Looking Back at the TFG Elections in Djibouti. Fatah and TFG parallels

[Nur]

Akhi Al Kareem

 

You write:

 

On the bigger picture, and when things are put in context, Somalis are not oppressed group, and Ethiopia is not an empire capable of subjugating Somalis in Somalia. The fall of Somali state did not start in 2006. Emergence of Islamic courts did not end the Somali civil war; it only tamed one city and its environs. The fall started in 1991, and Ethiopia was not involved in a significant way

 

"Lax walba, meeshey is dhigtaa lagu gawracaa" Maahmaah Somaliyed

 

Let me qualify some of your statements:

 

1. Its true that fall of Somalia did not start in 2006, the cracks began in 1950 , we built our national house on a cliff, and ever since, the cracks kept enlarging until our wall crumbled in 1991. the late Siad Barre, was the last leader who can claim a clean underwear, with respect of not selling out his nation to Ethiopia in exchange of being appointed as The Representative Ethiopian Governor in Somalia. The rest, beginning with Mzee Abdullahi Yusuf, who defected to Ethiopia back in 1976, and the rest of traitor warlords, have sold their souls to Ethiopia in one way or another.

 

Dreaming is good, but, dreams only happen when one is sleeping ( slightly changed by eNuri, Malcolm X to Martin Luther King's famous "I have a Dream"). If we are the only ones responsible for our fall, logically, it follows that we should be the only ones who should pull ourselves out of this mess, what is not logical at all, is to say that we are responsible for our fall, yet, we seek Ethiopia and its Masters to take us out of this mess. If they have nothing to do with our fall, they should be out of the way, that is the right thing for them to do.

 

As for your analogy of Mengistu's fall, akhi-al xabiib, when America decides to destabilize a nation for its strategic purposes, the first thing they do is to close their Embassy, which gives a signal to the rest of their western pack of predators to follow suit, in effect, crippling the Banana Republic, later, the US orders all American citizens and green-card holders out and orders a box of popcorn and a soda to watch destabilization events unravel from safe quarters.

 

In the case of client state Ethiopia, America negotiated a safe haven for Mengistu in Mozambique, paid all his exile costs, airlifted him to Mozambique, assured safe transfer of power between America's competing Junta's ( As to who can serve American Interests the best). Poor Siad Barre on the other hand, was an international "Looma Ooyaan", neither his past Communist mentors, nor America bothered to help keep the nations institutions protected because Condoleeza Rice's Strategy of Creative Chaos was not to be interrupted. Ironically, Somalia's fall was overshadowed by the American War of Choice, the Baghdad American Advanced Weapons Testing Site, when Iraq was invaded and its clock turned back to the Babylonian era, transforming its civilization into a heap of rubble by the kind Judeo-Christian peace loving Fundamentalists.

 

Once Somalia became headless State, US Client State Ethiopia, began bank rolling to all of its agents of destruction aka " Warring Warlords" who mysteriously united after 15 years of clan wars to form the US Sponsored "Coalition to fight terrorism", just right after the formation of the Islamic Courts Union. ( Excuse me akhi, I am a staunch believer in the Advanced Coincidence-by-Desig n Theory)

 

 

Brother, The Webster Dictionary defines oppression as:

 

a : unjust or cruel exercise of authority or power.

 

b : something that oppresses especially in being an unjust or excessive exercise.

 

What the Ethiopian, Ugandan, Burundi and American forces have done in Somalia was indeed UNJUST, CRUEL , EXCESSIVE, EXERCISE of AUTHORITY ( UN, AU and US ) Its also called Collective Punishment, and it continues as I write this response.

 

 

I gotta run brother, but I will come back soon inshAllah

 

To be continued

 

 

Nur

[Kashafa]

If we are the only ones responsible for our fall, logically, it follows that we should be the only ones who should pull ourselves out of this mess,

what is not logical at all, is to say that we are responsible for our fall,

yet, we seek Ethiopia and its Masters to take us out of this mess

Shaykhuna,

 

Gabyaa aa beri hore wuxuu yeri:

 

Laqad asmac'ta low naaday'ta xay'yan /// waa laakin laa xayaata liman tunaadii.

 

Waxaa aa lahadlaysid waa nin Green Card ilaal'sanaayo, oo rabo inoo prove'gareeyo that he is a 'moderate'. He thinks he can achieve this by slandering Mujahideen'ta Umada Soomaliyeed oo Xalaasha ah by calling them names like "lunatic", "takfeeri", and "Alqaacido".

 

Xishood iyo Xaq'qa in uu tageero xisaab'ta ugama jiraan nin Green Card ilaal'sanaayo, lagana sugi maayo. Just like his hero, Shareef Al-Munaafiq Al-Khabeeth, Xiin is peddling Gun'nimo and surrender to Gumaysi under the thinly-veiled guise of 'Moderate Islam" and "Political reality".

 

Marka, Shaykh Nur-ow, laa xayaata liman tunaadii. I think the audience would benefit more if you continued the discussion with Abu Salman, who although I disagree with, came up with compelling points.

[xiinfaniin]

Nur wrote:

 

Lax walba, meeshey is dhigtaa lagu gawracaa

 

I assume by Lax you meant Somalis. Marka hadday saa tahay oo talo xumo Soomaali ku dhacday, Soomaalidu inay tashatto isu tanaasushu, oo keligi Muslimka qoriga la ordayyaa layska qabto maxaad ku diiday Nurow? Illeen haddaan annagu is layno, guul gaari maynee. Intaa inaad fahamtid miyyaa kugu adag Nur?

[Nur]

Xiin Writes:

 

I assume by Lax you meant Somalis. Marka hadday saa tahay oo talo xumo Soomaali ku dhacday, Soomaalidu inay tashatto isu tanaasushu, oo keligi Muslimka qoriga la ordayyaa layska qabto maxaad ku diiday Nurow? Illeen haddaan annagu is layno, guul gaari maynee. Intaa inaad fahamtid miyyaa kugu adag Nur?

 

 

Walaal, Somali weligeed wa wada noolaan jirtay, weyna dagaalami jireen, waana heshiin jireen, maxaa yeelay, lama soo dhax geli jirin. Walaal, hadda waa naloo soo dhacay, qaarkeenna wexey si cad ugu shaqeeyaan Xabashida ay dantooda ku jirto inaan baaba'no ummad ahaan, bal is weydii, imisa dowladood oo hore bey Xabashidu iyo inta la duuban ( IGAD) ay dumiyeen ooy ugu dambeysay Dawladdii Cabd Qaasin?

 

Balada na heysata haddey ahaan laheyd Xabashi nas oo weerartay oo nagu soo duushay annaogoo mideysan, wexey ahaan laheyd balo sahlan. Sidaasoo kale haddey baladeennu ahaan laheyd mid qabyaalad ah oo na dhax taalla oon nalagu dhax jirin, iyana waa sahlaanan leheyd, laakin walaal, markii dad Somali ah, afkaagi ku hadlaya, diintaadii sheeganaya, haddana ka iibinaya danaha waddankeenna cadowga, oo haddana raba iney ka qayb galaan Dawlad Somaaliyeed, sideee baa loo Heshiin?

 

 

Waxaa nabadi ugu dhowdahay, markii la Registergareeyo inta u shaqeeysa oo mushaar ka qaadata qolyaha ay Somalia ka soo gashay dano Stratiiji ah, iyo cadowga Xabashida. Imminka waddanku hadduu sida korka dadka yahay, Xummad kulul baa heysa, waana bukaa, wuxuuna ku raysan oo qudha, in jeermiga dilaya ama daciifinaya uu korkiisa ka saaro.

 

 

Nur

[xiinfaniin]

^Ha lays laayyo baan u gartay

 

waa say ahaan jirtey.

 

Mid baanse kuu sheegayyaa Nuurow, Markii Shariif soo laabtay Xamar Ethiopian ma joogin, wiilaal Uganda iyo Brundi u dhashay oon Somalia dhul ku haysan oo uu meesha ugu yimid oo xeryo ku xaraysan baa joogay. Hase yeeshee hoobiyayaashii xamar ka dhawaaqi jirey ma aamusin, ragga soo ridayna waa rag sidaad sheegaysid malaha jeermis dilayey. How long ayey jeermiskaa dili doonaan Allaah baa og.

 

Jeermis = Soomaali kale oo khilaafsan sida ay raggani qabaan ama wax u arkaan.

[Nur]

Kafa Allahul Muminiina Al Qitaal, looma baahna in la islaayo walaal, waxaa loo baahan yahay oo kaliya qof walba inuu ina-kaadhi-Najaaslah a tolkiisa ah uu ummadda ka qabto, qof walba waa inuu khaaimiinta umadda uu ku waaniyo iney siyaaasadda ka baxaan iyo camiilnimida Xabashida, si markaas inta xasiloon ay isu fahmaan, saa inta ay nagu dhex jiraan khaaimiin waxaan laga yaabin iney nabadi dhacdo.

 

 

Nur

[Kashafa]

Jeermis = Soomaali kale oo khilaafsan sida ay raggani qabaan ama wax u arkaan

Correction: Jeermis(Germs) = Soomali oo Munafiqeeen ah, oo lacag ka qaato una adeego cadowga Umada Soomaliyeed uu ugu horeeyo Ethiopia iyo African Union.

 

Those germs, as Shaykh Nur put it, will be exterminated. No negotiaions. No 'peace talks'. No 'wada hadal'. Not one single concession or tanaazul. Waayo, waxaa lala tanaazulaa nin walaal kula ah oo difference of opinion niga dhaxeeyo. Laakin festering bacteria germs, unrepentant traitors, can only expect a traitor's fate and a traitor's death.

 

Baqtiga Cumar Xaashi bal ka war doon, oo warayso xaal'kiisa intoo ku dambeeyay, iyo weliba caaqiba xumida ay leedahay in Kafaratul Axbaash dhabatha loo dhaqo, oo kabaha laga daba qaado.

[xiinfaniin]

I agree with you ya Nur in dadka wax tarka siyaasadda iyo hoggaanka umadda ay galaan. Taasise waxay u baahan in wasiila ladhifan loo maro oo dadka xabadda laga daayyo,waayyo xabadda muddo la ridaayey tamkiinna laguma gaarin.

 

wasiilada la marayyo baad mooddaa inaan isku gefsannahay, anigu wiil yar oo qoriga jecel xal uma arko. waa Kashafa oo kale

[Nur]

Akhi, Wa sunna ka mid ah sunanka Allah in dadka ay isku aragti noqonin, laakin, haddii aan yeelanno hal cabbir (miqyaas )oon ku qiyaasno taladeenna oo dhan, aragtida wey isu soo dhawaan kartaa, dabadeedna, wasiilada wexey ku dhismi doontaa aragtidaas meel dhexaadka ah ( markii la soo gaabsho meesha togga kala qaybiya talooyinka ( GAP)laga kala taagan yahay)

 

 

Nur

[Nur]

Quittin' Time in Afghanistan

 

By Eric Margolis

 

August 23, 2009 "Toronto Sun" -- An election held under the guns of a foreign occupation army cannot be called legitimate or democratic.

 

This week's stage-managed vote in Afghanistan for candidates chosen by western powers is unlikely to bring either peace or tranquility to this wretched nation that has suffered 30 years of war.

 

The Taliban and its nationalist allies rejected the vote as a fraud designed to validate continued foreign occupation and open the way for western oil and gas pipelines.

 

The Taliban, which speaks for many of Afghanistan's majority Pashtun, said it would only join a national election when U.S. and NATO troops withdraw.

 

After all the pre-election hoopla and agitprop in Afghanistan, we come out the same door we went in. The amiable U.S.-installed leader, Hamid Karzai, may remain in office, powerless.

 

Yet Washington is demanding its figurehead achieve things he simply cannot do. Meanwhile, Karzai's regime is engulfed by corruption and drug dealing.

 

Real power remains with strongmen from the Tajik and Uzbek minorities and local, drug-dealing tribal warlords who are paid by Washington to pretend to support Karzai. Behind the Tajiks and Uzbeks stand their patrons, Russia, India and Iran.

 

Afghanistan's Pashtun tribes, which make up 55% of the population, are largely excluded from power. They were the West's closest allies and foot soldiers ("freedom fighters") during the 1980s war against the Soviets.

 

The Taliban arose during the chaotic civil war of the early 1990s as a rural, mostly Pashtun religious movement to stop the wide-scale rape of women, impose order, and fight the drug-dealing Afghan Communists. The so-called "terrorist Taliban" received U.S. funding until four months before 9/11. Washington cut off aid after the Taliban made the fatal error of giving a major pipeline deal to an Argentine rather than U.S. oil firm for which Hamid Karzai once reportedly worked as a consultant.

 

Oil pipeline

 

The current war in Afghanistan is not about democracy, women's rights, education or nation building. Al-Qaida, the other excuse, barely exists. Its handful of members long ago decamped to Pakistan. The war really is about oil pipeline routes and western domination of the energy-rich Caspian Basin.

 

Afghanistan is a three-legged ethnic stool. Take away the Pashtun leg and stability is impossible.

 

There will be neither peace nor stability in Afghanistan until all ethnic groups are enfranchised. The West must cease backing minority Tajiks and Uzbeks against majority Pashtun -- who deserve their rightful share of power and spoils.

 

The solution to this unnecessary war is not more phoney elections but a comprehensive peace agreement among ethnic factions that largely restores the status quo before the 1970 Soviet invasion. That means a weak central government in Kabul (Karzai is ideal for this job) and a high degree of autonomy for self-governing Pashtun, Tajik, Uzbek and Hazara regions.

 

Government should revert to the old "loya jirga" system of tribal sit downs, where decisions are made by consensus, often after lengthy haggling. That is the way of the Afghans and of traditional Islamic society.

 

All foreign soldiers must withdraw. Create a diplomatic "cordon sanitaire" around Afghanistan's borders, returning it to its traditional role as a neutral buffer state.

 

The powers now stirring the Afghan pot -- the U.S., NATO, India, Iran, Russia, the Communist Central Asian states -- must cease meddling. They have become part of the Afghan problem. Afghans must be allowed to slowly resolve their differences the traditional Afghan way, even if it initially means blood. That's unavoidable.

 

The only way to end the epidemic of drug trading is to shut border crossings to Pakistan and the Central Asian states. But those nation's high officials, corrupted by drug money, will resist.

 

We can't solve Afghanistan's social or political problems by waging a cruel and apparently endless war. A senior British general just warned his troops might have to stay for another 40 years. (He later retracted).

 

The western powers, Canada included, have added to the bloody mess in Afghanistan. Time to go home.

 

© 2009 The Toronto Sun