A puppet government in a failed state

[OLOL]

A puppet government is a government that, though notionally of the same culture as the governed people, owes its existence (or other major debt) to being installed, supported or controlled by a more powerful entity, typically a foreign power. Such a government is known as a puppet régime.

 

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Failed state is a controversial term intended to mean a weak state in which the central government has little practical control over much of its territory.

 

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In recent years various political commentators have labelled many countries as failed states, including Afghanistan (under the Taliban), Somalia, Yemen, and Georgia.

 

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http://en.wikipedia.org/

[Camel Mlik]

OLOL brother you wish for this government to fall just because you don't like the leader for what ever reason that i really do not want to say.

 

call him what ever names or wish for the worst but at the end of the day he is still there. what are you going to do next post some more bullshit like you have been doing for the last month.

 

brother olol move on cause you are not helping one bit.

[wind.talker]

Contrary to popular wisdom, the whole of Somalia isn't a failed state. Somaliland - the self-declared republic that seceded away from Somalia - has been living in relative peace and achieved some measure of economic progress. There's a government with all necessary institutions, a currency, a national flag, banks etc. and everyone attends to his/her needs. The same could be said for neighboring Puntland (although it didn't declare independence). In southern Somalia, the regional adminstrations of Shabellaha Hoose and Shabellaha Dhexe have achieved the peaceful co-existence of locals. There are people in leadership positions who lead the semi-autonomous regions in political, economic and social affairs - all aspects of 'government.'

 

These are all examples that all of Somalia isn't a failed state. Of course, there are many parts of Somalia where chaos is supreme.

 

Only a non-Somali would believe that all of Somalia is a failed state.

[OLOL]

Fiefdom

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

Under the system of feudalism, a fiefdom, fief, feud or fee, consisted of heritable lands or revenue-producing property granted by a liege lord in return for a vassal knight's service— usually fealty, military service, or security.

 

Fiefdom usually required the vassal to obey conditions of customary and specified homage and fealty. In theory, a fief would provide revenue to equip and support the vassal knight to serve the liege lord. The fief was granted to the vassal, but remained in the ownership of the liege lord. The lord did not have the right to withdraw the fief (unless the vassal broke his obligation) or to increase the dues for a fief.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiefdom

[Haddad]

Originally posted by wind.talker:

Only a non-Somali would believe that all of Somalia is a failed state.

The inclusion of the term all makes your above statement weak. all coupled with believe implies a strong knowledge of everything pertaining to Somalia's security.

 

Also, there has to be at least one Somali who believes that all of Somalia is a failed state, because there's always an exception.

 

The other thing, believing all of Somalia is a failed state has nothing to do with being a-or-non Somali.

[wind.talker]

^^

 

Hey, Taliban, you sound constipated. Must you always be so serious? It was an innocent jibe at OLOL - I'm sure he has a sense of humor. Let the man defend himself, if need be. How I despise lawyers-for-free on these Forums or elsewhere.

 

Fact remains, certain cities in Somalia have lower crime rates (murder, rape, armed robbery etc.) than cities of the same size around the globe (which, mind you, have recognized governments). Therefore, I do think that only the misinformed would believe that all of Somalia is in a failed state.

 

P.S. How significant is the exception to the rule? Isn't that why its an exception to begin with? You're so literal that its at times mind-boggling buddy.

[Haddad]

Originally posted by wind.talker:

P.S. How significant is the exception to the rule?

Probably +-1%. Nowadays, their numbers could go upto millions, since humanity number in several billions. Let's take an example of China; there are at least 10 millions Chinese (like Somalia's population) who had an amputation (at least a finger or a breast). Also, the US; there are at least 10 millions Americans (like Somalia's population) who suffer from hearing impairment. Just a few of many exceptions.