Saado Ali Warsame: Does she have a point?

[MoonLight1]

I stumbeld accross this interview with Saada Ali, she seems to have very legitimate questions for the die hard landers in this thread.

enjoy it.

 

http://www.calanka.com/warka/article465.htm

[Showqi]

Saado Cali waa Wadaniyad. I love her. illaahoow Soomaalida maskaxda Saado Cali oo kale sii. Si ay isu jeclaadaan.

 

Moonlight Thanks for posting Walaal

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Saado cali haday hawada somaliland so gasho soona cago dhigato . Daahir riyaale jeelka ha dhigo , Ma siyaad bare ka liita Siyaad bare ba slaantaas jeelku dhigay eh

[Cowke]

Moonlight darwish share nothing with snm click, totally opposite politics. Whilst the snm were in bed with british, the darwish were fighting for somalia.

 

Infact i've never seen darwish and snm ever share one policy together, war dadku waa kala labo. Puntland is the darwish home, where darwish are remembered every year for their great service to the nation and unity of the people plus we share our an ancestor therefore its quite easy to see why darwish are more puntland then anything!!!

 

Darwish and Puntland have no political difference regarding their first policiy "1 somalia". They share blood ties. What else is there to be said? Considering today somalis are all about blood ties anyways

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

When the Dervishes were defeated in 1921 all the families that fled in the direction of Galbeed Were all welcomed and they restarted their lives With their people., Actually darvishism Started in burco 1899 With Suldaan Nur Amaan And Ina cabdulla xassan way before the forts of taleex were build. The darwiish history is part of the history of Somaliland.

One of somaliland poets in 1960 made a poem wuxu yidhi abwaanku

 

Alllow yaa darwiishi fariin dabacsan gaadhsiya

Alllow yaa dadkaagi yidha dawladnimo qaaday

Allow yaa Dabbaaldegiyo farax kula eedama

[A_Khadar]

Originally posted by Xaji_Xunjuf:

When the Dervishes were defeated in 1921 all the families that fled in the direction of Galbeed Were all welcomed and they restarted their lives With their people., Actually darvishism Started in burco 1899 With Suldaan Nur Amaan And Ina cabdulla xassan way before the forts of taleex were build. The darwiish history is part of the history of Somaliland.

One of somaliland poets in 1960 made a poem wuxu yidhi abwaanku

 

Alllow yaa darwiishi fariin dabacsan gaadhsiya

Alllow yaa dadkaagi yidha dawladnimo qaaday

Allow yaa Dabbaaldegiyo farax kula eedama

Xundufow you come to your sense only today. I can agree with you more that Galbeed communities welcome darvishes families. And Darvishes know about that history.. Lakiin wixiiba waxaa isku cunay markaad ucalaacasheen kuwii saa wax yeelay oo aad tidhaahdaan we are your kids and you left us alone... come back to your somali brothers.

[Cowke]

Xaji. if the snm click played a great role in the dervish movement surely the notable historians would say so. Im not denying the snm click sections of them were apart of it but majority was not and therefore it's pointless to say "hey i got 1 abdi in there therefore i own it".

 

The final blow to your argument is. Show me where any historian says dervish was snm movement!!! it never was IT WAS STRICTLY D-BLOCK MOVEMENT.

 

As for somaliland, dont beg ppl that dont want u, its embarassing sxb!!! we dont really care if snm want somalia or dont anaga dhulkas baa noo daran iyo midnimadiisa from zeylac-to kismayo even siyad barre resettled different ppl there. Dhulka la kala goyi maayo adaa iska baxeysid.

 

When we deal with the big lion clans in somalis, the small waraabe clans like u will be a walk in the park. I mean even the tfg knows your weak clan and says u dont deserve more then 28 seats where as dblock clan gets 61 seats.

 

I doubt u.n are TRIBAL BASED. but then again u probably will say they are!!!

[Cowke]

As far as im concerned clans that have numerical, economical, and military strength to capture the capital and the nation are the strong clans. Meles and his ppl did that, even so did eritrea helping meles out in order to get separation.

 

As for puntland who is battle hardened and has thousands of forces based in hamar, not 1 has been reported killed. That just gives a hint at how well trained they are. That not mentioning the PIS who are even better then darawish.

 

Puntland has the capability to have thousands of troops in hamar, plus troops in it's own land protecting its ppl. Plus sorting out sool and sanaag. That whats you call powerhouse. Not someone that sits around in his tuulo and comes online and just boasts!!!!

 

Sxb dont tell me snm click dont want hamar, everyone does. its piece of gold, anyone that rules there GETS WHATEVER THEY WANT including separation as CLAIM that your clan is seeking.

 

The problem that engulfs u is your power can not go anywhere beyond afar tuulo and this is evident why the u.n decided to give u 29 seats only. So xaji just SHOW ACTION. Anyone can capture 1 city. its different story capturing the whole nation by controlling the capital.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

We played a big role in the dervish movement that you would know if you knew somali History I mean The Foreign minister of the darwiish Was Kitifiqiye The Ambassador To yemen for Darawiishta Was Xaaji Suudi shabeele., The Sultan Nur amaan Was A dervish he was the first one who hosted The Darwiish in his home town Burco. Cali darwiish was the commander who was leading the army in sanaag , ina cabdulla xassan ,, heard about this event and he said Cali darwish and his People are Saints Saying In a poem Duco awliyaad bu qabba degeha turwyaa wa niman gaalada deldela doogiyo abaare, etc And ofcourse there was also opposition But that history is well documented , it tells you allot that these people want their own clan state called ssc and don’t want anything to do with Puntland , Garowe should wake up and see the light .That tells you the dervishes have no link no Marriage cultural heritage dialects folkoric dances educational system and colonial system or the same history as you non of that they share with you

 

The identity is constructed its not biological or genetical and for many people including those people from eastern sool and eastern sanaag and many more of them have accepted the will and the mandate of the Somaliland government and its ability to secure peace and stability in the region as well as economic development and progress unlike most Clan fiefdoms in the region or the Somali Peninsula Somaliland has made real progress forward and is showing all kond of transition towards building a consensus amongst its divers population to live together in peace and harmony

[Che -Guevara]

^As long as they are waving the blue flag that's matters!

 

That tells you the dervishes have no link no Marriage cultural heritage dialects folkoric dances educational system and colonial system or the same history as you non of that they share with you

Rubbish, absolute rubbish!

 

And you take pride in your colonial legacy-Ingiriis si fiican madaxa kaaga waseyn-shameful

[SOO MAAL]

Che,

 

Kan maaha mid caqli leh,iskadaa waa jaahil, yaa u sheega ingriis ama faransiis ama balaayo kale ayaa nawada guumeestay walaalo ama xitaa saxiibo laguma noqdo?

 

Shacabka SSC iyo kuwa guumeesigii ingriiska ku faanaya waxba kama dhaxeeyaan, waxna iskkuma aha

 

 

Shacabka SSC waxey wax badan la wadaagaan walaalaahooda soomaaliyeed oo dhan, sida dalkooda Somalia, calankooda Baluuga ah, luqad, dhaqan, diin, dhiiq, etc lamaba koobi karo

[Che -Guevara]

Xaaji nin macquul ah uheestey laakin xaar buu kawa reegey.

 

Bal Soomaal translate what I wrote above since he doesn't understand me

[NASSIR]

Lol@Che.

 

"Saado is not a stranger to controversy and her latest song has generated a lot of debate in Somali circles. Many Somalis have welcomed its nationalistic lyrics, while a few have accused her of encouraging the people of Sool to revolt against the secessionist regime of Rayale, a former Colonel in the security apparatus of the collapsed Somali Regime.  Some accuse Rayale of wanting to bolster his re-election chances with the costly and risky occupation of the city."

read it further

[SOO MAAL]

Che, even if we translate in somali, arabic or farisi, he will never understand, because he is not willing listen or use his brain.

[Cowke]

Waryaa xaji, This is somaliaonline were free people meet. You might need to head to somalilandforums where the slaves meet. Once u step out of your slave-based mind, then talk to free men till then your DISMISSED