General Duke Posted February 13, 2009 Al Shabaab vow war against new govt, port attacked 12 Feb 12, 2009 - 8:35:46 AM MOGADISHU, Somalia Feb 12 (Garowe Online) - Islamist hardliners in Somalia have vowed more war against the country's new government Thursday, as suspected insurgents targeted Mogadishu's main seaport with mortars, Radio Garowe reports. Muktar Robow "Abu Mansur," spokesman for al Shabaab, told a press conference at the former parliament hall in Baidoa that new Somali President Sheikh Sharif Ahmed is "far from the Mujahideen." Al Shabaab "The Mujahideen have won and will continue the war against foreign troops in the country [somalia] and the ones who will be coming," Abu Mansur said, while referring to a 3,500-strong African Union peacekeeping contingent serving in Mogadishu known as AMISOM. He rejected widespread media reports that he traveled to Mogadishu earlier this week to meet with President Sheikh Sharif in person, saying that such reports spread by people who want to divide al Shabaab. "I did not meet with Sheikh Sharif nor will I meet with him and I urge the Mujahideen to unite and to fight the new government," Abu Mansur declared. Al Shabaab's spokesman expressed strong words for a group of self-appointed Somali Muslim scholars who have been leading efforts to mediate among Islamist factions. He accused the scholars, led by Sheikh Bashir Ahmed Salad, of being "allies" of new President Sheikh Sharif, while warning the scholars not to label al Shabaab as "Khawarij," a reference to an Islamic cult that spearheaded bloodshed among Muslims centuries ago. Abu Mansur also called on Somali government forces in Bakool region to "surrender and become citizens" or face war. READ: Tensions in SW Somalia between govt forces, al Shabaab He said that a ship transporting new weapons for AMISOM peacekeepers is docked at Mogadishu's main port, giving al Shabaab enough reason to target the port with mortar bombs. But AMISOM spokesman Maj. Bahoku Barigye said four Somali civilians were killed in the mortar attack, while categorically dismissing Abu Mansur's allegations. "We are not unloading weapons at the port, but we received vehicles and food donated by the world," the AMISOM spokesman stated. He condemned Abu Mansur's armed group for killing "innocent Somalis as usual." At least seven other people were wounded in the attack. President Sheikh Sharif had told reporters after spending three days in Mogadishu that he met with leaders of the insurgency, including representatives from al Shabaab and the Islamic Party, a new Islamist coalition. READ: President claims to have spoken with anti-govt groups Somalia's former president, Col. Abdullahi Yusuf, had advised the incoming leader to confront al Shabaab, which is listed as a terror organization by the U.S. government. Source: Garowe Online Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gabbal Posted February 13, 2009 And this is the reality we face. We wait and see how Shiekh Sharif's government can tackle this monumental conundrum in the Somali country. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted February 13, 2009 ^^^What is this new admin that the Hizbul Islam group created for Gedo? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gabbal Posted February 13, 2009 Originally posted by General Duke: ^^^What is this new admin that the Hizbul Islam group created for Gedo? Part of the same monumental conundrum I am talking about. But this was my response to a similar question posed by Xiin yesterday: Originally posted by HornAfrique: It is not really known how this is going to come about Xiin. As you know there is a maamul that already exists and the many members of the muqaawama group interact very bi-partisan manner. For example, the overhead of the whole movement in the region Shiekh Gadaashay is of the Asmara-Hassan Dahir camp whereas Shiekh Jibriil is Al Shabaab and Barre Qooje who responded to last Ethiopian foray in Baardheere is Al Itixaad. However, Shiekh Gadaashay and his men have recently been in Xamar and are now in Afgooye. Perhaps this is something he is well aware of and joined but allahu aclam as of now. However, what is known is that they have all taken the same stance as AL Shabaab and the new "Xisbi" with respect to Shiekh Sharif's infant government. [/QB] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted February 13, 2009 ^^^So this new admin will be the old Al Shabaab one renamed? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir-Qalbi-Adeyg Posted February 13, 2009 waxaan al shabab isku bixiyay waa wada 'menace', what exactly do they get by waging war on their own people? They need to be contained fast, shieck sharif should try to get them to be part of the somali army, negotiate with their leaders etc. This endless war needs to stop. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gabbal Posted February 13, 2009 Originally posted by General Duke: ^^^So this new admin will be the old Al Shabaab one renamed? Most likely. It is symbolic in a way. Al Shabaab is the old, Xisbul Islam is supposed to be the new unitary (talk about irony ) opposition. Naming the old administration as Xisbul Islam gives the new alliance a symbolic significance. On the ground though, nothing will really change. The only interesting thing is that the Gedo region was chosen to implement this new system mostly like because the Islamists faced the least opposition from the civilian population in this region. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted February 13, 2009 Al Shabaab is a silly name, 'youth' the new name sounds serious and grown up. Hizbu-Allah comes to mind. However why have Abu Mansuur, Goodnae & Shangool not been incorporated into this group, is there an issue with Turki? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gabbal Posted February 13, 2009 Originally posted by General Duke: Al Shabaab is a silly name, 'youth' the new name sounds serious and grown up. Hizbu-Allah comes to mind. However why have Abu Mansuur, Goodnae & Shangool not been incorporated into this group, is there an issue with Turki? Turki represents the highest leadership of the Xisb along with with Cumar Iimaan. Abu Mansuur, Godane, and Shagole are soldiers. They do not represent the ideological bureau of the movement and in a religious movement such as the one in Somalia, the ideological bureau is the executive as well as legislative branch. In the end they will succumb. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted February 13, 2009 ^^^I know he does but an issue between him and the Al Shabaab folks? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kashafa Posted February 14, 2009 In the end they will succumb Lol. Iz you ok in the head, abti ? Succumb ? to who ? Ethiopia ? Antarnanshanal Kamoonity ? The xaraan-ku-nax clan militia of Hiraale, Qaybdiid, Shaykh "Shaykh Hotel" Shariif ? Scholars-$4$-Dollars like Janaqow and Ahmed Madoobe ? Succumb to who and what exactly ? Oh, oh, oh, maybe you mean succumb to authority of the Transishanal Fadaral Gabamant aka Tigray Founded Government, now that it has been 'sanitized' by the Holy Presence of the Saviour Himself. Lol@ defeated men and their IsQancis dreamin'. Abti, ain't no succumbing happenin', thas one word that has no place in the Gobonimo-doon dictionary(G-haadi edition). Dictating tho, is prominently placed. 'Cuz thats what we do: Dictate, call the shots, make the plays, ride or die, save the day. Thoroughbreds 4 life. Get it poppin', abti. Takeover of Kismayo, and the destruction and humiliation of your clan militia should've been enough of a lesson for you. Guess it wasn't. Guess you need more lessons. Will happily oblige, inshallah. If there is one thing that Sons of Somalia specialise in, it is how spectacularly they destroy clan pride and clan militia, so well-done it's almost an art form. The next b!tch-niggaz on the block who are about to get stomped is Nur Cade-Shaykh Hotel clan militia. You heard it here first. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nephissa Posted February 14, 2009 Kashafaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!! Welcome back chief. Biif-Baafkaagii waa loo xiisay 2-dan beri, cayayaankii waa soo batay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kashafa Posted February 14, 2009 ^^ Thanks, Nephisa. I hope I get enough time, saa sheegtay, IsQancis-mania is running buck-wild throughout SOL with the coronation(not election) of Shaykh Hotel, whilst reason and principles and logic have all been laid off, fired actually. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Allamagan Posted February 15, 2009 ^ waraa I didnt know you were a big fan of Young Buck. thank you for the link tho. Btw tell this to WC crew, lixle, haybe, shiine, dalmar and the rest of the crew (ciyaalka xaafada). Say lil respect and change that old tune... usheeg! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites