Baashi Posted July 11, 2005 Executive Summary Full report in pdf file FYI, CGI is a high profile interest group. One can't help but acknowledge the impressive names in its board of trustees. Take a look: Chair Lord Patten of Barnes Former European Commissioner for External Relations, UK President & CEO Gareth Evans Former Foreign Minister of Australia Executive Committee Morton Abramowitz Former U.S. Assistant Secretary of State and Ambassador to Turkey Emma Bonino Member of European Parliament; former European Commissioner Cheryl Carolus Former South African High Commissioner to the UK; former Secretary General of the ANC Maria Livanos Cattaui* Former Secretary-General, International Chamber of Commerce Yoichi Funabashi Chief Diplomatic Correspondent & Columnist, The Asahi Shimbun, Japan William Shawcross Journalist and author, UK Stephen Solarz* Former U.S. Congressman George Soros Chairman, Open Society Institute William O. Taylor Chairman Emeritus, The Boston Globe, U.S. *Vice-Chair Adnan Abu-Odeh Former Political Adviser to King Abdullah II and to King Hussein; former Jordan Permanent Representative to UN Kenneth Adelman Former U.S. Ambassador and Director of the Arms Control and Disarmament Agency Ersin Arioglu Member of Parliament, Turkey; Chairman Emeritus, Yapi Merkezi Group Diego Arria Former Ambassador of Venezuela to the UN Zbigniew Brzezinski Former U.S. National Security Advisor to the President Victor Chu Chairman, First Eastern Investment Group, Hong Kong Wesley Clark Former NATO Supreme Allied Commander, Europe Pat Cox Former President of European Parliament Ruth Dreifuss Former President, Switzerland Uffe Ellemann-Jensen Former Minister of Foreign Affairs, Denmark Mark Eyskens Former Prime Minister of Belgium Leslie H. Gelb President Emeritus of Council on Foreign Relations, U.S. Bronislaw Geremek Former Minister of Foreign Affairs, Poland I.K. Gujral Former Prime Minister of India Carla Hills Former U.S. Secretary of Housing; former U.S. Trade Representative Lena Hjelm-Wallén Former Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Affairs Minister, Sweden James C.F. Huang Deputy Secretary General to the President, Taiwan Swanee Hunt Chair of Inclusive Security: Women Waging Peace; former U.S. Ambassador to Austria Asma Jahangir UN Special Rapporteur on Extrajudicial, Summary or Arbitrary Executions; former Chair Human Rights Commission of Pakistan Shiv Vikram Khemka Founder and Executive Director (Russia) of SUN Group, India James V. Kimsey Founder and Chairman Emeritus of America Online, Inc. (AOL) Bethuel Kiplagat Former Permanent Secretary, Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Kenya Wim Kok Former Prime Minister, Netherlands Trifun Kostovski Member of Parliament, Macedonia; founder of Kometal Trade Gmbh Elliott F. Kulick Chairman, Pegasus International, U.S. Joanne Leedom-Ackerman Novelist and journalist, U.S. Todung Mulya Lubis Human rights lawyer and author, Indonesia Ayo Obe Chair of Steering Committee of World Movement for Democracy, Nigeria Christine Ockrent Journalist and author, France Friedbert Pflüger Foreign Policy Spokesman of the CDU/CSU Parliamentary Group in the German Bundestag Victor M. Pinchuk Member of Parliament, Ukraine; founder of Interpipe Scientific and Industrial Production Group Surin Pitsuwan Former Minister of Foreign Affairs, Thailand Itamar Rabinovich President of Tel Aviv University; former Israeli Ambassador to the U.S. and Chief Negotiator with Syria Fidel V. Ramos Former President of the Philippines Lord Robertson of Port Ellen Former Secretary General of NATO; former Defence Secretary, UK Mohamed Sahnoun Special Adviser to the United Nations Secretary- General on Africa Ghassan Salamé Former Minister Lebanon, Professor of International Relations, Paris Salim A. Salim Former Prime Minister of Tanzania; former Secretary General of the Organisation of African Unity Douglas Schoen Founding Partner of Penn, Schoen & Berland Associates, U.S. Pär Stenbäck Former Minister of Foreign Affairs, Finland Thorvald Stoltenberg Former Minister of Foreign Affairs, Norway Grigory Yavlinsky Chairman of Yabloko Party and its Duma faction, Russia Uta Zapf Chairperson of the German Bundestag Subcommittee on Disarmament, Arms Control and Non-proliferation Ernesto Zedillo Former President of Mexico; Director, Yale Center for the Study of Globalization Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Suldaanka Posted July 11, 2005 Bashi This time the ICG has put up something to your liking and you seem very happy. hmmm :eek: I thought the killings of the Aid workers in Somaliland was purely apolitical done by Abdiqasim and his henchmen. But looks like there is a vast network of interconnected operatives. Kudos to the people of Dhoqoshay for their bravery in capturing the killers, that was really the straw that broke the camels back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BN Posted July 11, 2005 Originally posted by Suldaaanka: Kudos to the people of Dhoqoshay for their bravery in capturing the killers, that was really the straw that broke the camels back. ^^ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muhammad Posted July 12, 2005 Intersting! hmmm... i didn't know the blind could see through hearing the whispers of others!! yaa tanna awrkiisa ku kac san? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shirwac Posted July 12, 2005 ICG sounds suspect...where are my conspiracy theorists crew?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LANDER Posted July 13, 2005 Originally posted by Baashi: Executive Summary Full report in pdf file FYI, CGI is a high profile interest group . ^ most would refer to it as a non-profit, non-governmental organization (NGO) but I guess no article can escape a prelude from our chief political analyst here at SOL. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baashi Posted July 13, 2005 Originally posted by Suldaaanka: Bashi This time the ICG has put up something to your liking and you seem very happy. hmmm :eek: Awoowe waad degdegtay . I merely posted informative and relevant report. I didn’t comment on it yet. Originally posted by LANDER: quote:Originally posted by Baashi: Executive Summary Full report in pdf file FYI, CGI is a high profile interest group . ^ most would refer to it as a non-profit, non-governmental organization (NGO) but I guess no article can escape a prelude from our chief political analyst here at SOL. If u say so SOL chief Editor-at-Large Yes ICG is a non-profit and NGO. It's an interest group. But make no mistake this is not your typical NGO. They don’t feed the poor or champion debt forgiveness cause. They deal with political contraversies that cause armed conflicts. I view them as a think tank who have a specific political interests. They analyse political situations of countries such as ours and make ill-equipped and uninformed conclusions. They then take the role of loppyists and advocacy groups and impose their panecea-like political recommendations by trageting key decision-makers (positions they themselves held at one time or another) and their other valuable contacts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Suldaanka Posted July 13, 2005 ^^ Markaad faraxsantay it is too obvious, no need for comments. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baashi Posted July 13, 2005 Actually I was upset There was nothing uplifting in this report. I was displeased... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Suldaanka Posted July 13, 2005 ^^^ yeah right Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baashi Posted July 13, 2005 If you read the report, its authors are trying to pull the rug under the old man. In fact they implicitly call yet another reconcilliation conference for they consider this TFG as divisive and provocative as well. You see Suldaanka sidaa aad u degdegtay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Suldaanka Posted July 13, 2005 The main theme of the report was on terrorism in Somalia and as far as that was concerned it didn't disappoint Col. Yey and his supporters. But whether or not that will produce the kind of support that Col. Yey recieved when he accused Col. JAJ of being supported by AIAI which had a base in Shimbiraale, remains to be seen. It gives Ethiopia a boost to its grand plans which suffered serius setbacks recently, however. But all that aside, i don't think this report will have any significant impact on the USA and the EU who by now understand being neutral to the internal Somali conflict is their best option. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baashi Posted July 13, 2005 So u reckon I support Ethiopian plans in Somalia and by extension the Col. Yey's quest for the seat? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Suldaanka Posted July 13, 2005 ^^ :eek: Well, we can say col. Yey is happy for his own reasons. And if Col. Yey is happy so does his supporters (commonsense ). And Ethiopia, she is happy for her own long established reasons. So where do you fit in at this happy moment that you seem to share? Obviously you seem like you are satisfied with the report. When I say satisfied, I mean, there were nomads here that used to demonise the ICG for publishing a report that they did not like. I don't know if you were one of those nomads but the impression I got was that every Col. Yey supporter hated it. :eek: And now, they look like they had taken a U turn. :eek: :eek: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baashi Posted July 13, 2005 ^ Common sense that fits in the fuzzy logic many nomads are known to susbcribe Yours is the typical and it goes like this: This report dismisses President of Transitional government of federal Somalia his Excellence Abdullahi Yussuf Ahmed . However, it support the fight gainst Somali version of "terrorism". The president is known to exploit this for political gains. Ethiopia supports president Abdullahi. And Abdullahi and Baashi happen to share clan affiliation. Even though Baashi is Somaliweyn and differs president Abdullahi in principle on many issue among them how to go forward in the reconcilliation front, on how to deal with Islamist, how to advance Somaliweyn agenda, etc., nevertheless the fact that the two share clan affiliation Baashi must support president Abdullahi. It follows that Baashi must be joyous when report as this one comes out for it's on the same page with Ethiopia the adamant supporter of president Abdullahi Yussuf Ahmed. Right on Suldaanka Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites