Somalia PM wants dialogue; 6,000 dead this year

[-Nomadique-]

I wonder how this will pan out.

 

Somalia PM wants dialogue; 6,000 dead this year

Sun 2 Dec 2007, 12:52 GMT

 

Somalia's new prime minister called on Sunday for dialogue with Islamist-led opponents to end an insurgency that a rights group says has killed nearly 6,000 civilians so far this year.

 

The Elman Peace and Human Rights Organisation said it had verified 5,930 deaths, 7,980 people wounded, and 717,784 displaced from their homes, in a year that saw the toppling of an Islamist movement, followed by an insurgency.

 

In some of his first public comments on the conflict, Somalia's new prime minister, Nur Hassan Hussein, said he was open to talks with an Eritrean-based opposition alliance.

 

"We are ready to speak with the Asmara group as long as they are ready to discuss with us," Hussein told Kenya's NTV news in an interview to be broadcast later on Sunday, referring to an opposition umbrella organisation based in Eritrea.

 

"We are not naming anyone from the opposition leaders, but we are ready for positive advice and criticism."

 

Somalia's interim government, formed in 2004 and due to hold elections in 2009, is under pressure from Western partners to reach out to the opposition.

 

Hussein's appointment at the end of November to replace sacked predecessor Ali Mohamed Gedi was viewed by many as an opportunity for reconciliation in a nation wracked by war since the 1991 overthrow of a dictator by warlords.

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[Faarax-Brawn]

If the TFG is genuine about rebuilding Somalia,it should definetly sit down with SH.Sharif,Laakin,I have a feeling that this is just all talk.

 

Meles Zenawi rules Somalia(Thru the TFG)--Lets see what he says about this.

 

Thanks Nom,

[NASSIR]

Nomadique, the TFG is willing to sit down and hold talks but will the Asmara group acquiesce to this invitation and diplomatic gesture by the new Prime Minister?

 

To lessen the further displacents and killings of those who are caught in the crossfire, the Asmara group must stop resorting to guerilla type warfare and join their brothers in building the state.

[Faarax-Brawn]

Originally posted by Caamir:

Nomadique, the TFG is willing to sit down and hold talks but will the Asmara group acquiesce to this invitation and diplomatic gesture by the new Prime Minister?

 

To lessen the further displacents and killings of those who are caught in the crossfire, the Asmara group must stop resorting to guerilla type warfare and join their brothers in building the state.

This is precisly what i was talking about. Its all gimmick on the part of the TFG. The only way the Asmara group will have dialogue,is when Ethiopia is out of Somalia. If the TFG is able to address this issue,i am pretty sure Sh.Shareef will negotiate with them. But will they will they? Will this PM address this issue? Doubt it!!

[Nephissa]

The only way the Asmara group will have dialogue,is when Ethiopia is out of Somalia. If the TFG is able to address this issue,i am pretty sure Sh.Shareef will negotiate with them. But will they will they? Will this PM address this issue? Doubt it!!

We all know getting Ethiopia out of Somalia is not a workable option for the TFG. Obviously a compromise of some sort has to occure at this point. It's about time the Asmara group gave peace a chance. If not for themselves, then for the rest of the Muqdishu civilians and forget about revenge, which is the road to more ruins. Already 6000 dead, how many more of their own people are they willing to sacrifice? It's crazy!

[Xoogsade]

^ Those who died will not be forgotten. And the TFG is already dead anyway. There will be no peace unless Xabashis leave, and once they leave, there is no place for the likes of A/Y and other murderers in Somalia.

[Faarax-Brawn]

Originally posted by Nephthys:

quote:

The only way the Asmara group will have dialogue,is when Ethiopia is out of Somalia. If the TFG is able to address this issue,i am pretty sure Sh.Shareef will negotiate with them. But will they will they? Will this PM address this issue? Doubt it!!

We all know getting Ethiopia out of Somalia is not a workable option for the TFG. Obviously a compromise of some sort has to occure at this point. It's about time the Asmara group gave peace a chance. If not for themselves, then for the rest of the Muqdishu civilians and forget about revenge, which is the road to more ruins. Already 6000 dead, how many more of their own people are they willing to sacrifice? It's crazy!

Cadeey,the problem is with THE Ethiopian presence.The safety of the leaders is not guaranteed when we have an enemy army in the streets of Mogadishu. Have you been reading the news? They kidnap,torture and kill leaders suspected of aiding the insurgency every day. Heck,they kill anyone who is sympathetic to the cause,You tell me what they will do with Sh.Shareef?

 

The problem is Ethiopia, and unless its addressed accordingly,nothing is moving forward.

[Thierry.]

Dialogue is not an option as long as Ethiopian forces are present in our land. If the TFG cannot meet that simple condition, then enjoy the remainder of the year. Because come 2009 the term will finish and the oven will over flow.

Saxiibka Nur Cadde should give fixed deadline of their departure like the other candidate Jimcalle did, if he cannot do that he will join the rest of the TFG stooges when nannie Meles leaves town.

[-Nomadique-]

Nephthys, the onus should be on the TFG to rectify this situation, they are the ones responsible for this chaos. The Asmara Alliance was formed in response to the crimes perpetuated by the Ethiopians/TFG against the Somali people. Theirs is the legitimate fight. The TFG on the other hand has well and truly proven itself to be morally bankrupt and politically incompetent. As the two brothers have mentioned above, the best hope for peace is remove the Ethiopians and the Somali collaboraters tethered to them.

[Nephissa]

Addeerayaaloo, do you honestly believe the Ethio military will leave Somalia? Even when you support something [war against TFG] whole-heartedly, you should consider the consequences first. Ehtiopia meel uma socoto, cid kastaa og!

 

At this point, both sides are Isma dhaanto iyo dhasheed. The Asmara group compared to the TFG is ofcourse a saint, nonetheless they both claimed innocent civilian lives. Waa u jeediin Ethio is creating havoc and turmoil to achieve their objectives of death and mayhem to innocent civilians. The Asmara group ilaa yowma-diin may dagaalamayaan? Ilaa Somalia dhulka la dhigo. :confused:

 

PS: FB, I follow the news addeer. Thanks.

[N.O.R.F]

We all know what the problem is (Occupation) and the longer the TFG refuses to acknowldge or act upon such notions the longer the suffering will go on. If they continue to simply refuse the need for the Ethios to leave then I'm afraid things will continue as they are.

 

The new PM needs a backbone. I hope it hasnt weakened with age.

 

ps the TFG are little quiet no?

[Che -Guevara]

We all know what the problem is (Occupation)

It is just one of the problems.

[Faarax-Brawn]

Originally posted by Nephthys:

Addeerayaaloo, do you honestly believe the Ethio military will leave Somalia? Even when you support something [war against TFG] whole-heartedly, you should consider the consequences first. Ehtiopia meel uma socoto, cid kastaa og!

 

At this point, both sides are Isma dhaanto iyo dhasheed. The Asmara group compared to the TFG is ofcourse a saint, nonetheless they both claimed innocent civilian lives. Waa u jeediin Ethio is creating havoc and turmoil to achieve their objectives of death and mayhem to innocent civilians. The Asmara group ilaa yowma-diin may dagaalamayaan? Ilaa Somalia dhulka la dhigo. :confused:

 

PS: FB, I follow the news addeer. Thanks.

Nimaan shanta kaa celin,adunka kaama celiyo. No resistance gets respect if you throw in the towel.They came by force,they will leave by force.

 

Imagine,if the glorious men of O*Gadenia just gave up their dream of liberating dhulka? Suppose,the Ethiopians were never met with any resistence? What would be of the people? You think they situation will be different? NO. The occupying army will still kill,torture and loot your land.

 

I say,let the TFG address the single most contentious issue of Ethiopian withdrawal,then there will be serious dialogue. Until then,it will be all doomed.

[Faarax-Brawn]

Originally posted by -:

quote: We all know what the problem is (Occupation)

It is just one of the problems.

What could be the other problem adeer? :confused:

[Che -Guevara]

^^The Somalis themselves with their retarded leaders, and masses who don't ever seem to appreciate their own plight. Dad aan isku naxeen cid unaxeesay ma jidho,hence the world's indifference to our plight.