Prophet's traditions, or what Muslims have unanimously agreed on. Our constitution in the Kingdom is the Holy Book of God, which is infallible, and the Traditions (Sunna) of His Messenger, who does not speak irresponsibly. Whatever we disagree on we refer back to them. They both are arbiters on all laws issued by the State.

 

 

 

Rulers and ulema (religious scholars) in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia have cooperated, and still are cooperating and helping each other. Similarly, the people have been, and still are, supportive of, cooperative with and obedient to their leadership according to the legal pledge of allegiance (bay'a) rendered by the ruled to the rulers.

 

 

 

The ruler fulfills his obligations with regard to the implementation of the Sharia, the establishment of justice among the people and the defense of legitimate individual rights. The society, therefore, enjoys security, stability and prosperity.

 

 

 

In the past and present, the Kingdom, has been and is committed to the Sharia and to implementing it vigorously and firmly in all its domestic and foreign affairs. With the help of God, it will remain keenly committed to the Sharia.

 

 

 

With the help of Almighty God, we hold firm to Islam and advise each other, generation after generation, ruler after ruler. As promised by God, there can be no harm done to us by those who oppose us. We do not close the door on any aspect of modernization, so long as it does not conflict with our Islamic heritage and identity.

 

 

 

The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is an Arab Islamic State. All matters that concern Arabs and Muslims will be its concerns. The State promotes their solidarity and their unity of opinion and contributes, with all its capabilities, to their welfare. Past events and circumstances have indeed witnessed the truth of its stances and the fulfillment of its commitments towards the Arab Nation and the Islamic Nation as well as towards other international obligations.

 

 

 

Compatriots:

 

With the help of God, we will continue upon our Islamic course, cooperating with those who want good for Islam and Moslems, and determined to consolidate and disseminate the religion of God and to ensure progress for this country and happiness for its people. We ask Almighty God to bestow on our people and on the Arab Nation and the Islamic Nation goodness, righteousness, progress, prosperity and welfare. Praise be to God, by whose grace all righteous deeds are done!

As you can see Bilan there is no difference between the Saudi government or the Saudi Sheikhs.

[Sakina]

The Prophet said: ‘‘The person must obey his ruler in whatever he loves, and in whatever he hates, in ease and in hardship, in willingness and un-willingness; except if he is commanded to disobey Allaah. So if he is commanded to disobey Allaah, then he should not listen, nor should he obey.’’ Related by al-Bukhaaree (4/203)

Salafi Da'wa doesn't this contradict the existence of the Salafi and Saudi goverment since they revolted against a muslim leader who perfomed his daily prayers?

[VisiT]

Groups like the Salafis provide the moral foundations upon the subjugation of Muslim masses is conducted. Their moral justification of the most corrupt leaders involves the discouragement of questioning. It is as if a Muslim is kept ignorant intentionally to ensure that that Muslim's never acquires an understanding of any sort. This is more like the cripling of the Muslim mind, or the disuse of thought in personal affairs. He/she can't speak against what he/she percieves to be wrong, because if he/she speaks they have committed a sin.

 

Or they cannot question the authority because it is a taboo. Or if the authority has a sort of democracy, they cannot oppose that state, while at the same time they cannot be part of it. In others they cannot do anything. They must thus stay down and subjugated 'cos that has more ajir than doing other things. This is plain nonsense really. This group (Salafis) should be disposed of, that is, if the Muslim Ummah prefers dignity to indignity.

[abu_toraab]

As-salam Alaykum,

 

One must know that Islam is not according to their own desires. One should not mock the salafis because they do not go against rulers. Rather, if anybody is to be mocked, it should be those that follow their opinion over the rules we have to follow in islam.

 

Furthermore, while people are talkinga bout somalia and their dictator, and iran etc., when Abdullah ibn Zubayr fought against Al-Hajjaj, the tabie'n that came after agreed that he was WRONG. So, if that is the case for that Salaf, one should really re-check their opinion before critizing the salafis. Allahu Musta'an

[VisiT]

W/Salaam. ^ But you do not refute the charge that the salafis are protectors of leaders that are collaborative with non-Muslims (who can be classed direct enemies), than they do with Muslims? Shall we cover our eyes about this, to remain good Muslims?

 

PS: Welcome to the forum.