Latest news from Sanaag

[Suldaanka]

--- General news as of before Sun Set local time.

 

- A total of 14 ministers and a number of MPs are currently touring Sanaag

- A total of 21 International and local NGOs are also touring trying to assess the needs of the locals

- Somaliland government officials are holding talks with locals in Both Dhahar and Badhan city

- A number of Ministers are touring Southern Sanaag

- SL Minister of National Planning held a general meeting with the head of the Region and leaders of Erigavo in Beerta Xoriyadda in Ceerigaabo

 

 

Other developments

 

- A heavily armed Somaliland military has reached the vicinity of Dhahar city

 

- Traditional elders asked Somaliland Officials to remove their armed supporters from the city centre after the local armed supporters successfully stopped a Puntland advance. Locals also asked the Puntland melitia not to attack and bring their armed people into the city

 

- Somaliland officials are going about business as usual inside Dhahar city .

 

- Somaliland lost 1 soldier and 3 wounded. Puntland's death toll and wounded soldiers is said to be much higher. Also Somaliland destroyed one and captured another technical vehicle from Puntland side.

[Che -Guevara]

General news as of before Sun Set local time.

 

- A total of 14 ministers and 19 MPs are currently touring Sanaag

- A total of 21 International and local NGOs are also touring trying to assess the needs of the locals

- Puntland government officials are holding talks with locals in Both Dhahar and Badhan city

- A number of Ministers are touring Southern Sanaag

- PL Minister of National Planning held a general meeting with the head of the Region and leaders of Erigavo in Beerta Xoriyadda in Ceerigaabo

 

 

Other developments

 

- A heavily armed Puntland military has reached the vicinity of Dhahar city

 

- Locals asked Puntland Officials to remove their armed supporters from the city centre after the locals successfully stopped a Somaliland advance. Locals also asked the Somaliland melitia not to attack and bring their armed people into the city

 

- Puntland officials are going about business as usual inside Dhahar city .

 

- Puntland lost 1 soldier and 3 wounded. Somaliland's death toll and wounded soldiers is said to be much higher. Also Puntland destroyed one and captured another technical vehicle from Somaliland side.

[Suldaanka]

^^

 

 

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Maanta waxaa shirk u qabtay magaalada ceergaabo wefti balaadhan,oo ka koobnaa 13 wasiir, 3 xildhibaan, iyo wefti ka socda 30 hay’adood, iyo wasiir ku xigeeno

 

Weftigaas oo ka khudbadeeyey beerta xuriyada ayaa socdaalkooda ku asteeyey Inay u socdaan barnaamij ah maamul fidin ah kaas oo lagu samaynayo dhamaan hay,adaha dawlada ee goboladaiyo degmooyinka Sland.

 

Waxaa furay maayarka degmada Mudane: Ismail X Nuur kaas oo ku soo dhoweeyey weftiga. Waxa kale oo ka hadlay badhasaab ku xigeenka gobolka Mr C/casiis Xasan Isaga oo ka hadlay kana war bixiyey gobolka, iyo degmooyinkiisa. Iyo in gobolku ka kooban yahay 10 degmo weftiguna soo maray 5 ka mid ah inta kalena diyaar u tahay

 

Waxaa kale oo ka hadlay laba caaqil oo kala ahaa; jiif caaqil C/kariin Ducaale iyi caaqil Axmed Xaashi. Iyada oo uu aad uga hadlay Jiifcaaqil C/kariin Ducaale kana jeediyey khudbad qiimo leh oo uu gobolka hadlay iyo baahiyihiisa aadna loogu sacabo tumay.

 

Waxaa kale oo iyana lagu soo dhoweeyey xildhibanadii gobolka oo uu u hadlay Mudane:

 

Maxamed Cali Cumar Jabaabul isna khubad kooban ka jeediyey.

 

Waxaa kale oo ka hadlay W/dawlaha Caafimaadka Axmed Cali Shire isaga oo socdaalkooda ka waramay darafna ka taabtay baahida gobolka.

 

Waxaa lagu wareejiyey micrifoonki wasiirka qorshay qaran Mudane Cali Ibraahin (cali sanyare) oo ahaa kan aadka loo sugayey. Isaga oo socdaalkoodii ka warmay isaga sheegay inay wadaan barnaamij balaadhan ah mid ay ka cawiyeen hay.adaha deeqda bixiya, kaas oo wada gaadhaya dhamaan degmooyinka dalka. Iyaga oo hadda u socda Sidii ay qiimayn ugu samayn lahaayeen baahiyaha gobolka.

 

Wuxuu kaloo sheegay inay dejinayaan hay’adahaa gobolka waxna ka qabandoonaan. Waxa isna ka hadlay wasiirka arimaha debebada Mr C/laahi Ducaale (dhoolayare) Isaga sii faahfaahiyey socdaalkooda kuna booriyey dadka reer sanaag inay midoobaan. Waxqabadka gobolkana u soo wada jeestaan. isaga oo soo gunaanaday shirkii.

 

 

 

 

[Che -Guevara]

LoooooL....Ok that was the good feel story. What's real story Suldaan?

 

 

P.S. The good people of Dhahar should tell these miscreants from Garowe and Hargiesa to go back whereever they came from.

[Suldaanka]

^^The difference between Somaliland side and the Puntland side is that clear fact that Puntland is doing nothing for those people and they always try to stirr trouble "Khalkhal abuur" when Somaliland comes to try to fill the vacuum.

 

Somaliland is here trying to see what the locals need and wants to try to bring more international support for the locals but the Puntland side neither wants to do anything for them nor wants anyone else to do the job they failed to do.

[Che -Guevara]

^^^Neither wants to do anything for these people as both admins use calool ushaqeestayaal. I think the good people of Sool, Sanaag, and Buhoodle should just should decide their own destiny, and set up their own administration till a proper Somali goverment is reborn.

[Suldaanka]

^^There might be those Calool ushaqeeyste but I can't say everyone is like that.

 

Somaliland brings together the top people from Eastern Sanaag, Buuhoodle and Sool to represent them. These are people who were in the political arena since the 1960s and include the likes of Qaybe, Fagadhe, Gees, Cadami etc. These are the statesmen who hail from those regions. I do think everyone of them wants whats good for his region and people.

 

But the problem here is the "Clanism" card which Puntland obviously uses in times of desparate measures. Just like Bush and Johnny Howard use the fear factor of terrorism to try to get more support, the Puntland side uses the clan factor to keep these people in their state.

 

Somaliland is open to all its citizens and everyone has equal right to have his share of the cake. From Awdal to Sanaag, Somaliland will try to appeal to everyone to come onboard. Those who refuse because of clanish reasons, there is nothing we can do for them but we will still appeal for them to join the Somaliland family.

[Taleexi]

Originally posted by Suldaanka:

^^The difference between Somaliland side and the Puntland side is that clear fact that Puntland is doing nothing for those people and they always try to stirr trouble "Khalkhal abuur" when Somaliland comes to try to fill the vacuum.

 

Somaliland is here trying to see what the locals need and wants to try to bring more international support for the locals but the Puntland side neither wants to do anything for them nor wants anyone else to do the job they failed to do.

I think you missed that we are living in the information age. BTW, Your administration needs to assist its citizens, you know whom I mean, first and then the neighbors if need might be.

[Suldaanka]

^^Its is not the Somaliland administration which provides the aide, its the international community.

 

Somaliland government would love to have the means and the money to support and develop its nation, but the sad reality is the little money that coming into the coffers are spent on administration and peace keeping and hardly anything is left for development.

 

But what Somaliland government is able to do is to facilitate the communication and guidance between the locals and the international community. Rer Gabiley understood this first and benefited a lot, rer Awdal were next to understand, while the rest of SOmaliland communities were waiting for the Somaliland administration to spoonfeed them.

 

Now, the people in Salahley, Oodweine, Burao, Sahel are all on board and are trying to help themselves first so that they international community through Somaliland government will help them too. Now the ball is on the Sool and Sanaag regions. Most of Sanaag are on board and parts of Sool. Eastern Sanaag and other parts of Sool need to capitalise on this for the benefit of their people.

[Taleexi]

Originally posted by Suldaanka:

^^Its is not the Somaliland administration which provides the aide, its the international community.

 

Somaliland government would love to have the means and the money to support and develop its nation, but the sad reality is the little money that coming into the coffers are spent on administration and peace keeping and hardly anything is left for development.

 

But what Somaliland government is able to do is to facilitate the communication and guidance between the locals and the international community. Rer Gabiley understood this first and benefited a lot, rer Awdal were next to understand, while the rest of SOmaliland communities were waiting for the Somaliland administration to spoonfeed them.

 

Now, the people in Salahley, Oodweine, Burao, Sahel are all on board and are trying to help themselves first so that they international community through Somaliland government will help them too. Now the ball is on the Sool and Sanaag regions. Most of Sanaag are on board and parts of Sool. Eastern Sanaag and other parts of Sool need to capitalise on this for the benefit of their people.

Good elaborations on your part but, in my opinion, this seems to lack objectivity and substance. Is Somaliland only and the only avenue that the outside world can be reached?, I guess not.

[Suldaanka]

^^ Ask yourself, why Puntland isn't doing anything for the parts of Sool that come under it, for instance?

 

The parts of Sool which come under Somaliland recieve all the benefits including annual immunisation drives, food aide, etc. Yagoori now has a brand new Police station with uniformed unarmed police officers. It also recently got a local MCH clinic for women and kids. Xuddun district was about to recieve these benefits but it was Puntland melitia that created trouble there and the worse thing Xuddun has neither MCH nor a police station upto now. These are the basics that every village in Somaliland sports.

 

There are a lot more UN and NGO presence in Hargeysa than in Garoowe. And the offices in Hargeysa have higher status in terms of their scope of work and their ability to make decisions. Its also a fact that most of the NGOs and UN shuttle offices in Garowe refer to Nairobi via Hargeisa offices.

[Taleexi]

Originally posted by Suldaanka:

^^ Ask yourself, why Puntland isn't doing anything for the parts of Sool that come under it, for instance?

 

The parts of Sool which come under Somaliland recieve all the benefits including annual immunisation drives, food aide, etc. Yagoori now has a brand new Police station with uniformed unarmed police officers. It also recently got a local MCH clinic for women and kids. Xuddun district was about to recieve these benefits but it was Puntland melitia that created trouble there and the worse thing Xuddun has neither MCH nor a police station upto now. These are the basics that every village in Somaliland sports.

Is it PL Vs SL in terms of dominance and land grabbing or the indigenous has the right for self-determination, or do they have the choice of giving their allegiance whomever they want?,or are these people somehow lack the capabilities and skills of running their own affairs like their neighbors?, or somehow you are calling for that they are inferior species that deserve to be ruled by others?. Those and others are the fundamental questions that one in a rational mind would ask first?.

 

The way I see it, you administration setting up a clinic in a small town even though its existence is a matter which is open to a debate, while your administration oppresses and deprives the desires of the locals,that is just "Cantara Baqash" and if that is your argument let us wait and see whom history judges to be on the right side. Remember, your people needs more clinics and what not than the considered people.

[Che -Guevara]

Suldaan....LooooooooL@Clanism

 

You owe your entire existence as state to clanism. The last time I checked no son of Buhoodle, Sool, Eastern Sanaag, and even Awdal died for the "liberation" of Somaliland.

[Taleexi]

Originally posted by Che-Guevara:

Suldaan....LooooooooL@Clanism

 

You owe your entire existence as state to clanism. The last time I checked no son of Buhoodle, Sool, Eastern Sanaag, and even Awdal died for the "liberation" of Somaliland.

Well Put Mr.Che-Guevara

[Suldaanka]

Che,

Doqontu halkii lagu dagaalamay farta ayay ku fiiqda halkii lagu heshiiyey waligeed waa ka indho la'day. Mind you, I am just reciting the phrase.

 

That ugly chapter was closed for too long. The new chapter is about peace building, about development about brotherly neighbors, about working together, all that is good for a healthy and functioning society. You are blind to these, I am sure.

 

 

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Mansa Munsa

Of course everyone needs whatever benefits that they can get. But I was just stating the facts. Call it cantrabaqash but that is how it is.

 

As for your series of questions. I don't know about Puntland, but you seem to have an inherent misunderstanding of Somaliland and the way it works.

 

Let me break it down for you. No one rules no one in Somaliland. Somaliland has a highly decentralised democractic governance, although not yet perfect.

 

Let me give you an example, rer Awdal elect their own leaders, Borama which is the capital of Awdal elects its own leaders, Lughaya which is another city in Awdal elects its own leaders, Zeyla is the same. No district rules another, no region rules another. Everyone runs his own area in a democratic way.

 

The same goes for the rest of Somaliland, from Gabiley to Erigavo. The people elect their leaders from their own local people.

 

The central government is also an elected body with a proportionally distrubuted executive branch. There is an equal number of ministers proportional to represent all sectors in Somaliland.

 

The aim is to create something which is representative of the locals, sometthing the locals elect from the street level to the regional level to the state level. It is not yet perfect but that is the aim.

 

Now, if I get back to what you said, rer Sool are no less nor inferior to other Somaliland communities but its the outside interference and internal disorganisation which have made them divided.

 

What Somaliland is offering is for Sool people to rule their region by themselves. For Lascanood people to rule themselves and elect their own leaders through the balletbox. For Sool to have an equal access to all that is available through Somaliland just like all the other regions without favourship or kinship discrimination.