A New Somalia

[Yusufaddie]

Salaam,

It is possible to have a new Somalia based entirely on Islam. All the other "Muslim Countries in the world use the shariah however they add constitutional law as well. There is no addition or extraction from shariah.

UI have devised a plan to liberate part of Somalia from the chaos that it is in soley for the sake of Allah. I would promote local Enterprise as well as international. The whole project requires $21,865,690.00 USD. This is not for the whole of Somalia however, as Allah says in the quran let there be a party among you who uphold truth and justice.

I am asking you all 3 questions:

1: Suggest an area in Somalia which the people will allow this prject for 5 years,thereafter srutinized to decide if it should continue or not.

2: Are there any Tasawwuf Maashaikh in Somalia?, if so what Tariqat do they follow.

3: If a foreign person comes to execute this project and it is proven that he is honest and just and works soley for the pleasure of Allah and his deen, wol the people of Somalia accept him?

Shukran

[Oblivion]

Somalia is already an Islamic state.As for your project try Kismayo, eventhough your point isnt very clearly understood.In case you're doing this only & only for the sake of Allah, it's a Noble thing!And we wish you all the best.

But if you make any sectarian preconditions,I bet it's almost impossible to blackmail a NOMAD in the long run!

[Yusufaddie]

After one studies present day "islamic states" based on the shariah, there are no islmaic countries in the world existing today. and that is a fact!. the closest state representing islam is Sudan, however it is far off from the ideal islamic state. Let me give you some daleel on this. when ever something operates according to islam there is always prosperity. tell me one muslim country where the muslims are happy in islam! every country has there reservations.

An islamic state has many diffrent laws which aims to provide for its inhabitants. Today the islamic states follows democracy which caters for individual prosperity. let me show you how unfair this system is. America just spent billions of dollars with this 9/11 issue however it still has hungry people living in Arkansas and the southern states not to mention those homeless ones. This democratic system that the so called islamic states follows is against the teachings of islam. and lastly just because the boy calls wolf, that does not mean that there really is on ( I hope you understand what i mean by that)

[unixguru]

Hi there. Yes, the Somali people would love to have a project such as the one you just mentioned. But Somali's will not let a foreign person come into the country, they will not truest a foreigner, but don't worry that’s where I can help you. I’ll only need a small some of money to cover the expenses and get this project moving in the right track. I’ll need only a mere 3.4% of the $21,865,690.00. We can start with a Kismayo as Oblivion said. There is a large Tasawwuf Maashaikh community only 34.843 Miles to the northwest of Kismayo. I think the project could become a success if we work together. Let us help these people. Inshallah with the 3.4% I will be able to begin doing more in-depth research on the Geo-social dynamics of our target region. You can wire the funds to me via Dahabsheel in Virginia USA. And I’ll email you my findings. Let’s roll.

[Yusufaddie]

Could you elaborate on Kismayo? is it a coastal town? what is the population. Is there a warlord there now? how does the fractions look at kismayo?

[LadyFatima]

lol@Unix.............Oh C'mon give it a rest!!

 

 

Yusuf...I'm just wondering Why Somalia? Why not Sudan or Afghanistan or Plastine or any where else on the Muslim World... Why Somalia?

 

 

Ma'salaama

[unixguru]

Yes there is a warlord, his name is Barre Hiiraale and he is affiliated with the Juba Valley Alliances (JVA) . He is of the Mareejaan clan. The population is about 500,000.

 

The friction in the region is high. Kismayo is a very important port city... The main players we are going to be dealing with include the JVA, the Rahanweyn Resistance Army (RRA), and Morgan of the Somali Patriotic Movement (SPM)... He whole controls Kismayo sways great power in the southern region. But the situation is not so bad that we will not be able to success. As a matter of fact, I think we can take the whole regions with as little as $1 million. Cash really really really talks in Somalia, even loader than the guns.

 

So any way, lets get this show on the road, inshallah the sooner you can wire me the funds the sooner we can get started.

 

Again here is the info you will need to give to dahabsheel

 

Name: Unix Yussuf Guru

Location: Virginia, USA

 

“Today Kismayo, tomorrow the world.” ...muhahaha...

 

 

[This message has been edited by unixguru (edited 12-28-2001).]

[LadyFatima]

Oh Unix I didn't think you could be bought that easily?

[Yusufaddie]

The reason why Somalia is because firstly the fact is that the government is not recognized. What this means is that we would not have to deal with our own brethren who runs the country according to a kaafir system. the only way for muslims to be defeated is when they fight among themselves. the second reason is because of the poverty level which branches in two parts a: that we would get barakah for helping them and B) the people would be more loyal to us and actually and honestly help us to build the country. The Third reason is that the people already consider themselves muslims so one does not have to worry about converting. the fourth is that they accept tasawwuf as an integral part in islam and fifth the land is huge and insha-Allah once our neighbours realize that the country can run well under islamic shariah, i anticipate that we would have a lot of refugees from neighbouring islands which those countries would have to free up some land under our control. the final product out of this is that the Khali8fah system be revived bringing back honour to muslims again.

Unix Studies are not to be conducted initially,. the first project for developement is to build 4 OTEC's which would supply Desalinated water ( about 16,000 Gallons a day), Electricity, Air Conditioning and most importantly Plakton rich water for aquaculture. he aquaculture products such as shrimp, fish, sea moss etc. will be made for sales and export. I understand that there is uranium in Somalia and i believe that is why America will bomb Somalia in a while in the name of Terrorism just like they bombed Afghanistan, Did you all know that the baltic Sea has a huge deposit of Oil? America only needs a government in power who will allow them to run the pipe line through the country. oh sorry i forgot they have their own karzai government in already. i see the same thing happening to Somalia, and i hope that we can return to islam b4 it is lost. Also remmeber the hadith where rasullah made du;a to never let his ummah die from Starvation! and Allah replied that if they obey they will never be afflicted with famine or drought. is rasullah a liar? then why are these conditions there in Somalia?

[Oblivion]

Yusuf!

 

I cant help but ask how on earth do you allow yourself to call the holy Prophet(SAW) a "liar" twice in your messages no matter the context.

 

Softly speaking, I have a strong feeling that you're a fake with no respect for Islam.

 

 

[LadyFatima]

Oblivion Good Point......

 

 

Anyway, Yusuf, you have one heck of a imagination!! No matter your Intention though, the fact remains that you're a FOREIGNER..and as I told you already we don't like 'em in Somalia... thirdly, your not Doing this for the Sake of ISLAM nor SOMALIS..you have your Own lil agenda going on, I suggest that you take this "Idea" else where...... You're just using Allah/Islam as an excuse.

 

 

It says in the Quran ......And ALLAH knows best what they keep hidden in their hearts. 84:24

 

He is with you wheresoever you may be (57.5)

Nothing is hidden from Allah, in the earth or in the heaven (3.6).

Surely, thy Lord is on the watch (89.15).

He knows the treachery of the eyes and that which the minds conceal (40.20)!!

 

One piece of Advice... BE TRUE TO YOURSELF! Cuz you aint fooling me......

 

 

 

[This message has been edited by LadyFatima (edited 12-29-2001).]

[unixguru]

Oblivion, dude, fadumo abbayo macaan; guys, easy, we all have the same goal in mind

 

Hey Yusufaddie, don’t worry bro. We can achieve all that. Inshallah as soon as you can take care of the greens, the sooner we can get things rolling. Also, we have to get things moving politically before we can start helping the people. So when can I expect the funds?

 

[Yusufaddie]

Wallahi i know this project will not work! Firstly let me say this. i studied the Aaliyah program in trinidad http://www.islam.org.tt/darululoom/ u all can contact them if you wish for a reference on me. i will not even try to prove i am muslims to you all because it has no reward in doing that, it is between Allah and myself. But what i want to say is that even if a person comes to you and say they are muslims you have rights to give to him, no matter what his intentions are, Contrary to this is Shirk because only Allah is the knower of the hearts. to look at some one and form such opinions it is a disease in your all hearts that you all are aware of. For those of you whom this disease has spread through your whole body, you are thinkin now "Can you believe this guy!" yeah well just as i am saying the problem with the ummah today is the way muslims like yourselves think. you all do not help each other,instead you all form opinions as if Allah has made you all judges!

Please do not get me wrong, i am not trying to argue with anyone just to express these points to those who really want change and look in themselves to realize to problem starts with in.

Secondly i have realized that many people on the forum has a lot of islamic knowledge, but that's it. where is the '3ql ? you see '3lm is one thing but '3ql is a next.

Oblivion, let me break it down then. the speech was sacastic and rhetorical in a sense. it was not a statement that the prophet is a liar. READ CAREFULLY BEFORE YOU SPEAK!!!

All i would like from you all is information on Somalia, and by Allah you all are not the only source for this, as a matter of fact, when somalia revives do you all think you would be accepted back? think about it. the people who suffered, do you think they would look at you all as Somalians? wake up all, tribalism is nothing it is a tool of shaitan and a tool of the kaafir, divide and conquer.

just out of curiousity sis. Fatima what other agenda could i have? If I am to sign an agreement with a village, that after 5 years if they are not happy with what i do or did that all my assets and investments be kept and i be disposed. Even if what i did was good and the greediness of the people still diposes me, then kaana lillahi! I know you might be thinking that i might qwant to rape the riches of Somalia, but 2 things on that. Rasullah said never form suspicion on your brother and secondly i had my share of corruption done to me and i long to live in a utopia, i figured Somalians longed for that as well, but how you all are saying that i am dreaming, it seems your mouths do more work then your arms to get Somalia revived.

[Yusufaddie]

Also sister Fatimah, i am very hurt on what you stated on your third point. please do me a favour, refer this to learned shiekh and ask how him how did you commit shirki asghar with this statement. If you are not clear with what i am saying please ask, in the mean time seek Allah's forgiveness for innahu Al Ghaffur.

[Yusufaddie]

Sis Fatima i really would like you to expound on that statement because it is really ironic!!!!!!

 

"the statement thirdly, your not Doing this for the Sake of ISLAM nor SOMALIS..you have your Own lil agenda going on, I suggest that you take this "Idea" else where...... You're just using Allah/Islam as an excuse.

 

It says in the Quran ......And ALLAH knows best what they keep hidden in their hearts. 84:24"

Do you see it?