NASSIR Posted February 28, 2010 The application of this word as a reference to a certain region draws offensive and hurtful undercurrents, and not considering its political ramification on our country is even worse, by the simple fact that the world powers and fishing and vulture companies, that used to dump toxic chemicals under the Somali waters, will justify their exploitative nature on our marine resources on the basis of this parochial security dilemma between SL & PL. We can not refer to a certain autonomous region as "pirates" not more than we can call the southern regions as "terrorists". This will only justify the current sovereign and human rights violations against our people. Because random incidents related to piracy on Puntland coast have been significantly reduced it is more of the socio-political cul de sac we know we have to deal with it and find a mix of traditional and modern mechanism for our long-standing conflict than of the relentless attacks of the real pirates. But how can we draw a legitimate map for our posterity when we the enlightened folks of the land are voluntarily doing the job for those states bent with colonial tendencies of the 20th century. The political placard image that Somaliland maintains---at the expense of its brethrens---as revisionists and agents of seperatism, has been counterproductive and embarrasing to the proud psyche of Somali nationalism and our history. And the outsiders, with the help of the biased international media, view pirates as Somalis and only Somalis. Should we thus reinforce their wrong perception of reality by calling ourselves pirates or do we have to point to the root causes that first led to its rise, now spread into southern regions and parts of northwestern regions? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cowke Posted February 28, 2010 Nassir. somali culture was always about looting camels. its nothing new!!! and nothing to be ashamed of!!! However the pirates are different, they don't harm somalis. Which I commend them for!!! As long as they dont get involved in the politics and cause more problems for somalis I personally don't have an issue with them. Their are pirates all around the world. Right next door yemen our brotherly region does exactly the same!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AfricaOwn Posted February 28, 2010 Its all fair I'll say. The pirates are able to dish it out as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thankful Posted February 28, 2010 I think the majority of us are better then childish name calling! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thankful Posted February 28, 2010 You alshabab supporters are hard to figure out! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ibtisam Posted February 28, 2010 Wait; You cry, don't call us names, then in the same thread you agree that 1) Burco people steal kids 2) Burco people accept Pedos in their society Yeah makes perfect sense to me, I really don't know why anyone will pick on you. :rolleyes: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sherban Shabeel Posted March 1, 2010 1. Long live the burcad badeed! 2. The name-calling in the politics section is nothing compared to the cloud of noxious unpleasantness that has recently descended upon the General Section. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NASSIR Posted March 1, 2010 Nomads, Better we get rid of the use of labels such as terrorists, pirates as a reflection of our political differences, in a public forum where even outsiders visit and glean an insight into our deepest distrust and hatred. You might not like PL's admin due to the SOOL or the artificial border issue but think of the complication this offensive label creates in light of the bigger picture. Ibtisam, Cawke's aberrant comments at times can be excused because it is limited to his person and he does not use labels that is internationally sensitive. But to the SL supporters and a few self-styled proponents are to. Larger extent uniform in its use and application. By contrast, majority of SOL members from PL refrain from borrowing our opponents' media generalization nor imitate to withdraw some potential benefits/support for their designated clan enclave, except looking at things from national perspective. Sherban, it's sad that loyalty to the nation has gone rock bottom in a rather desperate attempt to build a "nation" from one single clan. Lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaylbaro Posted March 1, 2010 Calling each other "Pirates" Or better say "calling us" sxb ..... U just need to stop the piracy in action then the name calling will be a history ,,,,,,, U should not worry about the names more than what is happening on the ground. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Qudhac Posted March 1, 2010 Sherban, it's sad that loyalty to the nation has gone rock bottom in a rather desperate attempt to build a "nation" from one single clan. Lol like pirateland right oops i mean puntland Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalax Posted March 1, 2010 Pirates of the Bunt: Dead Man's Chest lead by Captain - Cowke. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Qudhac Posted March 1, 2010 ^^^^ the pirate kid has gone mad, waar ka yar qaboojiya oo biyo madaxa kaga shuba Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abtigiis Posted March 1, 2010 What we have here is a bunch of petulant pirates asking us to call a spade not a spade but a soil redistribution implement. Since only the most dangerous pirates alone are here to discuss what they should be called and not called, Ibtisam, Shabeel and the rest must leave this club of ignominy so that they declare themselves 'proactive hosts of foriegn seafarers'. The only thing I want to request from the pirates here is to do something about the British couple they hold. If you want us to consider your request, sii daaya lamaanahaan: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites