Question to political veterans!

[Khalaf]

Somali politics even from those who claim to support the courts for “islamic” reasons or nationalistic reasons are about tribe interest (not all) but the vast majority. But that aside, think about the big picture the new world order! What do you think about this and Somalia’s place in it now keeping in mind in the 90s there has been a surge of political islam and an islamization in Somalia and with that comes you know who!.

Is it unfound paranoia lead by the religious “fanatics” or is it a real conspiracy against the Muslim Nations? Do you really think Ethiopia backed by the West has the interest of Somalia and its people? somalia is strategic coastline, the red sea, ect.....Your thoughts!

 

 

First watch these short videos very important (4) and read this article! Article

 

Go to google video and type: America's campaign to suppress islam.

 

Video'>http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=400894684631274374&q=America%27s+campaign+to+suppress+islam]Video 1

[Cara.]

Is it unfound paranoia lead by the religious “fanatics” or is it a real conspiracy against the Muslim Nations?

 

Grandiose paranoia.

[Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar]

War maanta meeshaan Maxkamadaha iyo that group ama this group ma joogto, ma taalo. Maanta Amxaar, Xabash ah ayaa fadhigaaga -- xuduntii Soomaaliya ee Xamar -- ku xaarxaaraayo, juuq iyo jiiq mana leh.

 

Dhiig haduu na huri lahaa maanta waana huray. Walaahi tan inaa my worst nightmare u maleyn. Laakiin Eebbe baa joogo, kama quursaneyno. Amxaara tabar la'aa awalba, oo fuleynimo lagu ogaa wax ee tarayaan maleh hadaan iskaashano. Iskaashi kaliya ayaa loo baahanyahay, waa taas Xisbullaah iska dhicisay Yahuuda oo ifka maanta dowlada sadexaad ama afaraad lagu sheego ugu awood badan [Eebbaa awood lahee].

 

Xabash waala kicinaa. Kaariyaasha iyo inatareeyada ciidamada u saaran duqooway ay wataan ayaaba igu daran, hadee umaleyaan kuwaas inay wax ku tarayaan, waala arkaa. Kuwa maanta hoggaamiye ku sheega ah oo Xabash u dabanaageynaayo meeshee galaan hala arko that day when it arrives. I hope inay u cararin Addis Ababa.

 

We don't care what Bush and his neocons are. Amxaar xaarkiis ka carari jiray baa u jeednaa, hadee moodan inay wax u tarayaan, they will hugely be disapointed, as they were disappointed both in Ciraaq and Lubnaan.

 

To those who were supporting Maxkamadaha for ideological reasons -- I wasn't -- your sadness can be detected that it might have to do with the movement's losing than seeing kaare Xabash in Xamar's street. Maxkamadaha iyaga ayaa isdhigay meshee yaalaan, oo gafgaf, dafdaf iyo haadhaad oo intee heeso ban gareynayeen, intee salaad xoog ha lagu tukado lahayeen, intee ciyaalka timaha ka jarayeen, intee shaneemooyinka yaryar xiraayeen, intee isboortiga diidaayeen, intee Indhamadoowe dabada ku wateen [who eventually led them to this road] -- waxaas dhan looma joogin. They should have foreseen the big picture. Dadka la iskuma kiciyo. Waa kaasaa maanta dhalinyaradeena degmooyinka Xabashada ku heysato ku sugan complacency iska noqday, iskaba dhaaf resistance because telafashinkii laga joojiye, heesihii laga joojiye ayaa usoo noqday iyo timihii laga jaraaye ayaa laga dhaafay. Intaas ayee arkaan.

 

I digress, however. Maanta taas ma taalo. Maanta maalin ka murugo badan ma joogto. Xoolo iyaga ka daran ayaa Xabasho keenay, kuwa aan Soomaali aan ugu wici karin wax walba ha ahaatee.

[Somali_Friend]

As far as Ethiopia is concerned the ICU hate campaign was, lets throw anything on Ethiopia including the kitchen sink. In the process the ICU got really carried away and called for Jihad, called for taking Jijiga by force, called that Tigray should be overthrown (I know where they got this idea of Tigray and amazingly its from the Fascist Mengistu children who buthered ethiopians in the name of socialism)...yada yada....

 

They were trying anything. Islam was not spared, and was muddied as anything else. The title Shiek may not remain the same after ICU experience.

 

 

It is pure political opportunism and propaganda that comes from it. Ethiopia is incapable to be against Islam even if we become so cynical and suspect some leaders, the country doesn't have any factors that can make it anti-Islamic.

 

Yes sects always have a hard time in ethiopia. Not just Islam, but also christianity. There is only some tens of thousand catholics after all the effort from Rome.

Iran has one cultural center and has not made any headway in ethiopia, but in Sudan there is already contraversy, but Iran has 4 cultural centers there.

 

In conclusion:

Don't include ethiopia in the new world order thing.

[Wisdom_Seeker]

Why should we, you ETs are just puppets of America.

 

Aisha Yusuf and Amina Gedi may be meles puppets but America is p!mping you ETs

[Caaqil_nabadoon]

I don’t believe conspiracy theory for a minute; those western countries destroyed Somalia through Ethiopia proxy war. no my freind, If interested western could control the red sea, India Ocean and Somali minerals without destroying it. Through crate, commerce and diplomatic means. New world order you say, to my understand it means if we cannot get our interest political means we will get military means nothing new. Okay now who destroyed Somalia? The filthy, dirty, disease of Somali culture.

The clan culture. We see every thing through clan lens. It affects every part of our daily lives. Just look Mogadishu, when Ethiopian Amy entered the city one side of the town

Celebrated and other side demonstrated. Even here Sol, the fadhi kudirir and cheerleaders

Are along the clan lines. Unless we find some kind of solution for this virus which rooted deep in vein. Somalia could cease to exists. One of the solutions was true Islamic law. But we just have been denied. I will have geven the midle finger the habash and the west. if we are only united. the only thing you get is what you are tough enough to get. the united we are the stronger we will be.

Democratically elected president Allaha unaxariistee. Cabdirashiid cali sharmaake.

Was murdered because of clan revenge.

[Somali_Friend]

Originally posted by mystic:

Why should we, you ETs are just puppets of America.

 

Aisha Yusuf and Amina Gedi may be meles puppets but America is p!mping you ETs

The language you used is a bit tough for me.LOL

Ethiopia existed before America was found in its current form and people (europeans). If China becomes the next big man we will still be there, I hope not as poor and backward as we are now.

 

Yes we are at the bottom of the tottem pole in some aspects, but not in everything. At least we deal directly with the bigman of the day. Wether french, british, american or russian we always dealt directly. Not through second hand or third hand.

 

Give us credit for one thing in the case of Somalia. We were able to say no to supporting the warlords fight with ICU to the US. We also welcomed the ICU, because we thought it was people who have had enough with the situation and want to welcome their government. It quickly changed.

 

Ethiopia also did not hand a single person from anywhere to Gitmo, where as Arab and so called Islamic countries were tripping over each other to do so. Ethiopia handed terrorists it captured to their birth countries.

 

Look at the picture of President Abdullahi Yusuf in China. Go back to the time it happened. That picture speaks a thousand words. It dramatically changed EU as well as US.

 

Give credit when you see it. Its only fair and also will make you feel better including your health.

[rudy-Diiriye]

peasant! dont kid your self!

i guess u can take the farm-boy outta of the farm, but u cant take the farm outta of the farm-boy!!

 

credit is due when the credit collectors call yah! we havent call yet!! wait 4 the ring!! does that ring a bell... meantime, glow in you first qtrs td, but remember, pay-back is due!!

 

this the online version! traditional pay back will come in not nicer way! u feel me!!

 

i hope u dig deeper holes in the the farm to hide!! cuz, tigre aint no friend of somalis no mo! u dig!!

 

u dead meat!! so i guess, yall be supper 4 the rest of xabashis!! :eek:

[Taliban]

Originally posted by Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar:

Amxaara tabar la'aa awalba, oo fuleynimo lagu ogaa wax ee tarayaan maleh hadaan iskaashano. Iskaashi kaliya ayaa loo baahanyahay, waa taas Xisbullaah iska dhicisay Yahuuda oo ifka maanta dowlada sadexaad ama afaraad lagu sheego ugu awood badan [Eebbaa awood lahee].

 

Xabash waala kicinaa. Kaariyaasha iyo inatareeyada ciidamada u saaran duqooway ay wataan ayaaba igu daran, hadee umaleyaan kuwaas inay wax ku tarayaan, waala arkaa. Kuwa maanta hoggaamiye ku sheega ah oo Xabash u dabanaageynaayo meeshee galaan hala arko that day when it arrives. I hope inay u cararin Addis Ababa.

 

We don't care what Bush and his neocons are. Amxaar xaarkiis ka carari jiray baa u jeednaa, hadee moodan inay wax u tarayaan, they will hugely be disapointed, as they were disappointed both in Ciraaq and Lubnaan.

Does Islam teach ridiculing or making fun of your enemy's tabar la'aanimo, fuleynimo, wax matarenimo, injirleeynimo or shortcomings? :confused: