Libaax-Sankataabte Posted November 23, 2008 PS: If I am not mistaken, Riyaale's admin does receive financial assistance from the international community be it a smaller amount. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir-Qalbi-Adeyg Posted November 23, 2008 baalshit bropaganda, some secessionist convinced him to do this. Bossaso is safer than hargeisa today. And somaliland has no democracy, unless you consider vote rigging to be essential part of democracy. Somaliland is an ethiopian proxy, they can' do anything without the blessing of ethiopia. The so called 'somaliland' parties are divided among clan lines, so it's nothing more than clan alliances masquerading as political parties. At least with the TFG and the 4.5 system, it's direct clan representation and no smokescreens. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGONGE Posted November 23, 2008 ^^ Say it with me, guru. Ceesaanto way dhuushay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGONGE Posted November 23, 2008 ^^ Thank you for the correction. I'll get the hang of it some days. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir-Qalbi-Adeyg Posted November 23, 2008 Originally posted by Oodweyne: = ****** Edit : Some folks are convinced that the Pirate-land has something on Somaliland (be it peace or even democracy, not to say nothing about rule of law, where kidnapping and human's trafficking are fact of life that happens on a daily occurance in that neck-of-the-wood call Puntland )... One wonders what some folks are smoking in here... khat-lander , wasn't there some somaliland pirates who hijacked a hong kong ship carrying 'wheat' of all things. even when it comes to burcad badheednimo you lot are far behind. I can't believe a people who fight over ethiopian donated wheat have the audacity to talk about being civilized. I suppose pro-longed use of khat can make people delusional. This is peaceful hargiesa: http://insidesomalia.org/News/Aid/Demonstration-in -Hargeisa-Cause-Death-and-Injuries.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thankful Posted November 23, 2008 Where do you see Doorasho in Somaliland, where do you see Public wide elections? Your leader said 7 or 8 months ago we are having problems with national elections, so I'm extending my term. Just a few weeks ago he said we are having problems because of the effects of the bombing. So elections may not occur. He's not fooling anyone! Everyone including the international community is fully aware he has no intention of giving up power and that in any other real democratic nation it would be unacceptable to continuously extend his power. He's a typical African leader (a pretender). Riyaale will never leave after being on top for so long! They also know there is tension because people know that if one of the two major sub-families win the election things will get messy. So they keep Riyaale there who comes from a minor group to act as a middle man. There will be no public wide elections unless your leader Riyaale is certain he will win like the other one he won. So he's waiting for his disapproval to boil down. He can't use the old line that recognition is around the corner, because it lost it's power. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedSea Posted November 23, 2008 The khat consumption is the same in Gorowe as it is in Hargeysa. That is a fact. ps. that infamous sub clanish conflict in '06 didn't take place within the territories of SL. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir-Qalbi-Adeyg Posted November 23, 2008 There was a hong kong ship that was hijacked near the gulf of aden, the pirates could very well have been from khatland. Nonsense is your forte oldman. But try as you might to spray perfume on the feces that is somaliland, it is still feces. Somaliland is a corrupt clan enclave where innocents are jailed and killed for protesting. You see there might be 'human trafficking' in bossaso, but certainly no government officials slaughter innocent demonstrators like they do in hargeisa. Bossaso port earns more revenue than berbera, even some of your own people use the port because of the massive corruption of the 'somaliland' regime , creating an environment that is not conducive for business. Rigged elections are not something to be proud, jailing opposition and critics of somaliland is not something to be proud of, nor should you be proud of thief's you have/had for leaders like former egaal and today riyaale who's only purpose is to steal what meager remittance you people send back home. Somaliland is a rotting carcass, and anyone can smell the foul odor emanating from it. You're not fooling no one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedSea Posted November 23, 2008 Check youtube to see the evidence between these two regions. it's immense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AfricaOwn Posted November 23, 2008 Originally posted by Protocol: baalshit bropaganda, some secessionist convinced him to do this. Bossaso is safer than hargeisa today. And somaliland has no democracy, unless you consider vote rigging to be essential part of democracy. Somaliland is an ethiopian proxy, they can' do anything without the blessing of ethiopia. The so called 'somaliland' parties are divided among clan lines, so it's nothing more than clan alliances masquerading as political parties. At least with the TFG and the 4.5 system, it's direct clan representation and no smokescreens. You :mad: ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedSea Posted November 23, 2008 Protocol, You are not using your head when you say that Somaliland parties are divided along clan lines. I challenge you to name the #1 and 2 for each SL party. Then we can talk about if they hail the same. If somaliland was divided clan lines, then how do you think Rayaale got there? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AfricaOwn Posted November 23, 2008 There are influential leaders from my sub-clan in each of the 3 parties. My dude you have no idea what you're talking about. Don't confuse us to Pirate-land. Btw..How are the Dixon streets now days? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chimera Posted November 23, 2008 My interpretation of this drawing; IGAD character represents Ethiopia and Kenya and the years of manipulation that was projected on Somalia's governmental structure with civilian orgs & institutions - who had the ordinary people best interest in mind - being sidelined while the warlords were bolstered and strengthened through arms and funding who eventually evolved in the weak and treacherous TFG we have today American character represents: The United States blind policy towards Somalia and it's continues blunders, wether it's the unconditional support it's giving to the genocidal neighbouring dictatorship of Ethiopia or it's history of aiding and embedding terrorists such as the warlords of Mogadishu or the Ethiopian militia that has a track record of war crimes and creating Darfurs from Eritrea to Oromia and now Somalia. Arab character represents how Somalia needs to leave the Arab League and look for new friends. UN character represents the lipservice and neglect Somalia's genuine peace pursuing parties received from the International community when they found themselves sidestepped and trampled on by the better funded warlords turned politicians during the so-called Humanitarian intervention against a famine that had allready ended a year( the equivalant would be a december 2005 humanitarian intervention to the december 2004 Tsunami) or how the UN turned it's back on Somalia after their departure and greenlighted the 2006 illegal invasion. EU character represents the good cop versus the bad cop (America) though both are pursuing the same interests, the good cop will in public condemn the agression and violation of Somalia's sovereignty while behind the curtains support it. It turns a blind eye on it's domestic corporations violation of Somalia's seas while at the same time sends warships to combat the so-called Pirates The crowd represents the blind sheeps. I preferred they all sucked a lemon and stayed clear from Somalia for they are definitely not the type of customers you want to do business with. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites