In Warlords Next Door [Dispatches]

[AYOUB]

Ngonge

You don't "understand ", do you?

[-Serenity-]

I just watched it - very very sad state of affairs.

 

HELL is really OTHER PEOPLE.

 

Anyways, the reporting was a bit biased. They conflict is a two sided affair and the insurgents exacerbate the situation, pretty much using the same tactics of random bombing in areas where innocent bystanders get hurt.

 

The only thing that glaringly stood out was that the people running the show on the tfg side are highly ignorant, highly incompetent, highly istubidh and highly indifferent to the suffering of others.

[NGONGE]

^^ Not biased at all. The premise of the documentary was about 'bad people' that hail from the UK. It was not about the totality of the Somali conflict.

 

Ayoub,

But I do, I do.

[-Serenity-]

You're assuming there arent 'bad' (such a subjective term) people from the other side involved. I bet there are a few Al-shabaab members and instigators in the mix who hold foreign passports too.

[NGONGE]

^^ I'm not assuming anything here. The whole point of the show was really done in London when the reporter spoke with the Minster for Africa. Such an argument would not apply to Al-Shabab or their supporters.

[Faheema.]

Originally posted by NGONGE:

 

The premise of the documentary was about 'bad people' that hail from the UK. It was not about the totality of the Somali conflict.

Thank you! finally, someone who got the gist of the documentry The main objective was to expose those living 'next door' who are funded by the British goverment and the fact that we have helped them [with our tax money] destroy Somalia. :mad:

[-Serenity-]

< --- feels suitably put in her place.

 

Ok... so the premise was the UK govt's support for the corrupt tfg.

 

G'nite.

[Legend of Zu]

Makes me wonder - who are we? now that the useless warlords were identified! Is darkness the absence of light?

 

Cheers

[BOB]

Salam Aleikum W.W

 

 

Killing the innocent is a terrible sin and crime against Islam as Almighty Allah s.w said in the Qur'aan, Surah Al-Maida verse 32 says "Man qatala nafs bi ghayr nafsin aw fasad fi al-ard fa ka anna maa qatalan an-nas jamia" (That who kills a single soul except for a soul (killed) or for corruption in the earth, so it is as that he killed all of humankind).

 

Allah s.w will put a person in Hell forever for a single murder that he does not repent (Surah An-Nisa, Ayah 93) now can you imagine his wrath when in his eyes you have killed all of human kind? We should all be shaking with fear of such fate.

 

 

as well, the beloved prophet p.b.u.h has specifically prohibited the killing of civilians even during a state war, especially the elderly, women and children...in Sahih Muslim its narrated by Ibn Umar that a woman was found killed in one of these battles, so the messenger of Allah s.w forbade the killing of women and children.

 

this is the instructions that used to be given to the muslim army:

 

"Set out for Jihad in the name of Allah and for the sake of Allah. do not lay hands on the old verging on death, on women, children and babies. do not steal anything from the booty and collect together all that falls to your lot in the battlefield and do good, for Allah loves the virtuous and the pious"

 

 

The Qur'aan has also provided direction what to do when a muslim does wrong and this is found in Surah Al-Hujurat verse 9. "Fa in baghat ihda huma ala al-ukhra fa qatilu allati tabghi hatta tafi'a ila amr Allah" (so if one of the (parties of the faithful) does wrong to the other, then fight against the one that does wrong until it comes back around to the commandment of Allah) the meaning of this is clear, any and all muslims who are involved in the attacks against civilians are fasiq and fajir and we have been commanded to fight against them by Allah s.w until they return to the commandment of Allah s.w.

 

 

Allah s.w has given another directive and reminding us that we must do what is right, even if its against those closest to us be it mother, father, brother, sister, uncle, aunt or even our TRIBESMEN/WOMEN and this is in Surah An-Nisa verse "Ya ayyuha alladina amanu, kuna qawwamina bi al-qist shuhada lillahi wa law ala anfusikum aw al-walidayn wa al-aqrabin. (O you, those who have faith stand up for justice, witnesses of Allah, even if its against your own parents and close family)

 

 

I will finish this with a hadeeth from Sahih Bukhari which is narrated by Anas (r.a)...the beloved prophet p.b.u.h said "Help your brother, whether he is an oppressor or he is an oppressed one. te companions asked "O Allah's messenger...it's all right to help him if he's oppressed, but how should should we help him if he's an oppressor?" the beloved prophet p.b.u.h replied "by preventing him from oppressing others"

 

Brothers and sisters ilaahey ka cabsada oo dulmiga aad taageereysaan joojiya, by Allah nobody will ever be able to lend you a helping hand when you die and stand in front of your maker marka odayaashaan aan ilaahey iyo rasuulkiisaba inkiray haku daba lumina sababtoo ah dhammaantood nin diin Islaam ogol kuma jiro other wise waddanka gaalo gacanta uma aysan geliyeen maanta ummadda masaakiinta ahna lama gumaadeen. Allah Knows Best.

 

 

Salam Aleikum W.W

 

 

Peace, Love & Unity.

[me]

Originally posted by Abu_Geeljire:

quote:Originally posted by me:

In Dutch we have this saying.......roughly translated.....

the one who says A, should also say B

 

Marka, you are all shocked, angry, humiliated etc etc....some of you also had laughs and scored

points

against you

enemies

.

 

 

If you are so shocked and ashamed will you do anything about the present situation? if you think your doing anything to help your people by posting on SOL then your just as guilty of the war in Somalia as those ministers who are queuing up for Gabre.

 

That is an irrational statement( to say the least)!

ala erayo micnahooda aan la aqoon maxaa la tuur tuuray.

[N.O.R.F]

Don't wave to a blind man ya Toure!