Women of Jannah

[Khayr]

An example in which Islam gives "real" freedom whereas women in the West have "Dajjalic" freedom, please?

In Islam, you attain 'freedom' through following the Sunnah and constricting your NAFS, Your Physchi.

 

'DAJJALIC FREEDOM' is when your told not to LIMIT your NAFS but rather feed it over and over again. Feed the ego, feed the self i.e. You can do what you want to do, there are no limits.

 

Basically, SELF-GRATIFICATION is the AIM.

 

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Callypso,

 

GOD is not SENTIMENTAL contrary to what most people today would like GOD to be...a PERSONAL, SENTIMENTALIZED GOD.

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I think that is exactly the future of God.

THEN THAT is SHIRK and making GOD, your SLAVE.

 

An INVERSTION and PREVERSRION of what ISLAM teacheS.

 

islam says MAN IS A SLAVE OF GOD

 

Modern Man says GOD IS A SLAVE OF MAN .

 

As for the rest of your post,

inshallah, I will reply to it when I have more time.

[Cara.]

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An example in which Islam gives "real" freedom whereas women in the West have "Dajjalic" freedom, please?

In Islam, you attain 'freedom' through following the Sunnah and constricting your NAFS, Your Physchi.

Yes, yes. The idea being that there's a reward in the after-life that will make it worthwile. But the reward will be infinite hedonism. So in fact, it's delayed gratification that Islam teaches, isn't it?

 

'DAJJALIC FREEDOM' is when your told not to LIMIT your NAFS but rather feed it over and over again. Feed the ego, feed the self i.e. You can do what you want to do, there are no limits.

 

Basically, SELF-GRATIFICATION is the AIM.

Er, you simply defined "Dajjalic Freedom". I already guessed at the definition, though. What I asked for was an example.

 

But I see you're already distancing your self from the question by putting freedom in quotation marks...

 

islam says MAN IS A SLAVE OF GOD

 

Modern Man says GOD IS A SLAVE OF MAN .

Okay. I simply pointed out a trend.

[Proud_Muslimah2]

Peace Callypso,

 

I have done my research! Sorry if my response has been late, I’ve been very busy this month of Ramadan and on top of that..I have exams (doing my last year of school), however I managed to look into the Hadith methodically. I was prepared to refute this misapprehension but as I was not absolutely certain as to whether I had come across this Hadith I felt I would need to look it up before making a comment which would be blind, its always better to be 100% on the hadith to avoid confusion. Firstly the hadith is without doubt an authentic one though the words may not be completely accurate (which is impossible to do in English) to the way the prophet made this statement.There are number of ways to counter your arguments here 1) One of the signs of Yaw’mul Qiyamah’s is that Women will outnumber men......eventually 50:1 (Bukhari, Muslim, & Ahmad) If this is the case it is obvious that the amount of women in Jahanaam will out number men, as their population is more. 2) The Prophet was referring to that which takes place prior to Yaw’Mul Qiyamah so one must take the above hadith into account. 3) Notice the word “majority†and not the word “allâ€, had it been used you may have had a point. 4) As I mentioned in my earlier post it is clear that the prophet DID NOT refer to women as being hopeless, and had this been the case the women in this particular hadith would have understandably left Islam immediately as being females meant they were preordained for Jahanaam. 5) “I Have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religious commitment than you†again he was forewarning us on what comes prior to Yaw’Mul Qiyamah (Day of Judgement) and was reffering to a specific group of females (the ones who indulge in sins and create mischief and great fitnah), NOT the other way around!

 

You wrote:

 

“Are you really telling me that going to Hell is not about being evil, but rather a meaningless factâ€

 

This comment makes no sense and you are clearly confusing yourself and furthermore it is clear that you are looking for an argument and not seeking a debate or anything of that nature to gain knowledge. Firstly nobody supposed the occupants of Jahanaam are not evil, and second you are trying to point out the occupants of Hell as being evil, in its self is a fact. “In contrast, saying that men have heart attacks more than women is not a value-ladden statement. People who have heart attacks are not evil compared to those who don't. People who go to hell are evil compared to those who don't.

 

Again words put into my own and assumptions made. By putting forth the facts of men predominantly suffering from heart attacks, (if you have read my post CAREFULLY and tried to understand it) you would notice that this is an undeniable fact and is not discriminative, this was what I was pointing out. When the facts are given whatever it may be regarding, one must accept it if a person does not, they are blind of reality and clearly ignorant. The prophet was doing just that, giving us facts of what is on the road to come. The prophet also spoke of men occupying hell from he’s Ummah being of those who abandoned the Quran and would commit frequent sins with their private parts, now this again is not discriminative to males it’s a fact and rather than having a fatalistic mentality we as Muslims remember our beloved prophets words and try our utmost to refrain from the sins he has warned us of falling into. Just like the man who is aware that the majority of males suffer from heart attacks, what shall he do? Turn a blind eye and do nothing as he is doomed anyway? Rather he should turn to a healthy lifestyle! not calling on this heart attack to fall upon him, and though he knows the majority of men suffer from heart attacks he also knows how he can avoid it. The beloved prophet warned us of the hardships that will fall upon both men and women. He was given knowledge from Allah who knows the future and therefore sent Muhammad (pbuh) as a mercy to mankind, to warn us and guide us. I pray my response has been a beneficial one and may Allah (SWT) guide you to the straight path...Ameen

 

Peace

[Proud_Muslimah2]

Peace

 

I forgot to include this in my post

 

"If the majority of people going to Hell are women, then women are bad, compared to men."

 

This statement is very imperceptive, you are trying to make it seem as if a female will burn in Jahan'aam (Hell) for the soul puprose of being a female. One does not burn because of her gender but rather her actions.

 

"But why are we comparing in such an anachronistic fashion?"

 

It is not anachronistic, it is the facts of reality which you have trouble with accepting! The truth is...(as I have mentioned soo many times before) Islam gave women rights before the west gave women a single right, and to this day nothing protects women has much as Islam does. Many Kufars are extremely fats to point their fingers at Islam and scrutinise that which Allah has revealed. I say to such people how dare you point the finger at Islam when your society is crumbling mad :mad: (And you, yourselves admit this). The only rights the women of the west really have is the right to fulfill the desires of men behind the veil of "freedom". The porn industry is an increasingly profitting filthy sector which is based on what? Women being sex slaves to men. every 15 minutes a woman is raped. Here in Australia the majority of people running away from home are "girls"! Teenage pregnancy is increasing dramatically. A survey carried out by some college students showed that 7/10 women do not feel safe when they are out alone. And this is in Sydney the busiest city in the whole of the New South Wales, even in such busy environments where the chances of anything happening are less, women still feel unsafe. The facts are given to us by the Kufars (disbelievers) themselves, so day in and day out they admit that they are having a moral decline in society. It is not us Shariah loving Muslims who bring these facts forth it is they themselves who are presenting these harsh facts to us. We as Muslims believe that man made laws are always doomed to failure , one should not rule by ones whims and desires but rather rule by what Allah has revealed. As long as people judge by other than that which Allah has revealed, we will continue to see the decay of morals and discomposure of society.

[Salafi_Online]

Fatawaa on the Pillars of Islam

 

By Sheikh Muhammad Bin Saleh Al-Uthaaymen رحمه الله

 

P.116

 

Q.58: It is mentioned that there will be virgins of Paradise for the men in Paradise, so what is there for the women?

 

Answer: Allah the Blessed the Most High says about the blessings of the people of paradise:

‘…therein you shall have what you souls desire and therein you shall have what you ask for. An entertainment from the Oft-Forgiving, the Bestower of Mercy’ (Surah Fussilat 41: 31-32)

And He the Most High says:

‘…and therein is all that the souls desire and all that the eyes can delight in and you will abide therein forever.’ (Surah Az-Zukhruf 43:71)

 

And it is known that marriage is from the most intense (of things) which the souls desire. So, it will take place in Paradise for the people of Paradise, whether they be males or females.

And (as for) the woman, Allah the Blessed the Most High will marry her off in Paradise to her husband in the world, as Allah the Blessed, the Most High says:

‘Our Lord, and make them enter the everlasting gardens which you have promised them and to the righteous among their fathers, their wives and their offspring. Indeed you are the All-Mighty, the All-Wise.’ (Surah Gaafir 40:8)

 

And if she did not marry in the world, then indeed Allah the Most High will marry her off to what is pleasing to her in Paradise.

[Proud_Muslimah2]

Originally posted by Salafi da'wa:

Fatawaa on the Pillars of Islam

 

By Sheikh Muhammad Bin Saleh Al-Uthaaymen رحمه الله

 

P.116

 

Q.58: It is mentioned that there will be virgins of Paradise for the men in Paradise, so what is there for the women?

 

Answer: Allah the Blessed the Most High says about the blessings of the people of paradise:

‘…therein you shall have what you souls desire and therein you shall have what you ask for. An entertainment from the Oft-Forgiving, the Bestower of Mercy’ (Surah Fussilat 41: 31-32)

And He the Most High says:

‘…and therein is all that the souls desire and all that the eyes can delight in and you will abide therein forever.’ (Surah Az-Zukhruf 43:71)

 

And it is known that marriage is from the most intense (of things) which the souls desire. So, it will take place in Paradise for the people of Paradise, whether they be males or females.

And (as for) the woman, Allah the Blessed the Most High will marry her off in Paradise to her husband in the world, as Allah the Blessed, the Most High says:

‘Our Lord, and make them enter the everlasting gardens which you have promised them and to the righteous among their fathers, their wives and their offspring. Indeed you are the All-Mighty, the All-Wise.’ (Surah Gaafir 40:8)

Ah, just as I was pointing out to JB! Jazakum'Allahu Kairan brother/sister Salafi da'wa

[Proud_Muslimah2]

Peace again Callypso,

 

Found this article that will help understand the issue with women and hadith better Insh'Allah (God Willing)

 

Belittling Women with the Hadeeth: “Women are Deficient in Intellect and Deen.â€

By Ash Shaykh Al ‘Allaamah ‘Abdul ‘Azeez ibn Baaz (رحمه الله)

 

Question: We often hear the noble Hadeeth "Women are deficient in their intelligence and in their Deen†and some men use this Hadeeth as a form of belittlement towards the women. We desire from you O noble shaykh, clarification of the meaning of this Hadeeth?

 

Answer: The meaning of the Hadeeth of the Messenger of Allaah (s.a.w.):

 

“I have never seen anyone with a deficiency of ‘Aql (intellect) and Deen (religion) who are more overpowering to men than one of you [women].â€

 

So it was said: “O Messenger of Allaah, what is the deficiency in her intelligence?â€

 

He said: “Isn’t the witness of two women equal to that of one man?â€

 

So it was said: “What is the deficiency in her Deen?â€

 

So he said: “Isn’t it the case that if she is menstruating she doesn’t pray or fast?â€

 

So the Messenger (s.a.w) clarified that the deficiency of her intellect was from the angle of her weak memory and that her testimony is strengthened with the testimony of another woman. This is because of the preciseness of the witness (in Islaam) and because she could forget and make an addition or deletion to the testimony. Just as Allaah says:

 

{And bring forth two witnesses from your own men. If there are not two men (available) then a man and two women, such as you agree for witnesses, so that if one of them (two women) errs then the other can remind her…} [2282]

 

As for deficiency in her Deen, then it is because during her state of menstruation and post-partum bleeding, she abandons the Salaat and fasting, and she doesn’t make up the salaat. This is from the deficiency in her Deen. But this deficiency is not blameworthy upon her. Rather it is a deficiency, which happens as a result of that which Allaah had decreed for her and this was done in a manner of leniency and easiness towards her. For if she were to fast in a state of menstruation or in a state of postpartum bleeding it would harm her. So from the Mercy of Allaah (towards women) He has legislated for her to abandon the fast at the time when she is menstruating or in a state of Nifaas, and to make up the fast afterwards. As for the salaat, then without a doubt, the state of menstruation prevents her from purification. So from the mercy of Allaah, He legislated for her to abandon her prayer and likewise in the state of Nifaas. He also legislated for her not to make it up, because in making up the (Salaat) is difficulty, because the Salaat is tremendous, and repetitious, five times throughout the night and day, and the days of menstruation can be plentiful, sometimes seven or eight days or more than that. And the Nifaas could reach 40 days. So from the mercy of Allaah upon her and from His Ihsaan (doing good) towards her is that He removed the Salaat from her whether it be the initial Salaat or the make-up. And this does not necessitate that her intelligence is deficient in everything! Nor that her Deen is deficient in everything! But indeed the Messenger (saw) clarified that the deficiency in her intelligence is from that which happens to her from the lack of precision in her memory and testimony, and that the deficiency in her Deen is from the fact that she leaves off the prayer and fasting at the time of her menses or in the state of Nifaas. Also this doesn’t necessitate that she is less than a man in everything! or the fact that the man is better in everything! Yes, generally the male gender is better than the gender of the females generally for many reasons. Just as Allah the High and Sublime says:

 

{Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has made one of them to excel the other, and because they spend their wealth (to support them)…} [434]

 

But she can surpass him, sometimes, in many things. And by Allaah how many women surpass many men in their intelligence, Deen and precision! But verily that which is narrated on the Messenger (s.a.w) is that the women are surpassed by men, generally, in intelligence and in the religion only. There can proceed from her many righteous actions, in which, she can surpass the men and in her Taqwah of Allaah, Azza Wa Jall, and in her station in the hereafter. There could be some affairs that she places great importance on and is precise in them more so than the precision of a man. There are many issues, which she carefully considers, and is diligent in memorizing and precise in. She would become the foundation in Islaamic history and point of reference in many affairs and this is clear to those who ponder and reflect on the state of the women during the time of the Prophet (s.a.w) and after that. With this it should be understood that this deficiency should not prevent her from being treated equally in her narrations and in her testimony, if it is strengthened with the testimony of another woman. And it doesn’t necessarily mean that it (this deficiency) should prevent her from having Taqwah of Allaah and the fact that she could be from the most virtuous slaves of Allah if she is upright in her Deen, even if the fasting and Salaat is not obligatory upon her at the time of menstruation and Nifaas rather this is a deficiency which is specific to the intellect and Deen just as the Messenger (s.a.w) clarified. It is not appropriate that a believer should accuse her of being deficient in everything and weak in every area of her Deen, and its clarification is pertinent and important so that the speech of the Messenger is understood in it’s proper context and in the best possible manner and Allaah knows best.

 

Majmoo’ Fatawaa Wa Maqalaat Mutanawi’ah. Vol. 3/292

[Jafarel.]

Question of Fatwa:

Dear Sheikh! We always hear that men will have Hoor Al-`Een in Paradise. What about women?

 

Will they have their own Hoor Al-`Een or what? In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

 

All thanks and praise are due to Allah and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.

 

Dear questioner, we would like to thank you for your good question and we implore Almighty Allah for His help in furnishing you with the best answer.

 

In the very beginning, we would like to cite Ibn Kathir’s comment on the issue of men having Hoor Al-`Een. It reads:“ Almighty Allah tells us that He will provide the residents of Paradise with beautiful wives who have big and lustrous eyes and 'whom no man or Jinn before them has touched' and who are 'Like unto rubies and coral'â€.

 

In fact, Paradise is the abode of the believers in the Hereafter. Allah has prepared for His believing servants, males and females, in Paradise indescribable bliss that which no eye has seen, no ear has heard of and that has never ever crossed the minds of people, to the extent that even the person who has the least blessings in Paradise will think that he is the most blessed one.

 

In more than one Qur'anic verse, Allah, Most High, calls upon His servants to do their utmost in order to be favored with Paradise. For example, He says, "And vie one with another for forgiveness from your Lord, and for a Paradise as wide as are the heavens and the earth, prepared for those who ward off (evil)." (Al `Imran: 133)

 

All this indicates that in Paradise believing men and women will be showered with blessings; there is no room for discrimination based on gender in Paradise.

 

Focusing more on this issue, Sheikh `Atiyyah Saqr, former Head of Al-Azhar Fatwa Committee, adds:

 

“Here Allah mentions the Hoor Al`Een because in most cases men pursue women and not vice versa. As for women, Allah Almighty may marry them to any of the believers in Paradise, if they did not get married during worldly life, or He may compensate them by making them feel content with their position. It is also said that Allah may grant women some kind of beauty with which they will feel that they are better than the Hoor Al-`Een and that they are their mistress, so they will not love anyone other than their own husbands nor will they feel jealous of the Hoor Al-`Een.â€

[Jafarel.]

As-salamu `alaykum. Some traditional Muslims believe that Muslim men will be rewarded with 70 houris specially created for them and two believing women from this life. This is very demeaning and offensive to all women.

 

A question comes to my mind at this point. Why would God cause jealousy between husband and wife on this earth when He promises to give the same cause of jealousy (multiple wives) in Heaven to one gender (man) as a reward? Who put love, mercy, and affection between the spouses? It is sad to find that in traditional Muslim literature the concept of Heaven is a place specially created for men; there is no equality between men and women.

 

For men, Heaven is simply an extension of the earth where they established control and dominance over women through legitimizing unsanctioned polygamy and unlimited sex with females. One man’s Heaven is a woman’s Hell. This is supported by scholars, as a majority of them state that Paradise is a place of fulfillment of desires, and men—being prone to polygamy—will receive this as a reward.

 

My question is, how is it possible that Allah Almighty will grant the fulfillment of the desires of the male but not of the female—that is, to not share her husband with multiple women?

 

What about women who are patient in this life, hoping that their desire of not sharing their husbands will come true? I have read that scholars state that Allah will remove the “jealousy†from the heart of the women so they shouldn’t worry about it. Please explain how does this justify anything?

 

Instead of her desire/wish being fulfilled, she will be brainwashed, but on the other hand men won’t have to give up anything. Why won’t Allah remove the lust to have multiple wives from their hearts in order to please the female servants, while He will remove jealousy from the hearts of females in order to please male servants?

 

How come jealousy is a “female†product? When men are jealous, their jealousy is labeled as “ghayrah†(attack on morality). Bur when women are “jealousâ€, they are labeled as jealous beings? How I see it, being neutral, jealousy is a human product and not just a female thing. Allah created one mate, at least that’s what is mentioned in the Qur’an, for Adam (peace be upon him).

 

Therefore it is the fitrah of every male and female to feel “jealousy†when it is about sharing one’s spouse. Men are more possessive and would react in a similar way, even worse when it is about sharing their spouse. The reason is because we are both human beings. I totally agree with the “acceptance†of polygamy in this life, because it is a “solution†advised in the situations to avoid the haram. But it is discouraged by putting conditions on it. But paradise is every Muslim’s (men and women) goal. It doesn’t sound/feel right to the fitrah that it will be more rewarding towards men and again will require females to sacrifice and share. No matter how you put it, it is sharing the reward when one’s husband will have at least two other wives.

 

Does Allah love men more than women? A male martyr will receive 70 wives, but if a female servant of Allah dies for Jihad fisabillillah, she will still be required to share her husband with other wives. This concept is very discouraging and offensive towards Muslim sisters.

 

I personally feel like crying because it seems that no matter how hard I work to please Allah, even go as far as giving up my life for Allah Almighty, my reward will not be equivalent to that of a male servant.

 

THE ABOVE QUESTIONS WERE ASKED.....

 

Wa `alaykum as-salamu wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh. In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

 

All praise and thanks are due to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.

 

Sister, first of all, we’d like to say that we are impressed by your question, which emanates from a thoughtful heart. May Allah Almighty help us all adhere to the principles of this true religion, Islam, and enable us to be among the dwellers of Paradise in the Hereafter.

 

Paradise is the abode of the believers in the Hereafter. Allah has prepared for His believing servants, males and females, in Paradise indescribable bliss which no eye has seen, no ear has heard of, and that has never ever crossed the minds of people, to the extent that even the person who has the least blessings in Paradise will think that he is the most blessed one.

 

In more than one Qur’anic verse, Allah Most High, calls upon His servants to do their utmost in order to be favored with Paradise. For example, He says, (And vie one with another for forgiveness from your Lord, and for a Paradise as wide as are the heavens and the earth, prepared for those who ward off (evil).) (Aal `Imran 3: 133)

 

As regards your question, we’d like to inform you that in Paradise believing men and women will be showered with blessings; there is no room for discrimination based on sex in Paradise. The life of women in jannah will be as pleasant and happy as the life of men. Allah is not partial to any sex. He created both of them and He will take care of both of them according to their needs and desires. Let us all work to achieve the jannah and then, in sha’ Allah, we will find there what will satisfy all of us fully.

 

In his response to your question, Dr. Sano Koutoub Moustapha, professor of Fiqh and its Principles, International Islamic University, Malaysia, states the following:

 

 

Thank you so much for your very interesting comments and understanding of the issue of polygamy and the blessings given to men in Heaven.

 

I congratulate you for your logical ability and critical way of looking at things. However, I shall also confirm to you the issue of polygamy, be it in this life or the hereafter, it should not be classified as a privilege but rather a solution as you correctly mentioned in your arguments.

 

In other words, Islam does not open the door of polygamy for all men as it does not open it to women at all. As you may know well that each ruling or law has an exception and the exception is not the principle, therefore, we can not judge a law through its exceptions.

 

In this regard, I shall remind you that rewarding a mujahid with many wives doesn’t mean betraying the female mujahid.

 

It simply means there is a such reward for those mujahids who are looking for it. In other words, there is no compulsion upon all mujahids to accept or reject this reward. It is exactly the same thing as the polygamy in this life.

 

It is meant for those who want it, not for every single mujahid. Yet every Muslim man and woman who is allowed to enter Heaven is given the opportunity to get whatever he or she wants as clearly stated in the Qur’an and many Hadiths of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him). This means that those women who don’t want their husbands to have more could be granted this wish and desire. At the same time if the husbands of those women want to have more than them Allah is great and can satisfy each of them in the way He, the Almighty, wants.

 

Therefore, a woman should not be frustrated for a privilege of polygamy offered to men. This is not, for sure, at the expense of woman. Heaven is meant for both men and women, both of them are equally entitled to get what they wish for.

 

Certainly, there would be no clashes in their wishes, if any, the Almighty knows how to please each of them. Having said that, I shall inform you that the existing setup of humans in terms of desire, would be changed on the Day of Judgment.

 

In other words, both men and women would not be allowed to enter Heaven in their existing physical makeup. They will be in a better and greater form as stated by the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him). Both of them would enjoy living together and having whatever they wish and like.

 

Finally, the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) describes Heaven as a place where there are many things which no eyes have ever seen, no ears have ever heard before and no heart has ever felt. Let us pray the Almighty to grant us this great and wonderful place. Let us work harder and harder to be in this place. It is only through our full submission to the will and the orders of Allah that we will one day be granted this place