Kenya's NTV a border dispute between PL SL is now threatening the peace in Somalia

[Thankful]

Red Sea

 

While Somaliland has had Hargeisa and Berbera as its Capitals prior to union of Somaliland and Somalia.

You joined the rest of Somalia less then a week after the british left you on your own. How can you have multiple capitals in such a short time. Who was your president then, did you have a parliament or flag? Did you have a seat at the UN, any embassies or consulates? What countries recognized you, in what way? You were not by any means a seperate entity, if you were, you would never have even though of leaving all that to Join the rest of Somalia. You were alone back then and that is why you united.

[A_Khadar]

Nac nac & nus.

[RedSea]

All we have to do in order to expose intellectual dishonesty is mention little something about their regions@ Shabeele. Look at you mr. National mixing it up with us. Saas baa la rabaa.

 

Duke,

 

What is the difference you say? There are difference, both narrow and broad. But today, there isn't much I can tell you other than that they are both poor and struggling regions.

 

 

ThankfulSP,

 

Somaliland's first capital city was Berbera, later moved to Hargeisa under the British. In contrast, Buntland walligeed Xamar ayaa looga talin jiray even during the colonial era. That is the difference between the two places you are trying to compare. Somaliland shares the same light as Somalia, not Buntland which a decade ago never existed as autonomous state. We had our own police, military, money and unique government structure than the South in the beginning. The two countries weren't compatible to start with and thus right after union, High ranking Somaliland military officers attempted a coup, however was foiled.

 

In addition, Mind you the process of independence went out for 40 years after Sayyid Abdalle Hassan Dervishes were defeated. The quest for independence was ongoing process that was completed on May, a month and half before independence. The June 26th date was ceremonial date set to announce it officially in front of the Somalilanders.

The history archives evidently highlight the existence of Somaliland, and 34 countries recognized Somaliland after independence.

 

Somaliland Prime Minister Mohammed Ibrahim Egal stepped down for the cause of Somali unity. This was the first African leader steps down for interest of cause but unfortunately Italian Somalia did not respect such courageous step. Prime Minister Egal headed Somaliland´s first Council of Ministers which contained four elected ministers and prime minister.

 

British Somaliland Protectorate held Legislative assembly elections on 17th Feb 1960 between political parties including SNL (Somali National League), NUF (National United Front) and USP (United Somali Party). SNL won the election with 20 out of 33 seats. USP won 12 seats and NUF won only one seat (Michele Maraima seat). SNL and USP formed alliance called SNL/USP. USP, mainly, had wide supporters in Eastern and Western regions of Somaliland (Awdal and Sool).

 

The Somaliland Cabinet:

1- Mohamed Ibrahim Egal – Prime Minister

2- Garad Ali Garad Jama – Minister

3- Ahmed Hajji Duale (Keyse) – Minister

4- Hajji Yusuf Iman – Minister

5- Hajji Ibrahim Nur – Minister

 

First Somaliland Political Party was formed in 1936 under slogan of SNS (Somali National Society) but unfortunately this party disappeared after modern parties emerged including SNL, NUF (Nafta) and USP in 1945-1958. NUF supported Somaliland to remain under British Protectorate for another 10 years in order the British to build schools, roads, hospitals and other infrastructure. British Government accepted the condition but SNL/USP and even the public did not understand the splendid idea of NUF.

 

Hajji Omer Askar and Mohammed Ibrahim Egal served as President and General Secretary of SNL. Egal was elected from Berbera and he served also as General Secretary of SNL Branch in Berbera. Michele Maraima and Ahmed Hassan served as President and General Secretary of NUF. Garad Ali Garad Jama also led USP.

On 2nd May 1960, Somaliland cabinet led by Mohamed Ibrahim Egal met with their counterparts in London, England and held ten days meeting. The meeting was to grant independence to Somaliland – as independent State. The British government agreed the independence on 26th June 1960.

 

Somaliland celebrated for the long waited independence and installed the Somaliland Flag at the first time on 26 June Center

About countries recognizing Somaliland. It's undeniable fact that Somaliland was internationally reorganized by June 26th, 1960 by 34 countries including the UK and U.S. Without thinking, our leaders joined Somalia in order to realize the smoke pipe dream known as Somaliwayn. Obviously, UN seat and other nation building tools would have followed had we halted the unification.

[Che -Guevara]

Laas Caanod looks like military garrison-so much for illusions of stability and progress.

[Liibaan]

Qofku haduu yahay beenaale sida redsea, waa inuu isku dayaa inuu sheego been run u eeg, lakiin been cad oo sal iyo raaad laheen, waa maangaabinimo ta ugu liidata

 

 

Historically, a separate and independent country called Somaliland never existed. Secessionists claim 30 countries recognized imaginary country called Somaliland but they don't have any evidence, and not a single country in the world can validate their lies. also, they don't have the complete list of those 30 countries.

 

In addition, International Organizations like United Nations never recognized a country that never existed.

 

Now Redsea is claiming that Somaliland became independent in May 1960 that is how you know he is lying. British Somaliland colony received independence on 26 June 1960, and on that night the blue flag of Somalia replaced the British flag. Kana siib kana saar, so even on those 4 day between 26 June and July 1 the territories of former British Somali colony was part of Somalia.

 

 

The question is why would any country recognize a territory that doesn't have a separate flag and head of state (president/king)?

[A_Khadar]

Busted as usual

[Thankful]

Well said Dalmar!!!!

 

Without thinking, our leaders joined Somalia

Red Sea, stop with the garbage. You are telling me that 34 countries recognized a country that had a prime minister and 4 ministers? So you want us to believe that you were an indepedent state and Egal was the leader and he chose for the sake of Somaliweyn to step down and accept a lower position? They had their own ministers and all these countries recognizing them and without thinking they just joined Somalia???

 

Whatever

[Sikaawe]

Originally posted by 'Dalmar':

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British Somaliland colony received independence on 26 June 1960, and on that night the blue flag of Somalia replaced the British flag. Kana siib kana saar, so even on those 4 day between 26 June and July 1 the territories of former British Somali colony was part of Somalia.

 

 

I cannot see how true is your assertion here if one is not lying about history. You said Somaliland got independence while was still part of Somalia, this does not add up unless you are making up a bit of new history for yourself here! :rolleyes:

[NASSIR]

A Military Garrison? SL has deepened the division and exploited it, but reer Sool shall one day triumph over the dark forces of secessionism at their door steps.