Somali Foreign Minister Meets Iranian President

[RedSea]

Originally posted by Che -Guevara:

^What you are advocating is balkanization of Somalia. That would be worse option and one burden with sets of problems that surely destabilize northern regions.

Put it in little in perspective. Dont just tow the same old arguments. Would the South lose anything if Somalialnd gotten recognized? The answer is no. Sidaas ayuunbaad haynaysaa. Markaa xasidka iska daaya oo wax noo ogolaada.

[Cowke]

I cannot believe anyone can not think outside of the box just for 1 second. No matter how much peace is reigning in other parts of somalia it doesn't matter. The international community focuses on areas that are in need of "priority" attention that can "harm their foreign interests".

 

A shabab running the south can seriously jepordize america friends in the region such as ethiopia and kenya and this is not in their interest. This is why they support the tfg so much and recognize and will continue to work with it before anyone else, because they facilitated and created the tfg in kenya and only trust what "they create". They don't trust what is created by others and consider it "unreliable".

 

If garowe or hargeisa started doing the same thing they might also get the attention they need from the west. The west only reacts if u r potential threat to their interest. Puntland has taken forth this measure by introducing piracy, and also inviting other regions such as benadir, jubbaland, rra-land to come to garowe and talk about creating multiple regional states in somalia. If this is successful, the west will realize the tfg is merely just "1" regional states among many regional states and start facilitating a proper allocation of power to each subset entity. This will hopefully by-pass their reliance on the tfg and start dealing with the tfg at the same level with all regional states. Then we can start going places and divide power along regional entities and everybody gets to have a say to "america" rather then the tfg only as is the case now.

 

But don't expect to be sitting around as a good boy the west will just "reward" you for it. Their is nothing in it for them nor are you threatening their interests by remaining a "good boy" they simply ignore you as is the case to what they have done to the more peaceful regions.

 

Somalis need to know how to play the game and the rules are not set by somalis but by international community. Learn the god damn rules and play to win, or stop whining "why is america no supporting" us arguments.

[Che -Guevara]

Originally posted by Mr. Red Sea:

ut it in little in perspective. Dont just tow the same old arguments. Would the South lose anything if Somalialnd gotten recognized? The answer is no. Sidaas ayuunbaad haynaysaa. Markaa xasidka iska daaya oo wax noo ogolaada.

The south will lose significant landmass and many potential taxpayers, more importantly secession will kill Somalia's claim to the rest of Somali territories in the horn, not mention it will farther ignite more conflicts and contribute to the problems facing Somalis while cementing Ethiopian hegemony.

[Naxar Nugaaleed]

What can't Somalilanders do now that they can do once they attain independence? This Idea that investors will come out the wood works once some country recognizes Somaliland's independence is silly, unfounded and needs to be laid to rest.

This is the silly promise a real dictator sustains his regime that was meant to replace an imaginary one.

[RedSea]

^ World doesn't see the difference between Somalia and Somaliland, because technically we are still part of Somalia. No investor is mad enough to go to Somalia and invest his/her money into failed nation so they think. If Somaliland is recognized, then that means Somaliland can build their own reputation and be known as separate entity with its own recognized status. Then investors, lenders will be comfortable enough to invest and lend us what we need.

 

Che,

 

Somaliland is willing in remaining partners. That option will remain on the table.However, the borders must be returned to what they were on June, 26th 1960. You have more than enough land, resources to support the people of Somalia, you dont need Somaliland to rely on. Go on alone, and God speed.

[Cowke]

Mr.Red Sea, meles zenawi created "federal ethiopia" and this is exactly what he endorses for somalia. Period!!! U don't like that, go under a rock and say "ictiraf" is coming.

[Cowke]

I don't see the benefit somaliland gets from addis. I can see the benefit puntland gets. Puntland wants federalism, therefore it's understandable they ally with someone who also endorses that.

 

But somaliland doesn't want federalism and wants separatism, yet align with addis ababa who endorses federalism?

 

Sure u might have business relationship with ethiopia, but bi-lateral ties is not diplomatic or political ties. U and Ethiopia have no political reason to be together. Mind boggling really!!! I say to much qat and music has killed their brain-cells in hargeisa.

[RedSea]

Originally posted by Cowke:

Mr.Red Sea, meles zenawi created "federal ethiopia" and this is exactly what he endorses for somalia. Period!!! U don't like that, go under a rock and say "ictiraf" is coming.

 

I dont want what Satan prescribed for us, I want what Somaliland wants which is COMPLETE sovereignty. Period. You don't like that, can take the advice of Melez Zenawi and shoveit adeer.

[xiinfaniin]

Kudos for TFG 2.0

 

Ever since Somalia’s central government collapsed, the strategy of subsequent admins has been to get greater exposure with world powers so the plight of Somali people is articulated and made known to world and regional leaders. In fact what sat some transitional admins apart from the rest was the degree of that exposure.

 

TFG 2.0 did great work on that account. Apparently it’s not enough to meet with world leaders. However, it’s a vital component in advancing Somali cause and getting support for it.

[Nageeye77]

One should not be naive, to expect international intention to regional administrations. Given the fact that S-land & P-land did some thing worthwhile for their people but in the meantime they should consider taking the next step which is to say, mmmm getting united and extending their administration all the way to Hiraan. Can they do it? Yes they can. Would it be more beneficial than what have now? Yes. but they are out there seemingly comfortable, as if there is no more job needs to be done while time ticking.