Paragon Posted May 20, 2008 ^^That's good news. Clever thing to say by Xoogaga. Kismaayo could do with less attention for the time being. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Laba-X Posted May 20, 2008 Kismaayo will soon be under the control of Al-Shabaab, insha-Allah. Talks are currently underway between the Odayaal of Kismaayo and its vicinity and the Al-Shabaab men. The elders have shown strong support for their Muslim brethren and are said to be willing to accept their presence. As for Huuraale, Huuraalena hadalkiisa daa heeryadii tuurye Wuxuu hungureeyaba loo diid dhulkuu ku hammiyi jireye Harrad iyo kulayl baa ku dilay hul iyo buur dheere Meel uu haad ka kacay buu raqaa haradaa marane Wuxuuse soo hugmaba weligii ma gaaro haybad iyo guule ...nin maanta wax laga filayo ma aha! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted May 20, 2008 It seems Horns militia have roadblocks made out of cement, while those in other parts are road blocks made of twigs. If they spare one militia and attack others it means nothing but the usual clan politics, which is great that they are coming from the shadows. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baashi Posted May 20, 2008 Kismayo residents have been spared. Kudos to both sides! No need for another pointless civil war. Why? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gabbal Posted May 21, 2008 Well the thing is Duke, while the isbaaro in Jilib are used as mechanism to rob and even rape unarmed travel ors, the ever so often isbaaro in Kismaayo is used as a political weapon. Essentially as a conduit for political force, a politico-economic embargo of sorts. It is sad but reflective of the greater Somali society in Somalia today. Even so, that is the main difference between the two. Like I told you before, there are two competeing ideologies in Kismaayo today and either group uses the isbaaro as a leverage when the other group is seen as getting their way more. This interesting article came out today backing what I have told you before: Ali said local leaders were caught up in the fight between the Transitional Federal Government (TFG) and insurgents, mostly loyal to the Union of Islamic Courts (UIC). The UIC, which was in control of much of south-central Somalia, was ousted by combined Ethiopian and TFG forces in December 2006. He said if an administration was set up and one side or the other saw it as "pro-UIC or TFG, then it is doomed before it even begins work. That is why it is taking so long to come up with one. They want to make sure that neither side is offended." IRIN This is why, I presume, the ICU and its splinter groups want to stay away from Kismaayo. Ultimately they hope a natural solution favoring them solves itself out. The possibility is certainly there. What would they gain by meddling other then giving power to the group opposing them who will try to use outside meddling to play upon clannish suspicions? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gabbal Posted May 21, 2008 The secondary group in Jamaame has already dispersed after forcing peace between the two hostile groups there: Dhanka kale, wararka ka imaanaya magaalada Jamaame ayaa sheegaya in xoogagii shalay soo gaaray degmadaasi ay isla markiiba isaga baxeen magaalada, iyaga oo la sheegay inay dib ugu noqdeen goobahii ay markii hore ka yimaadeen. Xoogagaasi ayaa tiradoodu la sheego 180 oo ku hubeysanaa laba gaadiidka dagaalka iyo mid xamuul ah sida ay xaqiijiyeen dadka degaanka. Gedonet Again, as my update showed, the whole episode was take out of context by the usual Somali ku tiri ku teen. No organized entity exists in the Jubba Valley that can withstand the Kismaayo militia, if Allah (swt) does not say otherwise. The good Shiekh Ibraahim Shukri came, explained the objective of the groups, and in turn succeeded in getting the confidence of the Kismaayo group. The episode ceased to exist after that point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dhubad. Posted May 21, 2008 I am glad all-out war has been avoided, war between brothers is not necessary this time especially when the country is occupied. Hornow, is Mohamed Wali Sheekh Nur in somewhere in Gedo? Also, do you know what happened to those Al-shabaab guys who went to Buurdhuubo? Thanks for the update. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xoogsade Posted May 21, 2008 Originally posted by HornAfrique: quote:Originally posted by Xoogsade: If Horn's last report is the latest on the ground, I guess I have no reason to be Euphoric. Waa dadaan meelna raacsanayn oo dantooda/dakhligooda ilaashada barre and his boys. Xoog, adeer Xamar baa gantaal Xabashi gubay ee Kismaayo miyaad sidaa la jeclaan lahayd? Maxay faa'iido u tahay aanan ka ahayn barakac iyo xasuuq shacbi ku jiraane kuwii kasoo cararay Xamar? Good point bro. My view is that if the powers that be failed to deliver what people need, an alternative should be welcome. Dadka magaalada hadday ku qanacsan yihiin xukunka meesha ka jira, fine with me. That is all saxib. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Allamagan Posted May 21, 2008 The common sense had prevailed at last and the camouflaged evil forces from within Al-shababs were subdued and undermined by the majority (true believers of Islam) within the resistances who knew that there never been conections between TFG/Ethiopians and the Kismayo Rulers, Duke's favorite team If Al-shabaabs are serious about to hunt down amharos and their collaborators, well they know where to find them but not in Kismayo or Gedo, I say. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted May 22, 2008 ^^^Adeer you are mistaken, I dont even consider this clan militia a team in the sense of the secessionists and clan courts, they are far dumber. Let them clear the roadblcoks then maybe we can call them a team. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaylbaro Posted May 24, 2008 Maxaa kala socotaa kulankii ka dhacay duledka Kismayo ee (Al-Shabaab,Maxkmadaha iyo Beesha *****? Warar laga helayo ilo xogogaal ah oo ku sugan degaanka Waamo oo kala duwan iyo xubno ka tirsan ka qayb galayaashii kulanka ayaa faahfaahin kooban ka bixiyey shir lagu qabtay duleedka Kismaayo ee tuulada Kamsuma. Kulankan oo dhexmaray madaxa kooxda Al-shabab ee Juboyinka oo uu hogaminayey Fu’ad Shangole, madaxa kooxda Maxkamadaha oo uu horkacayey nin aan si rasmiya magaciisa loo aqoon laakiin loogu yeero Abuu Muslin iyo xubno ka tirsan kooxda maamusha Kismaayo oo ka mid yahay Xasan Maxamed Cali (Xasan Dheere) iyo xubno kale oo ka mid ah waxgaradka beesha [magac qabiil]. Shirkaan oo lagu falan-qeeyey arrimo kala duwan oo ku saabsan xaalada dalku marayo ayaa sida la sheegay ay ka soo ifbaxayaan heshiis hoosaad saddex geesood ah oo dhexmaray dhinacyada kor ku xusan, waxaa kaloo la sheegay in kulankaan khadka telephone-ka kaga qayb galeen madaxda isbaheysiga oo ku sugan Asmara kuwaas oo dhaliyey in halkaas afgarad ka curiyaan. Xubnaha ka socday beesha ka arrimisa Kismayo ayaa kulankaas ku codsatey in lala heshiiyo iyadoo la og yahay in waqtiyadii la soo dhaafay la kala aragti duwanaa, Aakhirkiina waxaa la sheegay in lagu heshiiyey qodobada ay ka mid yihiin kuwa hoos ku qoran: 1. In xiriir bog Cusub loo furo Isbahaysi xanbaarsan kooxaha kor ku xusan 2. In gacan ku haynta degmada Kismaayo aan lagu fara-gelin kooxda imminka gacanta ku haysa ee ka soo jeedda beesha Sede. 3. In mabda’a ahaan la isla qaatay in si wadajir ah looga hortago lalana dagaallamo DFS iyo taagerayaasheeda ciidanka Ethiopia. 4. In dhaqaalaha ka soo baxa dekedda Kismaayo 3 qaybood loo kala qaato : kuwaas oo helayo Saamiyo is’leg ama isu dhow (Alshabab: 30%, Maxkamadaha :30%, kooxda gacanta ku haysa Kismaayo 40%). 5. In si wadajir ah ciidan loo wada abaabusho si looga hortago xoogga ka soo horjeeda ee DFS iyo ciidanka Ethiopia. 6. In la iska kaashado dagaallada lagula jiro DFS iyo ciidanka Ethiopia ee gobollada dhexe iyo Muqdisho. 7. In warbaahinta laga sheego mowqifka Alshabaab iyo Maxaakimta in aysan duullan ku ahayn degaanka Kismaayo si loo soo jiito shacabka beesha Sede. Kooxaha Maxkamadaha iyo al-Shabaab ayaa sidoo kale kulankan ku dalbadey in Barre Hirale magalada Kismayo ka baxo si ay meesha ugu saaraan xubnihii kula dagaalamey Koonfurta Somalia. Barre Hiraale ayaa ahaa Wasiirka Gashaandhiga xiligiii Maxaakiimta lagaga adkaadey dagaalada Koonfurta Somalia. Haddaba haddii heshiiskani hirgalo, wuxuu dhabar jab ku yahay DF iyo taagerayashoda ciidanka Ethiopia, waxayna abuuraysaa mucaaradad xoog leh oo kaga soo fool leh gobollada Jubboyinka oo ah goob muhiim ah, dhaqalaha ka soo baxana lagu socodsiin karo wax badan. Dhinaca kale heshiiskaan ka dhacay duleedka Kismayo waxaa uu sidoo kale dhabar jab ku yahay siyaasiyiinta Sede oo ku doodi jirey in ay ka soo horjedaan kooxaha dowlada iyo ciidamada Ethiopia la dagaalamaya kuwaas oo badankood la sheegey in ay fadhiyaan Barsada Meles Zenawi. Warbixin horey uga soo baxdey ururka midowga Afrika qaybtiisa amniga ayaa lagu sheegey in dakhliga dekada magaalada Kismayo lagu maalgaliyo xeryo koxaha dowlada ka soo horjeeda ku leeyihiin gobolka Shabeelaha Hoose. [ May 24, 2008, 02:47 PM: Message edited by: Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar ] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar Posted May 24, 2008 The xaaraan kunaax moooryaan militia that forcibly occupies that city will do anything to keep their xaaraan loot. Mise Xabashi alliance haka dhigtaan, mise Indhamadoowe isbaheysi hala galaan, mise Shabaabkaan ally haka dhigtaan, only xaaraanta kasoo gisho dekedaas iyo dhirta la gooynaayo dhuxusha laga dhigaayo la dhoofinaayo u daran. Alshabaab iyo Maxkamadaha should not be enticed by xaaraan kunaax militia, and should not and must not resort to preferences. Sida degmooyinka kale u galeen ha u galaan, since Kismaayo dhaamin Beledweyne, Jowhar, Diinsoor, Waajid, Balcad, Dhuusamareeb, Dhoobleey, to name a few; ama haba iska dhaafaan qorshahooda. Heshiiskaan would otherwise be viewed legitimazing those xaaraan kunaaxs' occupation of that city, a poor city and deegaan ka dhigeen saxaro since geedihii dhamaa wada gooyeen, jareen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gabbal Posted May 24, 2008 Says the man who labeled the resistance nothing but surwaal gaab wareersan. Boholkaad kasoo baxday ku laabo adeer, Al Shabaab talo iyo mid toona kuugu iman maysee. You were among the few who opposed the ICU even before the beginning. While some have come to oppose them based on politics, history will not forgot you were among the few to oppose them based on their religious ideology. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunguri Posted May 24, 2008 HornAfrique . Wixii aad Kismayo iyo agagaarkeeda ku aragtid madaxa qarxi . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kashafa Posted May 15, 2009 Kismaayo will never fall to these barbaric surwaalgaabs. Baidoa will never fall to these mindless lunatics. Merka will never fall to these fringe-puritans. Mogadisho will never fall to these anti-peace qaran-diids. :cool: Reality is hard to accept when you're a delusional peacenik or a despondent secular-nationalist witnessing the triumphant march of Islamist thoroughbreds all across Somalia. Denial is their first drug of choice. Qaylo-dhaan iyo in Gaalo madow iyo Gaalo Cad loo habar-wacdo is the second. Qul muutuu bi qaydhikum, yaa kilaab al-UN al-mascoorah. . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites