Importance of Imaam Ahmed his conquest of Abyssinia

[Cowke]

Duke, my last smashing point to you. Does ethiopia muslim lead the country? Do Ahmed Gurey followers have any effect on the people today?

 

I don't see muslim leader in Ethiopia, maybe you do lol but in reality there isn't.

 

Habash are still the ruling class and still remain firm upon their orthodox faith.

 

Like i said this is worthless argument as you can even show the habasha as not the ruling class. lol end of story really.

[General Duke]

Originally posted by Cowke:

Duke, my last smashing point to you. Does ethiopia muslim lead the country? Do Ahmed Gurey followers have any effect on the people today?

 

I don't see muslim leader in Ethiopia, maybe you do lol but in reality there isn't.

 

What nonsense, adeer yes Habashi’s did return to power after 200 years after the Imaam’s death. Its like saying that Tariq Bin Ziyad was defeated since today Spain is ruled by the Catholics? That’s your argument, you have none.

 

The lasting effect of Imaam Ahmeds’s successful campaign is the demographics of Ethiopia today, the majority of the population are Muslim. The largest regions of the state are Somali, Oromo and even the Afar state is huge

[Cowke]

You just said, habashi did return? what success are you talking about, when you successfully win a battle the enemy doesn't return i the society is transformed to the conquerer desires. I think Ahmed gurey didn't want HABASHI to continue controlling ethiopia or maybe i am wrong!!! lol sxb HABASHI OWN ETHIOPIA TODAY AND WILL CONTINUE TO OWN IT AND ARE SUCCESSFUL IN DEFEATING AHMED GUREY WHILST HIM AND HIS PEOPLE ARE IN A GRAVE.

 

Anyways sxb that is a lost battle on your end as us usual.

 

Ps: The majority may-be muslim but they can't lead anything, because again the habashi influence is so strong and dominant it don't matter if it was only 2 of them left they would still lead. They are unique people in Africa i give them that.

[General Duke]

Originally posted by Cowke:

You just said, habashi did return? what success are you talking about, when you successfully win a battle the enemy doesn't return i the society is transformed to the conquerer desires.

First of all did you not state before that you were finished?

Two important points here, Habashi rule returned hundreds of years after the death of the Great Imaam. Second Imaam Ahmed not only one battles, but he destroyed the fabric of Abyssinian society, He killed their Emperor, decimated the royal blood line, destroyed their churches and fundamentally transformed the society.

You are talking about battles this man changed the mindset of these people forever.

 

Now lets continue the study.

 

The destruction of Amhara & demise of Emperor Dawit

In the campaigns that followed, Ahmad's followers destroyed churches, monasteries, and converted Christians at the point of spear. In April 1533, Ahmad once again assembled his troops at Dabra Berhan to conquer—or at least ravage—the northern regions of Tigray, Begemder, and Gojjam.

 

Both Ethiopia and Dawit suffered heavily from these assaults. The monastery of Debre Libanos was burned,[5] and the establishments on the islands of Lake Tana looted.[6]

Dawit's eldest son Fiqtor was killed at Zara in Wag by a lieutenant of Ahmad on April 7, 1537; another son, Menas, was captured on May 19, 1539, and later sent to Yemen.

Amba Geshen fell to another assault in January, 1540, the royal prisoners interred there were slaughtered with their guards and the royal treasury looted. During the years that he lived as an outlaw in his own realm, Dawit came to see Queen Eleni's wisdom in reaching out to Europe for help, and he dispatched John Bermudez, who had arrived in Ethiopia with Dom Rodrigo de Lima, to ask for it once again. However, this help in the form of Cristóvão da Gama and his picked troop of 400 did not reach Ethiopia until after Dawit was killed in battle near Debre Damo, 2 September 1540.

Ethiopian historian on the effect of Imaam Ahmed Ibrahim

 

The Ethiopian historian Taddesse Tamrat writes,

"The Muslim occupation of the Christian highlands under Ahmad Gragn lasted for little more than ten years, between 1531 and 1543. But the amount of destruction brought about in these years can only be estimated in terms of centuries."

[7

[Cowke]

Duke, ethiopia is habash empire and if you think ahmed gurey was successful take a walk down addis ababa and the parliament and see what effect Ahmed gurey had. Totally nothing except having muslims as a majority who are weak and have no voice at all..

 

Hey the middle-east is 300 million arabs yet 6 million elite jews are the most powerful. Quantity doesn't matter, what count is quality and the habasha have proven that over the course of their history.

 

Sir this is the last time I am entering into this, their are more notable ppl that can actually make me think unlike this one-way demolition. Peace duke

[General Duke]

The Ethiopian–Adal War was a military conflict between the Ethiopian Empire and the Adal Sultanate from 1529 until 1543. The Imam Ahmad ibn Ibrihim al-Ghazi (nicknamed Gurey in Somali and Gragn in Amharic (ግራኝ Graññ), both meaning "the left-handed") came close to extinguishing the ancient realm of Ethiopia, and converting all of its subjects to Islam; the intervention of the European Cristóvão da Gama, son of the famous navigator Vasco da Gama, helped to prevent this outcome. However, both polities exhausted their resources and manpower in this conflict, allowing the northward migration of the Oromo into their present homelands to the north and west of Addis Ababa.[1] Many historians trace the origins of hostility between Somalia and Ethiopia to this war.[2] Some historians also argue that this conflict proved, through their use on both sides, the value of firearms such as the matchlock musket, cannons, and the arquebus over traditional weapons.[citation needed]