BoiBoi Posted March 30, 2006 Excellent Post General Duke. Somaliland's independece is nothing more than a Dream. Here is an example: Spain - Basque Country, Catalunya, are Autonomous states, which have claimed independence in past. Britain - Northern Ireland, Scotland, are also Autonomuos States, which have claimed independence in the past. Iraq - Northern state of Kurdistan, another Autonomous State, which is claiming independence. Cyprus - a small island in the mediterranian which is divided in 2 One can go on and on...Somaliland is no exception. They will reatain a degree of autonomy, but they will NOT be independent. I'm not been harsh just realistict. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gordon Gekko Posted March 30, 2006 I agree with General Duke and Somalipride in their opinions regarding the current TFG of Somalia. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gordon Gekko Posted March 30, 2006 I would like to spin on BoiBoi's comment while also adressing this post to Xarago, Oodweyne: A countrys sovereignty is based on societal circumstances, foremost political. Somaliland and Somalia has in the international community (as well as national I might add) status as country and province respectively, since they both are in the same geographical region of the (currently anarchic) state of Somalia and thus (both) exist in a standardized and regulate form not only limited to script and speech but also including race, religion and culture. Having said this I could also mention that Somaliland do not have any specific distinctive standardization that would separate it from greater Somalia; No, "democratic elections", less fighting and political leaders desperately issuing contracts doesn't count an iota. In case you have been brainwashed I might also add that you are not ancestors of white british colonizers (the skin color is permanent and not due to a prolonged suntan). I find this twisted aspect of yours idolizing the province of Somaliland and extolling its virtues to the magnitude that you would call it a sovereign country while simultaneously critizing and ridiculing Somalia, utterly melodramatic. With all due respect to your passion for Somaliland though, I find it very fascinating to see such retrogressive thoughts of present day somalis. One of my theories is that there is a number of menthally ill somalis (some kind of post-war syndrome) in the diaspora that find temporary ease in spitting out the same agitating bullshit as you, at various cafés (and internet forums obviously) worldwide. Ultimately, I would love to hear more about you, the specific post-war diagnose of yours as well as the reasons for your immense marketing of, god forbid to be independent, Somaliland. in desperate wonder, The Somali Economist Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SOO MAAL Posted March 31, 2006 VIDEO: Somalia signs a memorandum of understanding with European Union Great News Somalia is returning to community of nations after a long absence Congratulations for Somali Government for job well done Jaylayni and odeyweyne don’t be disappointed by the huge success of Somali government in their quest of international support. On the contrary, your clan-faction (Somaliland) couldn’t accomplish in 15 years what Somali government done in 15 months. Because the world is not willing to recognize a clan-state in 21 century- the era of globalization EU Moves Closer to Somalia March 30, 2006, 10 hours, 30 minutes and 21 seconds ago. By Israel Rafalovich Brussels (AND) - The European Union has strengthened relations with Somalia and stepped up aid for the troubled country. European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso and development commissioner Louis Michel signed a memorandum of understanding with Somalia's president Abdullahi Yusuf; At a press conference in Brussels, commissioner Michel assured Somalis that the European Union had not forgotten their bloody domestic conflict. This memorandum sets out key principles which will govern the cooperation between Somalia and the European Union. It is hoped that Somalia's recently instated transitional institutions will provide the EU with partner for peace in the troubled region. The signed memorandum gives Somalia the political backing it needs and also recognises the transnational government as partner. But despite the transitional government Somalia remains a volatile and dangerous place. In recent weeks the lawless horn of Africa has experienced escalating violence. Last week 90 people were killed in Mogadishu following clashes between rival militia. The European Union executive hopes its latest memorandum will mark an important milestone towards the country's entry into ACP-EU partnership agreement. ACP-EU co-operation is based on a pact known as the Cotonou agreement, pact designed to tackel poverty through economic and trade partnership and improved financial cooperation. The commission has also mobilised a 200 million Euro for the Strategy for the Implementation of Special Aid Somalia(SISAS) and has allocated approximately 10-million per year in humanitarian aid. In April Commissioner Michel presents a 70-million Euro Somalia recovery program to member states. Belgium (AND) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N.O.R.F Posted April 3, 2006 What do you guys think of this editorial in the SL Times? The EU’s Warlordism EDITORIAL The European Commission’s announcement on last Wednesday of providing political support and 70 million Euros in aid for propping up the “Transitional Federal Government†of Somalia shows how the European Union’s policy for this region is completely estranged from the reality on ground. There are at least three main solid reasons why the EU’s decision embracing the TFG, is a great misunderstanding of the situation in Somalia and a clear misjudgment of the remedies that Somalia actually needs. First, the TFG hasn’t yet gained the trust of most Somalis who still view it as an entity crafted outside Somalia by foreign powers namely the EU and IGAD. That impression has been perpetuated by the consistent demands by Abdillahi Yusuf, the TNG president, for the deployment of foreign troops in the country to disarm the Somalis on his behalf (not to mention the notoriety Mr. Yusuf had earned among Somalis in the past as a power-thirsty dictatorial warlord). With Abdillahi Yusuf and his premier Ali Mohamed Geedi spending much greater time on attending regional and international conferences abroad than on addressing the imperative domestic problems existing at home, the impression that the TFG was an externally-led enterprise stuck in the minds of the overwhelming majority of Somalis. So how a government that has no credibility among its own people can be trusted with a multi-million aid package? Secondly, the TNG has since its formation on October 2004, been reluctant to initiate any reconciliation efforts whether at community, regional or national levels, claiming all the time that this issue was dealt with during the Nairobi peace talks. People get slaughtered by the hundreds in Mogadishu and the TFG doesn’t make the slightest move to mediate even a short term truce. Parliamentarians are called to meet in Baidoa and no attempts are made to explore the ways and means for realizing an enduring peace through reconciliation. By rewarding a government that obviously has no commitment whatsoever to make peace among its own people with € 70 million, the EU has in practical terms shown that it was interested only in a military solution of the crisis in Somalia through the deployment of foreign peace enforcers. Thirdly the disbursement of direct EU aid for the TNG will be tantamount to an endorsement by Brussels of Abdillahi Yusuf’s claims on Somaliland territories in eastern Sanag and Sool. By giving money and diplomatic support to a man who until now encourages his militiamen to make incursions into Somaliland and commit atrocities against its people, the EU has again chosen the option of siding with bellicosity rather than peace and democracy. No wonder that in Mogadishu, the EU has already earned itself the new name of “Somalia’s White Warlordâ€. -------------------------------------------------- What is the EU's agenda? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nuune Posted April 3, 2006 ^^^ To me, the person who wrote that article in SL Times was deeply saddened and was deeply dissapointed by the EU providing open-hand aid to the TFG Yeey(Somalia) and not to UDUB Riyaale(Somaliland) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Allamagan Posted April 4, 2006 Honestly, these pics and news from Bruxels are nothing but a sight for the sore eyes. am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N.O.R.F Posted April 4, 2006 Nuune, i think the article holds alot truths whether its written by SL Media or not. E.G With Abdillahi Yusuf and his premier Ali Mohamed Geedi spending much greater time on attending regional and international conferences abroad than on addressing the imperative domestic problems existing at home, the impression that the TFG was an externally-led enterprise stuck in the minds of the overwhelming majority of Somalis. So how a government that has no credibility among its own people can be trusted with a multi-million aid package? Secondly, the TNG has since its formation on October 2004, been reluctant to initiate any reconciliation efforts whether at community, regional or national levels, claiming all the time that this issue was dealt with during the Nairobi peace talks. People get slaughtered by the hundreds in Mogadishu and the TFG doesn’t make the slightest move to mediate even a short term truce. Parliamentarians are called to meet in Baidoa and no attempts are made to explore the ways and means for realizing an enduring peace through reconciliation. Any comments anyone? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gordon Gekko Posted April 4, 2006 I wonder which organization or entity that keeps all these opinion polls in Somalia adressing all these statements regarding TFG recognition/hostility. Can anyone name the source of these assertions? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites