Cowke Posted July 21, 2010 Armed Somali Militia Seeks to Establish Islamic Emirate in Puntland The Saudi daily Al-Sharq Al-Awsat, published in London, reports on a crisis in northeastern Somalia between the government of Puntland and an armed Islamic organization headed by Mohamed Sa'id Atam, currently holed up in the mountains of the Gal Gala region, which seeks to establish an Islamic emirate. Puntland has been an autonomous region since 1998, and up to now has been fairly stable compared to central and southern Somalia, though it is a center of pirate activity. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Koora-Tuunshe Posted July 21, 2010 Puntland iyo Atam heshiis ayay galeen. Everything was going fine until Melez Zenawi called Faroole and have him terminate the deal. Atam was ready to turn his weapons to his elders, and have puntland provide him with security. Waxaan aad ula yaabay maanta, in shir ka dhacay xarunta dowlada hoose ee magaalada Boosaaso. Dowladii waxay leedahay beel walba ciidan ha keento oo aan ku duulno Atam. Dagaalkan shisheeyaha hagaaya, hadhow yaan laga shalaynin! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Somalia Posted July 21, 2010 ^ Waryaa terrorist empathizer ayaad noqotay miyaa? I like that very much. Slowly, where your true allegiance lies is creeping up to the fore. If only your so-called elders were as unambiguous as you sound now, then we wouldn't be having this discussion, would we? As an aside; Faroole has had many shortcomings so far, but the most far-reaching one of all is his failure to effectively deal with the security and safety of the state. This Atam issue, is but one proof of his failures, and if he does not vigorously humble Atam and if he allows his authority to be questioned as head of state in this matter, then he doesn't deserve to finish his current tenure, let alone a second term in office. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garaad Bari Posted July 21, 2010 Sometimes its very ironic the way some fox in this forum present their opinion. before Mr Faroole tries to fight Atom and his Mmilitia,,he should establish his athority in region. in whole sanaag region there there is no local goverments, no tax is collected, there is no police,,,, salaries for public sectors like schools and hospitals are ran by locals. fundings from NGOs for the region is aften being diverted to Garowe, Qardho and Bari. there is hardly any presence of p/land admin in the region. n there was never being 1. so plse let us address the facts b4 emotionally speaking. Yes its true presence of Atom's millitia in the area serves neither the interest of the locals nor the whole region. Faroole shud win the heart of makharis by extending his admin to the region. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samafal Posted July 21, 2010 This elders should draw a lesson from Nabadoon Ahmed Diiriye and his Beelaha H...ye group. Alshabab used them against Abdullahi Yusuf out of clan sentiment. When Abdullahi was not there, they gave him and his group the middle finger. They are pure opportunist and know very well how to exploit clan grievances. Reer Sanaag out to be smarter than this and they should not allow the state to be threatened by people who do not have their interest at heart. Faroole and his interior minster Ilkajiir on the other hand are proving to be weak on this and shouldn't have let this issue drag this long. If there are any grievances this is not the time or the way to go about it. There are venues and ways that could be done. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Polanyi Posted July 21, 2010 Basically, this Sheikh Atam is one of the boys. Therefore, he should be left alone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted July 21, 2010 This elders should draw a lesson from Nabadoon Ahmed Diiriye and his Beelaha H...ye group. Alshabab used them against Abdullahi Yusuf out of clan sentiment. When Abdullahi was not there, they gave him and his group the middle finger. They are pure opportunist and know very well how to exploit clan grievances. Well said. Atam will end up bringing foreigners into this region if he is a member of the cult with no brain. Then the locals will suffer, not Faroole, nor Ilka-Jiir nor the their respective sub clans. The locals of Galgala will pay the heavy price if this is not ended by the community and the state working in tandem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalax Posted July 21, 2010 Garaad Bari , what has galgala got to do with sanaag when it's located in bari region? apart from eastern sanaag groups and western bari groups having connections. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Koora-Tuunshe Posted July 21, 2010 Mr. Somali.. you know where my allegiance lies. Runta ayaan ka hadley. Badbaadada iyo isku duubnida Puntlandna waa lama huraan. Laakiin sidaada madax caabud ma ahi. Adigoo kale waa lagu yaqaan, Allow yaa nin reer Sanaag ah ama reer Sool ah ka dhigo the head of the state, waxaad noqon lahayd Galmudug hadii aad madaxnimo ka heleysid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xudeedi Posted July 21, 2010 Libaahe: you’re a minority with an oppressed mind-set. You can try as hard as you want to convey the message that the secessionist clan has any presence in Sanaag but true facts can’t be distorted with a map you photo-shopped. I’ll remind you the observations of Richard Burton and his reference to your family as subjects of the Makhiri Sultanate. The discussion here is between two siblings in the same house-hold and does not concern you. Fact Check: The distance from Ceerigaabo to Bosaaso > than the triangle enclave Go and celebrate the secessionist election victory, oops i forgot that your even insignificant in the secessionist household. Miskiin from a village west of Ceerigaabo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalax Posted July 21, 2010 Xudeedi, oo haada maxad ka xanaaqday that galgala is in bari instead of sanaag lol? the only minority is you a whole group who rely on 1 minister aka rat teeth lol, and you are owned in erigavo . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted July 21, 2010 Faroole vs Atom is a false dual that will never take place... what Puntland needs is to strengthen local elders to address this concern , NOT to rush to a war. Billions of fake money got through Galkacyo airport, which is as lethal as challenging the authority with armed militia as this Atom man reportedly did...but no one suggested war at Galkacyo culprits…it just does not make sense policy wise. If the war declarations are true Faroole is overplaying his hand, creating a conflict of choice…his prior strategy has been commendable. He should rely on the elders as much as he can...in Africa there is no real authority and governance is forever fragile. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Somalia Posted July 22, 2010 Originally posted by Koora-Tuunshe: Mr. Somali.. you know where my allegiance lies. Runta ayaan ka hadley. Badbaadada iyo isku duubnida Puntlandna waa lama huraan. Laakiin sidaada madax caabud ma ahi. Adigoo kale waa lagu yaqaan, Allow yaa nin reer Sanaag ah ama reer Sool ah ka dhigo the head of the state, waxaad noqon lahayd Galmudug hadii aad madaxnimo ka heleysid. ^ Walaale, Galmuduga laftigeeda ayaan jeclahay iney mardhow ku soo biirto maamulka Puntland, waayo anoo nin reer mudug ah, nimankaas digirta dhiigooda ku shaqeeyo, waxaan aaminsanahay xaqiiqda markii la fiiriyo, iney iiga dhowyihiin adiga iyo reer bariga iyo reer nugaalka hada isku xagxaganaya buurta Galgala, waayo waa dad aanu nahay isku deegaan iyo isku dhaqan oo aan marnaba kala maarmin.. Taan labaad oo aad tiri,"sidaada oo kale madax caabud ma ahi", waxaan rabay inaan ka dhaho: Faroole dadka ayaa doortay, wadankuna dhowr talis ma yeelan karo. Waa ila haboontahay, sidaad tiri ina odey dhaqameedka iyo dawllada oo is kaashanaya ey arintaan galaan. Laakiin hadii laga diido, xal aan dagaal ahayn ma fursanayso. Markaas waxay noqonaysaa ina madaxweynaha taladiisa la raaco. Adiguna hadii aad qabiil u jeedid, oo aad iska dhaadhicicay in ATAM qabiil dartiis loola dirirayo, anigu ma'aaminsani taas oo Atam iyo Faroole waa labo nin oo aniga ii siman. Marka waxaan adiga ku su'aalayaa; ma waxaad rabtaa markuu Atam nabada ka diido dawllada iyo odeyaasha, uuna diido hubka inuu iska dhigo, uuna rabo in uu dhulkeena qarxiyo oo dagaalo iyo argagixiso ka dhaliyo, sida xamar oo kale-- taasi ma dan bey inoo tahay?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Zack Posted July 22, 2010 Originally posted by Koora-Tuunshe: Puntland iyo Atam heshiis ayay galeen. Everything was going fine until Melez Zenawi called Faroole and have him terminate the deal. Atam was ready to turn his weapons to his elders, and have puntland provide him with security. Unfortunately, this is true. Meles became the daddy of today's Somalis mini admins. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Koora-Tuunshe Posted July 23, 2010 Mr. Somalia, Saaxiib aniga iyo adiga isku dhinac ayaan nahay. Oo runtii ma doonayo Alshabaab in dhulkeena ay gasho, waayo waa dhib soo kordhay oo qudha. Laakiin hadii laga baydho sidii wax loo xalin jirey, iyadoo markii horeba shacabka deegaankan dan aan horey looga lahayn, hadii lagu sii daro in iyagii far lagu godo, oo la yiraahdo beeshaasi waa Alshabaab, miyaan la is oran karin in ay sidaasi noqon karto xalka kaliya oo u furan. Labo, maamuladii Puntland soo marey, maamulka kaliya ee difaaca lahaa wuxuu ahaa kii Mr. Yuusuf. Kaasina wuxuu difaac adag iyo amni ku yeeshey waxay ahayd inuu maalgaliyey amniga gobolada oo dhan, ma aha gobol qaas ah. Taas ayuu gafey maamulkan iyo kii ka horeeyey. Waxay bilaabeen nin jecleysi iyo beel jecleysi. Ma aha niman isu talin kara, lalana tashan kara. Waayo waa rag amar kale ku socda oo aan marna tooda raaci karin. Marka yaanan shacabka la beyl-hoofin. Shacabka deegaanka aad sheegtey iyagaa diyaar u ah in ay dagaal la galaan Alshabaab. Laakiin wax kalsooni ah kuma qabaan maamulka haatan ka jira meesha. Xalkana waxaa lagu heli karaa in Faroole kaashado shacabka deegaanka. Taasina wuu ku gacan seyrey. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites