Poison or panacea

[Naxar Nugaaleed]

Can islmaist rule Somalia and can they bring Somalia out of the hole that it has been for the past sixteen years. When analyst of Somali affairs considered the likely solutions to the Somali problem, no one considered these islamist who seem (we can be never be certain but the turn around of members of this forum seems conclude this) have popular support among Somalis. Among these Somalis are northerners, be they Puntlanders or Somalilanders, who were diehard supporters of secession or Somali dismemberment because they were revolted by what was taking place in the south. This Foolish flip-floppary common among Somalis, can what has been our poison be a panacea now for all that ills our country.

For me the answer is no. For all this years, these sheikhs have been the one who destroyed Somalia in every way imaginable. Yet I do not base my view of these warlords turned wadaads on their history but the actions they have taken. We seem to have a historical amnesia but this wadaads were the ones who were carrying out all this assignations when the Mogadishu faction of the TFG were trying to force the government to go to Mogadishu. From there on it was clear that they had their own agenda and were antigovernment. Granted, this Xamar faction also did not want government but they were different in that some of them (warlords yelaxow, qanyare and others) wanted a weak government who they could dictate to but these wadaads want no government at all.

They also have lied at every turn. They said we have no reason to capture this city or that city every time they attacked a city. They said they would not attack the government but have overthrown government appointed governors (Hiiraan, Bay among others) and territories held by members of the government (Kismayu among others). They have said that are not “Xukundoon” but are trying to get cabinet portfolios in a tribally balanced government.

They have violated the rights of people and committed war crimes. Too many to cover here but will give few here. Killing of kids watching a football game. Beat people for singing at weddings. Shaved peoples head for having western style haircuts. Continue to oppose members of the press who report something they do not like. Killed wounded solders they captured. Whip woman for trying to make a living or dressing in a manner they consider being inappropriate. Cut of the hands Hungary children from unarmed clans.

They are inconsistent in that every members basically makes their own rules were they rule. For example, khat is banned in Kismayu but not in xamar.

 

Clan matters In Somalia. Self-righteous few here have pushed by what has been going in Somalia into extreme political correctness. This has lead to either of three types of flowed analysis. The first is a self-inflicted blindness or delusion regarding the relevance in Somali affairs. The second is the fearful who ignore any mention of clan for fear of being branded clannish. The others are the shameless few that don this hat of political correctness when it suits their opportunist agenda. All these type of flow are present in the discussion of the ICU. The first come up ****** assertions about the icu’s ability to restore Somalia that is not in touch with reality. The second know that this group is not the solution to Somalia’s problems but keep silent. The last are audacious to paint the TFG as a clannish entity and the icu, a one clan entity, nationalist.

 

A call for electoral responsibility. Of all my studies of history, I have never witnessed any other people electorally irresponsible as Somalis. In the very short history of our nation, we have experimented with everything democracy, dictatorship, oligargy, scientific socialism, capitalism and a host of other isms that is not in the interest of the Somali people or country. The roads that lead to will being for Somalia can only be two: anarchy in which each group is left to do what every they want but can peacefully coexist with the other or a return statehood avoiding all these radicals isms. the Icu does not lead to either end.

[Naxar Nugaaleed]

please respond with the heading Poison and tell us why or panacea and tell us why.

[General Duke]

Poison, there is no place for clan agenda cloaked in Islam. Somalia needs a functioning governemnt and not further isolation from the world.

[NASSIR]

"Clan matters In Somalia. "

 

It matters not in negative ways but in positive ways. We need the style of the old SYL, whereby its founders concealed their tribal identities from the society while internally they picked the most capable from every major Somali clan. They also understood simply what leadership is.

For instance, there are three S characteristics that manifest in leadership: Signal, Symbol, and System. When a leader signals, he articulates a vision, gives it form and life, and reinforce it all by constant repetition. Repeating will instill in everyone a sense of seriousness and confidence as well elevating their level of understanding the message. Symbol is the action the leader demonstrates. Finally, the leader must have a system that sets the guidelines for a set of actions, develops policies, and punish and discourage members from deviating their assigned roles.

 

The SYL were success to our nation. They also saught our independence in a direct action not violantly but peacefully.

[Bakar]

Originally posted by Naxar Nugaaleed:

please respond with the heading Poison and tell us why or panacea and tell us why.

When requiring public opinion, biased and misleading elements found in your post are unethical, because you are asking our honest opinion, while you subjectively concluded that ICU is a poison. What you should do is this: write why ICU is perceived as a solution to the political crises, and also why one group (I suppose yours) thinks that they are the cause of the problem. Or, you could write your disdain with them on the basis of your tribal point of view. It is one thing to ask and obtain honest response, but misleading and clouding the reality on the ground is another.