General Duke Posted February 6, 2006 Iranian paper launches Holocaust cartoon competition By Simon Freeman and agencies Iran’s biggest-selling newspaper has waded into the Muhammad controversy by launching a competition to find the 12 "best" cartoons about the Holocaust. Farid Mortazavi, graphics editor for Tehran's Hamshahri newspaper, said that the deliberately inflammatory contest would test out how committed Europeans were to the concept freedom of expression. "The Western papers printed these sacrilegious cartoons on the pretext of freedom of expression, so let’s see if they mean what they say and also print these Holocaust cartoons," he said. Karen Pollock, chief executive of the Holocaust Educational Trust, said that victims of the Holocaust and their families were growing used to insults from Iran. "It's just very sad," she told Times Online. Iran’s regime is supportive of Holocaust revisionist historians, who maintain that the slaughter of Europe’s Jews during the Second World War was invented or exaggerated to justify the creation of Israel on Palestinian territory. President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad courted international denunciation recently when he argued for Israel to be "wiped off the map". The President's vitriolic attacks on Israel have further soured relations with the West, already at loggerheads over the republic's nuclear research programme. Mr Mortazavi said that tomorrow's edition of the paper would invite cartoonists to enter the competition, with gold coins as prizes for the 12 winning artists -- the same number of cartoons that appeared in the conservative Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten lighting the touchpaper for fury which has swept around the Islamic world. Last week the Iranian Foreign Ministry invited Tony Blair to Tehran to take part in a planned conference on the Holocaust. Mr Blair said that such a conference was "shocking, ridiculous, ****** ". The Prime Minister responded by inviting Mr Ahmadinejad to witness the evidence of the Holocaust in the countries of Europe. Public protests against the publication of the cartoons have been relatively calm in Iran, although a crowd of about 200 smashed the windows of the Austrian Embassy in Tehran today. The protesters, chanting "God is Greatest" and "Europe, Europe, shame on you", smashed all the diplomatic mission’s windows with stones and then tried to hurl petrol bombs inside. Iran has withdrawn its ambassador to Denmark and has said it plans to review trade ties with all countries where the cartoons were published. Mr Ahmadinejad has criticised the argument of freedom of speech employed by European newspapers to justify publication of the cartoons. "If your newspapers are free why do not they publish anything about the innocence of the Palestinians and protest against the crimes committed by the Zionists?" the Mehr news agency quoted him as saying. Andrew Kaufman, chairman of the Association of Jewish Refugees (AJR), said: "We deplore this despicable initiative to trivialise the brutality of the Holocaust that will cause enormous insensitivity to all survivors of Nazism." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cara. Posted February 6, 2006 I wonder if the Jewish populations of Europe will burn down Muslim embassies in retaliation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted February 6, 2006 ^^^ Why do you wonder that? They have burned down our capittals, Beirut, Bagdad. They have occupied our lands, Palastine and our holly Al Aqsa. I hope you was being ironic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dhagax-Tuur Posted February 6, 2006 ^Absolutely. Is there anymore for them to do. Remember, they did a 'shock and awe' in muslim lands and still threaten to do so, so burning an embassy in their or 'friends' land doesn't mean a thing. The best thing for the Judeo-christian alliance is to examine and re-assess their constant trashing of muslims and their belief, not to mention robbing them of their God given natural resources. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted February 7, 2006 ^^^ Indeed, we have had a few centuries of division of these pathetic nation states. Yet with Globalisation comes the opportunity for Islam to reawaken and to assert its rights over its lands. We are not small nor do we lack anything. Remember before us in the wold did not even have the concept of 0[zero]. The western powers have tried their best and are yet able to defeat the Palastinians. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pi Posted February 7, 2006 Originally posted by General Duke: Remember before us in the wold did not even have the concept of 0[zero]. ^ . They had the concept of Zero before Islam, but is was not as developed theortically and mathematically. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted February 7, 2006 ^^ Elaborate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J.Lee Posted February 8, 2006 General Duke, ever wonder why the Quran's verse' are numerically structured by Indian (Hindi) numerals instead of Arabic? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Socod_badne Posted February 8, 2006 Originally posted by Zero: quote:Originally posted by General Duke: Remember before us in the wold did not even have the concept of 0[zero]. ^ . They had the concept of Zero before Islam, but is was not as developed theortically and mathematically. That's true. The zero was invented by the Indians, the decimal by the chinese. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted February 8, 2006 ^^^ If thats so why do we refer to it as the Arabic numerals and not the Hindi or Chinese numerals? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sayyid Posted February 8, 2006 The concept of "zero" was invented by muslims, we can see that also the word "zero" was linguistically taken from the arabic "z(s)ifr"! For the west anything that is accredited to "muslims" is distorted and credited to in this case "hindi", although it does not resemble it. It's a islamic concept, whatever others wanted us like to believe. How can we trust them even if they changed the names of our scholors, whilst changing "our" great civility and knowledge into latin without crediting the person who originally wrote it, they simply "changed" the names, in order to make them sound like more latin. They will never except anything or accredit it to their origins! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Socod_badne Posted February 9, 2006 Originally posted by General Duke: If thats so why do we refer to it as the Arabic numerals and not the Hindi or Chinese numerals? Because it was the Arabs who introduced it to the Europeans. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Socod_badne Posted February 9, 2006 Originally posted by Say(y)id Qutb: The concept of "zero" was invented by muslims, we can see that also the word "zero" was linguistically taken from the arabic "z(s)ifr"! Sifr is the Arabic word for zero, it's a translation of the Hindu word Sunya which means 'empty.' Among the earliest documented use of zero was by the Hindu astronomer Brahmagupta. That is why the invention of the number zero is ascribed to the Hindus. By the way, the Mayas of the Americas also invented the zero on their own. For the west anything that is accredited to "muslims" is distorted and credited to in this case "hindi", although it does not resemble it. The above is among the earliest Hindu numberals. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pi Posted February 9, 2006 Duke, I dont think coming up with symbols is a huge feat or a big accomplishment. It is about the concept . And the concept of zero predates the advent of Islam iteslf. Again, that's not to say that Muslims did not play a significant role in further developing the concept. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites