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[DAD]

Now that he is captured, will things improve for the Iraqi people? And how about the attacks against the American forces, will that stop also?

[Macalin]

^^Waraa Where have U been??

 

Have u been Fighting in AFHGANISTAN??--welc bac

[General Duke]

DAD. The US even admitt that he was not head of the attacks

[DAD]

Waraa Lakkad intii aan maqnaa ayaad iga faa'ideysatay oo iga sii hormartay haye (post-count)? sxb walahi waa la iska mashquulsanaa, shaqo, school, iyo family ayaa lagu mashquulsanaa. Adigu maxaad heeysaa, faaraxtown kawaran?

 

 

Smithwesson, how about the documents they said they recovered from Saddam's hiding place that links him with the rebels? And they already said acting on those docs they have made several arrests of the rebel leaders.

[General Duke]

DAD, they said they found an A4 paper with minutes of a rebel meeting which was given to Sadam, and they made some arrest but according to the Independ newspaper in the UK there are more than 14 rebel groups only one had links to Sadam.

[DAD]

The worst thing that could happen to Iraq is if it become like Lebanon or Somaliya. So many rebel groups, clan war-fare, and so many other things and the Americans will be cought in the middle.

[General Duke]

Dad you are right, Iraq should never be another lebanon, but there must be resistance because people like Ahmed Chalabi and Co want to gain power by giving the countries resources to the Isrielis, Imaging Iraqs wealth used to destroy the aspirations of Palastine and Syria.

 

So the resistance must go on and a new Iraq should be created with the Sunni's not relegated to third class citizens. The occupiers only react to force.

[SoMa_InC]

sup yall

 

It seems yall r believing the western media. I heard that Saddam has been caught the same day the Iraqi information Minister was caught... they humilated him, depressed him even tortured him...PS DID U SEE THE MARK ON HIS FACE..ABOVE HIS EYEBROWS?....

 

And during all dat period of time many say that he was under torture, they also believe that he was lil bit paralised due to injections. ANYWAYZ GOD KNOWS BEST.

 

Do u think that they will find Saddam under that condition. Damn there is deep deep politics behind this...What makes u think that he would not shoot at that critical time?...I remember on one of his interviews he said that he will save the last for himself...meaning he will never ever surrender...

 

Anywayz i think the man was caught long tyme ago and the US has many motives of making his capture date on that date.

 

PS Whaz the diffrence between milisovic n saddam...they both killed many innocent ppl but the way there capture was presented to us was diffrent..why?

Peace.

[DAD]

Originally posted by Nasir:

I am glad that he got cought, the guy was like siyad bare :mad:

Hey i want to ask the nomads here a honest question. If the Americans came to Somaliya while Siyaad was in power overthrowing and then occupied the country. How would you feel about it? How would other MUSLIMS view this occupation of an Islamic country?

[DAD]

Originally posted by SmithNwestern:

Dad you are right, Iraq should never be another lebanon, but there must be resistance because people like Ahmed Chalabi and Co want to gain power by giving the countries resources to the Isrielis, Imaging Iraqs wealth used to destroy the aspirations of Palastine and Syria.

 

So the resistance must go on and a new Iraq should be created with the Sunni's not relegated to third class citizens. The occupiers only react to force.

There is no doubt about that Smith. The U.S probably has other motives for invading Iraq, and occupying it. And its not all for the FREEDOM (Xoriyo) for the Iraqi people. No, they probably want to make Iraq an example to other Arabs for what would happen to them if they disobeyed U.S policies.

 

But you have to realize though, this occupation is hurting the Americans more than its hurting the Iraqis. The Iraqis are used to living under these sort of conditions, and they now want to make it just as worse for the Americans.

[Saxardiid]

Originally posted by DAD:

Hey i want to ask the nomads here a honest question. If the Americans came to Somaliya while Siyaad was in power overthrowing and then occupied the country. How would you feel about it? How would other MUSLIMS view this occupation of an Islamic country?

i think it would have been the best thing that could happen to Somalia and somali people. Even if the Amaricans could came to our rescue by stopping siyad barre it would be fantastic for us and we wouldn't be here suffering in every where in this world.

[General Duke]

Dad I agree with you totally Americans cant a take the heat Politically the more deaths the more voters are put of by the present adminstartion and the Iraqi fighters know thats how to beat Bush make the incidents spectacular, shooting Black Hawks etc.

 

Sooyaal, the Americans went to Somalia once and people rebelled against them. This proves there is nothing better than Liberty.

[Section6er]

whether u like it or not. Saddam brought this on himself. He was a fool for invading kuwait, a fool for fighting 8 years of ****** war with Iran, and he was a fool for playing the U.N. Look at north korea, they agreed to alot of rules on paper presented by America and still continued to built they weapons. They played smart and now attacking North Korea is not easy. Iran is doing the same thing by inviting the U.N and this will deffinately keep the Americans at bay.

 

Saddam is a cold blooded murderer whether you want to admit it or not its up to you. Saddam deserved what he got. The Iraqis and all the Arabs never manage to rid themselves or dictitators cuase they are nothing but oxes. Look at everywhere in the world. If the people didn't like their leader, the people revolted. But only the arabs are unable to libarate themselves

[BN]

Saddam Hussein is a murderer, tyrant and a coward. He asked his people to shed their blood to fight the americans and HE surrenders without a fight. Cowering in a rat hole eating Mars bars The least he could of done was go down fighting like a man. For gods sake his 15 year old nephew DID !!! :mad: He doesnt deserve anyones sympathy or respect.

 

But iraqis arent ****** . They know that US/UK/UN sanctions killed 500,000+ children in iraq in the 1990's. But I doubt you will see any of those leaders on trial...at least not in this world.

[N.O.R.F]

US accused of double standards after granting Saddam prisoner-of-war status

By Robert Verkaik and Rupert Cornwell

17 December 2003

 

 

The US administration was accused of gross hypocrisy yesterday after granting Saddam Hussein the legal rights that for more than two years it has denied the 660 detainees held in Guantanamo Bay.

 

The treatment of Saddam as a prisoner of war under the terms of the Geneva Conventions and the promises he will be given a fair trial contrast sharply with the status of the "illegal combatants" picked up by the coalition forces in the war against terror.

 

The decision has been made by the Pentagon irrespective of whatever role Saddam may have had in orchestrating the resistance to the occupation, including the suicide bombings which have claimed the life of the UN representative Sergio Vieira di Mello and those of many Iraqi civilians. Insurgents have also killed almost 200 US soldiers since major combat ended in May.

 

While the Americans have consistently referred to the deposed dictator as a sponsor of world terrorism and guilty of crimes against humanity, the Guantanamo detainees still do not know the charges upon which they are being held.

 

Peter Carter QC, chairman of the Bar's human rights committee, said that the Americans and the Iraqi provisional council had guaranteed Saddam access to a lawyer, the right to be tried within a reasonable period and adequate facility to prepare his own defence. "As a prisoner of war they can only interrogate him for the purposes of a specific crime. I'm not sure that under international human rights laws they can even ask him about the whereabouts of weapons of mass destruction," said Mr Carter.

 

The category "illegal combatant" confers no such rights on the Guantanamo Bay detainees. Louise Christian, a lawyer representing some of the families of the detainees, said: "I think it's appalling that someone like Saddam Hussein, who many people believe has committed crimes against humanity, is enjoying a privileged status in relation to people who are not in that category at all and have no advocates to argue for them."

 

She added: "Human rights apply to everyone and I think it's right that Saddam should be given the benefit of a fair trial. But that right should also be afforded to those still being held in Guantanamo Bay."

 

Instead of flying Saddam to Camp X-Ray, the American authorities have wasted little time in in effect designating him a prisoner of war. The US Defence Secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, confirmed yesterday that Saddam was being accorded "the protections of prisoners of war". He defended the Pentagon's release of a videotape of Saddam after his capture, saying Iraqis needed to see proof he was "off the street, out of commission".

 

Mr Rumsfeld rejected charges that the videos breached the Geneva Conventions, which bar PoWs from being displayed publicly as objects of ridicule, saying that "by a reasonable definition of the Geneva Convention", Saddam had not been treated in a demeaning fashion.

 

Some US officials have suggested Saddam's PoW status could yet be revoked. But international human rights lawyers say that is now impossible. Yves Sandoz, an academic and a former senior legal adviser at the International Committee of the Red Cross, said Saddam benefited from protection under the Geneva Conventions as the head of his country's army.

 

"It's very clear in the Geneva Conventions that they apply to specific people, and to Saddam Hussein as supreme chief of the armed forces, from the moment he is captured and until he is freed," said Mr Sandoz. "A prisoner of war can be sentenced for war crimes, that's clear, and he can be prosecuted for crimes committed before the conflict."

 

Lawyers said the prospect of a public trial could backfire on the West if Saddam decides to call evidence of international compliance in his bloody war with Iran. He might also employ the defence used by the prominent Nazi Hermann Goering at the Nuremberg war crimes trial, when Goering argued that it was not a crime to wage an aggressive war.

 

Further questions are also being raised about the competence of the Iraqis to conduct a fair trial in accordance with international standards.

 

Stephen Jakobi, the director of Fair Trials Abroad, said the Iraqis were ill-prepared to hold a war crimes trial on the scale now being proposed.

 

Some Muslim lawyers questioned the legality of Saddam's detention. Hussein Majali, president of the Jordanian Bar Association, issued a statement yesterday making it clear that he considers the former Iraqi president to have been unlawfully deposed in April, and unlawfully captured by US forces over the weekend.

 

"The Iraqi President Saddam Hussein is the legitimate president of Iraq because the [uS-led] occupation does not have any legality," argued Mr Majali. "The Jordanian Bar Association considers President Saddam Hussein as the head of the resistance to liberate a dear part of our occupied Arab land."

 

He urged the world, and Arab leaders in particular, to provide Saddam with "the legitimate protection he deserves as a leader of a liberation movement against occupation".