Mintid Farayar Posted May 8, 2009 Originally posted by General Duke: There is no end game, Puntland has gained much from this issue, the world knows where it is, that its government is the only way tod eal with the Pirates. If crime could destroy a nation then the Mafia would have destroyed Italy. Maybe they need to bomb Naples because of the Comora. True, ya Duke, very true. But that's also why very few multinational conglomerates establish large regional branches in Italy. They just don't wanna deal with the corruption and hassles. That's why business in Italy is primarily driven by small, family businesses all the way to the medium level. Make sense, old friend?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mintid Farayar Posted May 8, 2009 Originally posted by General Duke: lool. Desperate secessionists are envious of the attention. Anyhow Puntland is moving foreward and crime is no big issue Europe/US have the most criminals and they are the most developed. The Pirates have irked some because in the North of Somalia girls from Hargaysa, Burco to Bossaso want to marry the Pirates of Eyl. How can you compete? Duke, are you hoping we'll become 'Xidid' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted May 8, 2009 As for the ignored part, if you only knew, ya Che. Notice, I never post items on the Somaliland/U.S. interaction. Long before, you were here someone has been barking the same very word....Even someone went farther and said, Somaliland will get recognized in 2006..It wasn't true then and it's not now. But to your credit, atleast you know what you want-misguided but goal oriented Xiin and co. can mobilize their thousands of Flight 13 cousins No labels-You are taking the fun out of the whole experience here. You can always move Reerka from Nairobi to Hargeisa, Burco, Borama, or Ceerigaabo. It finally comes out Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mintid Farayar Posted May 8, 2009 From Ken Menkhaus and ENOUGH project: The lowest order of threat to the TFG, the Somali people, the region, and the United States is actually the security item enjoying the greatest attention right now—piracy. Even so, the continued epidemic of piracy off the Somali coast is a problem and a test of the capacity of the TFG to extend its authority. Proposals to provide external assistance to the TFG for the establishment of a coast guard are premature, do not reflect the security priorities of the Somali people, and are unlikely to work. Indeed, training up coast guard officers could easily produce unintended consequences, as that new skill set will be more valuable in the piracy sector than in the public sector, producing defections from the coast guard. A more appropriate approach for the TFG will be to tackle piracy onshore. That will require time, funds, and extensive negotiations. External actors will have only limited roles to play in this internal Somali process. Antipiracy measures would attract much greater support among Somalis if those efforts were accompanied by international action to end illegal fishing off Somalia’s coast. Like the shabaab during the Ethiopian occupation, pirates have managed to cloak their criminal agenda beneath a veil of Somali nationalism . Those poor Gaallo are not as dumb as you fellows wish... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted May 8, 2009 ^^^lool. The TFG no one is talking about lad, its Puntland that will get the coastguard. We only give you real news lad, the behidn the scenes moves are going well and the US/International community is warm to our plan. Thus keep talking and in the meantime, set up a land guard to stop the flow of ladies into Garowe from the NW its getting bad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mintid Farayar Posted May 8, 2009 ^^ Very usual response from you, Duke. Hide from the presented facts. All hail the Puntland Coast Guard, led by his Excellency, the Honorable Sheikh Abdullahi Yusuf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted May 8, 2009 ^^^What facts, that Gates & Clinton are interested in talking to Puntland? That the US has rules out any bombings on land, and that the world is open to dealing with the real issues of Toxic waste and overfishing. You want the WEST to bomb Garowe, but thats the real wishful thinking, because in this grand game you dont exist, your enclave is not taken seriously.. Again dear lad, why you mad at the Pirates, is it the money, the fame or the ladies? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mintid Farayar Posted May 8, 2009 Originally posted by General Duke: ^^^What facts, that Gates & Clinton are interested in talking to Puntland? That the US has rules out any bombings on land, and that the world is open to dealing with the real issues of Toxic waste and overfishing. You want the WEST to bomb Garowe, but thats the real wishful thinking, because in this grand game you dont exist, your enclave is not taken seriously.. Again dear lad, why you mad at the Pirates, is it the money, the fame or the ladies? Always attempting to change the issue at hand, Duke. Tsk, tsk... Who talked about bombing Garowe? Don't be paranoid As for not being taken seriously, that's equivalent to saying Ethiopia and Kenya are not significant b/c they're not mentioned when talking about the lawlessness of Puntland. Oooh, my goodness, must I spell out everything for you in 'Far waaweyn'?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted May 8, 2009 ^^^lool. You dont undertsand the nature of the Pirates, they make their catches in the sea and not the land of Punt, they party in the cities, but their work not on land. Thus again lad, whats the big issue, they have neevr killed a single person? Yes its wrong what they do, but they have never stealed from the Public unlike Riyaale who lives like a King in dirt poor Hargaysa at the expense of the poor. The Pirates make money, lad and not at the expense of Somali's. So again is it the money, the bling, the ladies or the fame? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mintid Farayar Posted May 8, 2009 The pirates can make all the money they can while the going is good, but the Puntland Authorities will not see a dime of international aid. Is that point so hard to understand?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted May 8, 2009 ^^^International money ? You mean the money promised to go to the AU for AMISOM? The fact here is that we have our own plan, that is independent from the TFG [Which as we speak is suffering in the capital]. Our plan has had positive reviews and our lobby in Washington is doing a good job thus far. The Pirates have made more money than all the begging of Secessionist combined. Thus your envy and anger is easy to understand. Your crooks [Riyaale]steal money from the poors taxes, Our crooks [Pirates /Coast guards] take money from illegal western ships. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mintid Farayar Posted May 8, 2009 Originally posted by General Duke: Our crooks [Pirates /Coast guards] take money from illegal western ships. And also brought to you express from NPR (US Public Radio): On the corner of the 7 is Puntland, which is on both the Gulf of Aden and the Indian Ocean. Puntland means "Land of Spices." But the region is better known for human trafficking and piracy. Most hijacked ships are moored off Puntland. Many in Puntland's government are said to be in league with the pirates. And with more than a dozen hijacked ships off the Puntland coast, piracy clearly has some local support. The lobby is very effective I see NPR Link Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted May 8, 2009 ^^^Indeed it is, its all about Puntland, also this statement Many in Puntland's government are said to be in league with the pirates Its much like how Secessionists are said to be Orphans of the living Queen of England. Though its a fact this was stated by their "Foreign minister" at the time Edna Adan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted May 12, 2009 Maxuu Yahay Qorshaha Cusub ee Puntland ee Ku Aadan Burcad Badeeda? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mintid Farayar Posted May 12, 2009 ^^ Che, if I posted that same article I would be called all sorts of 'unmentionable' slurs by the Abdullahi Yusuf 'Amen' corner Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites