Extremist Propaganda Justice

[Peace Action]

There is no justice here and forget about mercy and maqaasid al-shariica, it is the rule of the jungle. Alshabaab are digging a deeper hole for themselves everyday, it will be very soon when the hunter becomes the hunted.

[Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar]

Originally posted by Malika:

quote:Originally posted by me:

I do not see what is wrong in this situation other then that you disagree with those that are bringing justice to those that need it the most.

Playing the devil's advocate must have a limit!! This is bloody ridiculous that a child whom is a product of the chaos that is Somalia is today prosecuted in such a harsh manner just BECAUSE he stole what???

 

And WHERE in OUR Sharia Laws does it permit such an act on a minor? :mad:

 

I am actually physically disgusted,and those whom support such action are imbiciles too...

Waxyaabo badan wali maqlin ayaa jirto. Indoctrinating sisters, those sisters who attend their classes in the towns they rule, totally imbued with their ideologies, where they are brainwashed. They are asking them to divorce their "coward" husbands because they do not fight in their "jihaad."

 

You do not also either hear that they call in advance, warning the little clinics (and few hospitals that can be found in the area) of the towns they are going to attack, that they are going to massacre "murtads" and should be ready for the casualties, regardless who is going to die in those towns, innocent or not. Just to make fear into their hearts.

 

These are not my stories. It is by a dhaqtar ka shaqeeyo those deegaano they rule (and ruled) in central Soomaaliya.

[me]

Dear Disgusted and Finger pointing crowds,

 

The only reason these A-Shabab guys are doing what they are doing is because folks like you decided to abandon your houses and left the weakest in our society to fend for themselves.

 

1. You fled, while they stayed.

2. You wavered, while they fought and keep fighting the enemies of our nation.

3. You supported clans over justice, while they protected the weakest in our society.

 

These mad wadaado are positioning them so well that those that point fingers at them are becoming hypocrites.

 

If you disagree with these radicals then come with alternatives and address the following issues.

 

1. Somalia’s sovereignty

2. Somalia’s unity

3. Total and brutal eradication of clan system

4. Justice for all

 

These mad men have a complete program and they are willing to execute their program. Who else has a complete program for Somalia? Excluding Ethiopia’s malevolent program.

 

Bleeding hearts and sob stories will not change the situation, there are real issues at stake here and those mad wadaado are dealing with them without wavering.

 

I am by no means a supporter of those guys, but I see where their strength lies and disagreeing with them on certain issues will only make us all hypocrites.

 

There are general problems we need to face as a society. Let’s deal with these problems and let’s leave the cheap and ineffectual propaganda for what it is.

 

Finally

 

If you care for Somalia and you hate these imbeciles then double, even triple your efforts and compete with them for helping the population. Defend your country more effectively then these imbeciles are doing today.

 

The only way you can safe Somalia from these guys is by dealing with the real questions that our nation faces today. Not by finger pointing and collaborating with the Xabash.

 

MMA,

 

Saaxiib don’t mistake war tactics for ideology. Let’s stop being emotional and look at the situation objectively. Your wadaninimo should tell you that our nation is more important then factional politics.

[Kashafa]

^^ Well-said(with slight reservations), me. A comprehensive, big-picture post that silences the qaylo-dhaan and baroor-dhiiq of our defeated fifth columnists.

 

 

Let every Gaalo-raac, be they Sharif-ite qashin, Yusuf-ite scum or Scholars-4-Dollars read this quote:

 

1. You

fled

, while they

stayed

.

2. You

wavered

, while they

fought

and keep fighting the enemies of our nation.

3. You

supported clans

over justice, while they

protected the weakest

in our society

And they have the nerve to wave self-righteous fingers at their masters and superiors. Caku iyo Munaafiq jaahil'nimo ku raagay! Waryaa, war waxu waa xoolo ileen.

[Meiji]

Dear Me,

 

The only reason the extremist Alshabab is doing what it is doing is because they are parasites who have grown in an environment that was weak, morally degenerated and socially divided. It is no coincidence that the birth place of Alshabab was Mogadishu, a city that witnessed lawlessness and anarchy for 18 years. When an organism becomes weak, and finds itself in a position of slow self-destruction than it is natural that virus and bacteria infect the organism in which than the parasites will feed off and grow untill the organism seizes to exist. This is the story of Mogadishu city and most of Southern Somalia, and this explains why the extremist have been succesfull in those area's and nonexistent in other regions of Somalia.

 

Even if we look at the case at a much lower level than the society, and analyze the occurance of extremism from an individual perspective we can see that those individuals who become suicide bombers and extremists are victims that fell prey to an extremist ideology. If we inquire into the reasons why these individuals fell prey while others have not we can agree that the life environment and character of these individuals is conducive to attract parasites (i.e the extremist ideology) which eventually leads to their end. Hence, why 15-year old children are enlisted to blow themselves up, and hence why older hapless men who have become tired of life and seek a new beginning are attracted to such ideologies and become radical ''new-born muslims''.

 

The fact that we fled our country explains little, because surely many Somalis fled from Northwestern, Northeastern and Central Somalia yet those regions have:

 

Functioning regional administrations that take care of:

 

- Security of the people

- Justice administration

- Education

- Social programs

 

Now, can you explain us why the extremist Alshabab are non-existent in those regions?

 

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Purpose of the topic:

 

What we are doing is not merely fingerpointing but unmasking the entity that is sugar-coated by their supporters and sympathizers as: ''wadani, pure muslims, mujaahideen, last somalis standing'' etc etc.

 

 

The administration of justice is a very important field in every nation, and the fact that the extremists abuse this field and mix it with their Propaganda administration is disturbing to say the least. This amateurish, shortsighted, politically-motivate d way the extremist handle the admninistration of Justice unveils the nature of their rule in Somalia.

 

Do they have a complete program as some claim?

 

The Alshabab entity have never elaborated on the ''complete program'' and have shown us that the administrations they have established so far are worse than the well-functioning and flourishing administrations in Central/Northeastern and Northwestern Somalia. In some Southern regions their admninistration when stripped from its superficial ideology is basically the same as the administrations before it: Middle Shabelle admninistration hasn't changed, Baay/Bakool administration hasn't changed, even the one in Kismaanyo is still the same in which the different factions of the alliance share the revenues from the port/airport and businesses like the previous JVA was doing.

 

The extremists have no ''complete program'' and people should not confuse the meaning of 'complete program'with simple PR-stunts and war retorics.

 

The reality on the ground tells a different story than the PR-stunts and war retorics of the extremists:

 

Their retorics:

 

- We bring Justtice

- We safeguard the weak and innocent

- We fight foreign invaders: Ethiopia and AMISOM

 

 

The reality:

 

- They bring PR justice, in which so far teenagers have been the victims: 13 year old girl in Kismaanyo, 14 year old boy in Mogadishu city.

- They contribute to the mass displacement and massacre of the weak and innocent

- They fight Somali factions while the Ethiopians are stationed in Baay/Bakool/Gedo/Hii raan/Galgaduud borderregions.

 

So far, have we ever heard of Alshabab waging war on the Ethiopians in Doolow/Luuq/Berdale/ Jawiil/Balanbale/Abu dwaaq? No, they are more preoccupied with invading small towns in Central Somalia and other regions.

 

Even if we look at Mogadishu, we can see that the AMISOM are stationed next door Alshabab strongholds along the Industrial Road yet Alshabab is waging war to conquer Kaaran/Shibis/Boondh eere/Cabdulcasiis etc.

 

Their retorics rarely match reality.

[Meiji]

Kashafa,

 

With all respect, you are a headless chicken. You are always preoccupied with screaming and yelling while not presenting any substance and real arguments.

 

It is no surprise why Me, who is not even an ardant supporter of Alshabab, is doing a better job than you in defending the policies and actions of the extremist by presenting real and interesting arguments.

 

Now bro, let men debate and go post maps of how big Alshabab is and latest pictures of suicide bombers.

[me]

Meiji,

 

You presented the argument already all we need to do is linking the dots and seeing the big picture.

 

As you said Al-Shabab and before that the ICU came from Mogadishu. It is the situation in Mogadishu that called for radical change.

 

For 18 years warlords and clannist parasites have been subjecting the people of Mogadishu to killing, raping and looting. They first came in the form of the USC and made all the productive people of Somalia refugees in order to gain hegemony. Then they turned on each other and destroyed the city.

 

Then they split the people of the city in to sub clans, then sub-sub clans, then sub-sub-sub clans while doing the bidding for foreign actors among whom Ethiopia was one of the major evil-doers.

 

The people of the city prayed and hoped for a better day. But things didn’t change; day after day they were humiliated at check-points by warlord militias. The people who had no clan protection jareer and jileec alike were robbed, exhorted, their properties became xalaal and they had to live in sub-human conditions.

 

The situation became Fight or Flee.

 

Those that could leave left, in Red Sea their corpses float, in the Sahara desert their unburied bodies lay.

 

Those young men that could not flee fought back.

 

What we can see from the evolution of these groups is that they are a response to the environment in Somalia.

 

Calling them parasites is erroneous, if we use your medical terminology we can say that they are the body’s immune system fighting back.

 

The reality on the ground tells a different story than the PR-stunts and war retorics of the extremists:

 

Their retorics:

 

- We bring Justtice

- We safeguard the weak and innocent

- We fight foreign invaders: Ethiopia and AMISOM

On issue 1 and 2, well this trial proves that, they are bringing justice. You can disagree with their form of justice, but justice it is nonetheless.

 

On issue 3, they are fighting Amisom and Ethiopia, you can not deny that.

 

My question for you is, if these guys are only interested in PR. Then…

 

• Who else is bringing Justice to Somalia?

• Who else is claiming that they are protecting the innocent?

• Who else is Fighting the invaders of our soil…. AMISOM and Ethiopia?

• Who else is fighting the treasonous TFG that is selling our seas?

[Bokero]

Malika

 

Couldn’t agree with you more… the only thing that is more disgusting than this acts is those who justify it or excuse it….

 

I am truly embarrassed to share a Somali heritage which this people… I am seriously disturbed… what a future awaits that young soul, as a disabled boy in a country that has failed him is some many ways…

 

May Allah protect you …

[Meiji]

Me,

 

The situation in Mogadishu called for radical change and the need for change is an opportunity for pretenders to fill that void.

 

Nobody disagrees that things were terrible in Mogadishu, but the kind of ''change'' that came (in 2006) is one that has brought the Somali nation in deeper problems.

 

 

The change of 1991 and 2006 have many parallels.

 

In 1991, the USC spearheaded a long-awaited change. The oppressive dictatorship along with its abuse of the nation's resources led to the emergence of clannist jabhado and the fact that Somali masses welcomed the collapse of the dictatorial regime.

 

Nobody was preoccupied at that time in asking critical questions like:

 

- How will the country be governed after the dictatorial regime is ousted?

- What is the place and role of the different factions in shaping Somalia's future?

- How can the injustices of the previous regime be corrected?

- How can we give the Somali nation its freedom and dignity back after 21 years of autoritarian rule?

 

All those legitimate questions were ignored and the supporters of the Jabhado prevented criticial discussion of the post-dictatorship period by sily retorics of:

 

- Lets first depose the dictator!

- Lets first restore Somali freedom and dignity!

- Lets first retake the resources the dictatorial regime took from the masses!

 

Many people fell for those political rethorics and we all know how the political pretenders in 1991 squandered a great opportunity.

 

The fragmentation of the USC resembles that of the ICU. Both organizations were united in cause but the deep divisions were clearly visible and would come to the forefront as the struggle progressed. It is also not surprising that the radical wing of ICU ( which became Alshabab-Xisbi Islam) resembles that of the USC (which later became USC-SNA). Even the retorics both use are a bady copy of the past.

 

Here are few parallels:

 

- The radical wing of the ICU claimed to have spearheaded the defeat of the warlords and the overal struggle and as such deserves to rule the country just like the radical wing of the USC claimed to have spearheaded the defeat of the dictator and the overal struggle

- The radical wing of the ICU has been sidelined by the Jabuti process just like the radical wing of the USC had been sidelined by the Jabuti process in 1991.

- The radical wing of the ICU has conquered much of Southern Somalia just like the radical wing of USC conquered much of Southern Somalia while the govt of Ali Mahdi was concentrated in Mogadishu city.

- The radical wing of the ICU declared many people ''murtads/gaalo'' if they disagreed with them and were suspected of aiding the other camp just like the radical wing of USC declared many groups as ''collaborators'' based on clan background (i.e the SSDF lumping together with Barre's regime based on clan).

- The radical wing of the ICU has claimed to have taken most of Mogadishu city and was believed as such just like the radical wing of USC (USC-SNA) claimed to have taken all of Mogadishu city.

- The Aweys vs Sh.Sharif war and the exodus from Mogadishu city is another bad copy of the past.

- The honeymoon between Turki-Aweys and the creation of Xisbi Islam is another bad copy of the honeymoon between Aideed-Jess and the creation of USC-SNA which briefly controlled: Baay/Bakool, Gedo, Jubba regions and Lower Shabelle.

 

I am sure you can see the other parallels.

 

 

Fake Justice is justice nonetheless??

 

On issue 1 and 2, well this trial proves that, they are bringing justice. You can disagree with their form of justice, but justice it is nonetheless.

To return to our 1991-2006 parallel. We can take an example of ´´PR Justice´´ back in 1991-1992 that was performed by the radical wing of the USC and was politically motivated, shortsighted and amateurish just like the Alshabab ´´Justice´.

 

There is this widely known event in which USC-SNA captured 3 young Somali men during the fighting in Kismaanyo.

 

Those 3 dhalinyaro were brought to Mogadishu city and tied to a tree after which they were ´trialed´. Ironically the USC-SNA brought many people to watch the trial and sentence just like Alshabab has done while Qeybdiid was one of the officials who was talking to the crowd (he was a high official of USC-SNA at that time). After some shady ´´trial´´ the 3 dhalinyaro confessed that they were part of Barre´s forces and as such were sentenced to dead penalty. They were executed in front of the Somali crowd the same day.

 

At that time, the supporters of USC-SNA and Qeybdiid´s loyalists would have surely called it ´´Justice´´ and have justified the crime while proclaiming that the mob was pleased and thus everything was fine.

 

 

It was not long ago that Kashafa was boosting about ´´Swift Justice´´ of Alshabab after which I had warned him not to repeat the mistakes of USC in propagating for a ´´Swift Justice´´. It is worhtwhile to read the posts concerning the issue of Justice in that thread.

 

We should be carefull when it comes to delicate state affaires.

 

 

PS: Qeybdiid was jailed briefly for that crime in Sweden around 2004-2006 after Somali people showed that video-tape to Swedish authorities.

[Meiji]

The extremist Alshabab is repeating the mistakes of those before it: Fake Justice with dire consequences for the victims.

 

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The Plight of a Double Amputee

 

By Abdirahman Aynte

Washington, DC

Friday, June 26, 2009

 

When a militia loyal to al-Shabaab recently amputated the wrists and the feet of four young men in Mogadishu, no one felt the implications better than Abdi, a double amputee who led a difficult life without his right hand and left foot for nearly a decade. The 31-year-old, Mogadishu resident, who asked us not to use his full name because he feared repercussions, said the recent amputations reminded him of a horrible chapter in his life.

 

"It's a very bad and a very sad feeling," he said in an exclusive interview with the VOA Somali Service. "If you lose your hand and foot judiciously, it’s understandable. But if you lose them injudiciously...that haunts me to date."

 

 

In a graphic account of his story, Abdi said that a man he worked for as a driver accused him of looting, stealing and injuring another man, an allegation he adamantly denies. A clan court in northern Mogadishu then condemned him to double amputation, “without sufficient evidence, due process or nothing,” he said.

 

It was a hot September day in 1999, said Abdi, when he was summoned to an open field, chained in the hands and the legs. A few hours into a “hasty hearing,” Abdi said four men held him to the ground while a masked man cut off his right hand and left leg with a machete.

 

Asked if he was anesthetized to relief the pain, Abdi lamented: “No, not at all. They cut my beloved hand and feet forcefully, and in an excruciating pain.”

 

With no medical attention on hand, Abdi said he almost bled to death before being rushed to a nearby hospital. He was discharged after only one day of treatment. The untreated injuries he sustained pain him to date, he said.

 

When Abdi learned about this week’s amputations in Mogadishu, he said he realized that the four young men will “enter a dark chapter of their young life, undeservedly.”

 

The clan court that sentenced Abdi and potentially dozens of others to amputations no longer exists, a fact not lost to Abdi.

 

“It pains me so much that I lost my hand and my foot to selective justice. It saddens me immeasurably.”

 

Muslim scholars say al-Shabaab’s swift application of the harshest codes in Sharia law is categorically un-Islamic. Such precipitous sentencing ignores a crucial jurisprudence that stipulates that every possible excuse must be exhausted before one is condemned to amputation, said Sharif Abdirahman, the imam of Darul-Hijra Islamic Center in Minneapolis.

 

The high evidentiary bar set for such harsh sentences, said the imam, renders it almost impossible to implement them.

 

“The harsh penal codes are essentially designed as a preventative measure,” he added, “that’s why it was historically implemented only in exceptionally rare circumstances.”

 

In addition, the imam said the implementing party must be the legal authority of the land, and must control the jurisdiction permanently---none of which applies to al-Shabaab.

 

Meanwhile, Abdi, who like the recently amputated young men was never afforded an attorney, says life without his hand and foot has been unusually onerous. Asked what advice he would give al-Shabaab, he said people must be taught the Islamic faith so that they know what they are signing up for, before their body parts are cut off.

 

“Justice must not be applied expeditiously. People have the right to know the rules of the game,” he said, grudgingly.

 

Source: VOA, June 26, 2006

[me]

Meiji,

 

There is one major flaw with your argument. By comparing the USC to the Islamic Movement of Somalia you disqualified your whole case. Avid SOLers remember Dukey the clown using your argument in 2006.

 

The USC was funded and trained by foreign actors notably Ethiopia and Italy.

 

You can not compare one entity that is fighting to get rid of foreign meddling in Somali affairs with the USC that was nurtured by foreign parties.

 

The USC also had no ideology other than murdering and looting the property of people from certain clans. Whereas the wadaado do have an ‘ideology’, one that appeals to Somalis in every region. If I am wrong here feel free to correct me.

 

The USC crime of 1991 had and still has major influence in the war. Without that crime things may have turned out differently.

 

A question we need to ask ourselves is how can we move away on from that period?

 

Can we as a nation go forward while murderers like Qaybdiid who took part in those murders in 1991 are in the TFG?

 

The only way to redeem the crimes of the past is to get rid of the remnants of the warlord era.

 

Also initial political responsibility needs to be placed in the hands of the only clan neutral group in Somalia today, the wadaado who fight against any foreign interference, the same wadaado who have proven themselves to be loyal to the nation and the rule of law.

 

What the USC failed in 1991 should be set right today.

 

It’s a bitter pill, but it is the only way out now.

 

Otherwise the Somali people will have to go through a minimum of another 10 years of war and all the suffering that entails.

 

Ask yourself Meiji how you can overlook the TFG and the past crimes that still need to be addressed, crimes that can destroy the foundations of the Somali nation, while you are concerned with criminals who got their deserved justice.

 

Also you are very quiet about Ethiopia’s bullying of Somalis and AMISOMS indiscriminate shelling of civilians in Mogadishu.

 

Are you turning a deliberate blind eye to that, while highlighting the issue of criminals who got their justice?

 

Let’s deal with the major issues and not get distracted by insignificant details.

 

The major issues are:

 

1. The sovereignty and independence our nation.

2. The unity of our country.

3. Total and brutal eradication of clan system.

4. Justice for all and the return of the rule of law.

[Meiji]

Me,

 

You have missed the point of the whole comparison.

 

Both USC and ICU are products of their environment. USC was created like the other jabhado as a reaction to the oppressive dictatorial regime that manipulated clan relations to prolong its own rule and corruption. The clan jabhado were a reaction to the mismanagment of the country by the dictatorial regime.

 

ICU was created as a reaction to the anarchy and warlord regimes that manipulated clan relations to prolong the anarchy and their self-enrichment programmes.

 

Ofcourse, in the creation of both the clan jabhado and the religious factions (ICU-Alshabab-Xisbi Islam), foreign powers were involved. We should not overlook the fact that the key leaders of Alshabab have been trained in Afganistan (a fact even acknowledged by Alshabab leaders) and that the ICU had foreign actors financing it. Nor should we overlook the fact that Xisbi Islam has received weapons, training and logistical support from Eritrea. I fail to understand how you can overlook the foreign links of the religious factions yet argue that USC was asisted by Italy and Ethiopia.

 

 

Even if we look at the ideology of USC in 1991 and ICU in 2006 we can see that the whole ideology was based on a dismissal of the status quo and the propagation for a new era without elaborating on their programme for the new era and how past injustices would be corrected.

The same attidute is now evident in the retorics of the new religious factions (Alshabab-XIsbi Islam) in ignoring serious discussion on how the new era which they struggle for would look like and how previous injustices could be corrected.

 

The USC also had no ideology other than murdering and looting the property of people from certain clans

You are either unaware of the circumstances that led to the creation of the clan jabhado and the leaders behind particularly USC or you are purposefully distorting history.

 

It is like saying in about 5-10 years when the religious pretenders fail: '' ICU (all its factions) had no ideology other than cutting hands and declaring everybody Kaafir''.

 

 

To make things clear, the main point of the comparison was to show that: ''factions should not be trusted upon their word and retorics and that we have to ask critical questions, even if the status quo is unbearable''

 

The other aspect of the comparison was the parallels between the radical wing of USC, namely the USC-SNA (alliance between Jess and Aideed) and the radical wing of the ICU (namely Xisbi Islam-Alshabab).

 

We all remember how USC-SNA was propagating that they were fighting against foreign powers (UNISOM) and for the independence and unity of Somalia, which many people now dismiss as ''a war against foreigners not for the nation but for self-interest''.

 

On the TFG

 

We can all agree on the fact that the TFG is a foreign-created regime in which foreign powers have a major stake in it, control over it and which for its own survival depends on the resources and power of foreign actors.

 

Secondly, we can all agree on the fact that half if not the whole TFG is composed of warlords, political pretenders and ignorant old men who have not what it takes to withstand the demands of the foreign powers and their agenda for Somalia.

 

Lastly, we can all agree on the fact that the clan quota system is an unnatural and artificial mechanism for maintaining the clan divisions in Somalia and that such a basis for government is not in the best interest of Somalia.

 

The above key facts are all known about the TFG and it makes it easy for people to denounce the entity as a faction that is not in the interest of the nation.

 

The argument of the lesser evil

 

The problem with Alshabab and Xisbi Islam supporters is that they compare themselves to such an undesired entity as the TFG which only makes it clear to all Somalis that the religious factions have nothing else to sell than been the lesser evil.

 

Every time the actions and policies of the extremists, which unveil what is coming for the nation if they prevail, are discussed the supporters of those factions start to point finger to the TFG, Ethiopia, AMISOM etc in order to strengthen their argument of:

 

''We are the lesser evil, so support us''.

 

It is time for Alshabab/Xisbi Islam supporters to propagate for their ideology and defend their policies and actions on their own merit instead of comparing themselves with the TFG, that is if they have an ideology and complete program as their supporters claim.

 

Conclusion:

 

Factions and their ideologies should be evaluated on their own merits and we should not find ourselves in a situation of comparing two evils to each other and searching for the lesser evil. We should denounce all evil and invest our time and effort in formulating an alternative programme for Somalia instead of wasting it in defending or justifying the actions of both camps.

[Meiji]

As I have shown earlier, the extremist group of Alshabab forced fake confessions out of the teenagers in order to continue with their Propaganda Justice.

 

Today, 4 teens are maimed for life for alleged crimes they never committed. They lost their limps so that the extremists could display one of their Propaganda shows.

 

The four victims of yesterday are here:

 

 

Yesterday

 

 

 

 

Today:

 

 

 

Yesterday

 

 

 

Forced to make false confessions by the criminals behind him who are hiding their face.

 

 

Today:

 

 

Speaking the truth today:

 

Ismaaciil Khaliif Cabdulle ayaa sidoo kale ka mid ah dhalinyaradaan wuxuuna sheegay in uu ahaa arday, waxaana la igu soo eedeeyay ayuu yiri in uu ka tirsan yahay ciidamda dowladda .

Cali Maxamuud Cali oo dhalinyaradaan ka mid ah ayaa isna sheegay in uu ahaa arday caafimaadka barta, wuxuuna sheegay in uusan ilaa iyo haatan ogeyn wax loo cuskaday xukunkii gacan iyo lug goynta ahaa ee lagu riday. C/qaadir Cabdi Duluxow oo ah wiilka afaraad ayaa sheegay in uu ahaa Arday wax barta wuxuuna sheegay in lagu soo eedeeyay in uu jaasuus u yahay Dowladda Soomaaliya.

Crimes have been committed, those behind in Somalia should be held responsible.

 

Those that justified it should apologize for ever justifying the acts of lunatics.

[Meiji]

Dowladda Soomaaliya oo soo bandhigtay afar Wiil oo ay Xarakada Al-shabaab min lug iyo gacan ka goysay (DAAWO SAWIRRADA)

 

Isniin, September 14, 2009(HOL): Dowladda Soomaaliya ayaa maanta waxay soo bandhigtay afar wiil oo ay Xarakada Al-Shabaab min gacan midig iyo lug bidix ka goysay, waxayna sheegtay in dhalinyaradaas xukun sharci darro ah lagu riday, laguna fuliyay.

 

Wasiirka Garsoorka iyo Cadaaladda Xukuumadda Soomaaliya Shiikh C/raxmaan Maxamed Faarax Jinaqow oo shir jaraa’id ku qabtay magaalada Muqdisho ayaa shaaca ka qaaday in dhalinyaradaas lagu tacaddiyay, isla markaana xubno ka mid ah jirkooda la jar jaray iyadoo loo awood sheeganayo.

 

“Haddii Xukun ceynkaas oo kale ah la fulinayo waxaa loo baahan yahay in caddeym cad lagu hayo dadka xukunka lagu ridayo ama ay iyagu qirtaan iyagoo xor ah oo aan la cabsi gelineynin”ayuu yiri Shiikh C/raxmaan Jinawo oo sheegay in dhalinyaradaas ay yihiin kuwo lagu xadgudbay oo la naafeeyay.

 

Dhalinyaradaan waxaa ka mid ah :Jeylaani Maxamed Xaaji C/qaadir oo sheegay in uu ahaa farsamayaqaan lix caruur ah leh, isla markaana lagu eedeeyay in uu dowladda Soomaaliya la shaqeeyo.

 

Ismaaciil Khaliif Cabdulle ayaa sidoo kale ka mid ah dhalinyaradaan wuxuuna sheegay in uu ahaa arday, waxaana la igu soo eedeeyay ayuu yiri in uu ka tirsan yahay ciidamda dowladda .

 

Cali Maxamuud Cali oo dhalinyaradaan ka mid ah ayaa isna sheegay in uu ahaa arday caafimaadka barta, wuxuuna sheegay in uusan ilaa iyo haatan ogeyn wax loo cuskaday xukunkii gacan iyo lug goynta ahaa ee lagu riday. C/qaadir Cabdi Duluxow oo ah wiilka afaraad ayaa sheegay in uu ahaa Arday wax barta wuxuuna sheegay in lagu soo eedeeyay in uu jaasuus u yahay Dowladda Soomaaliya.

 

Dhalinyaradan ayaa waxay sheegeen in markii lugaha iyo gacmaha laga gooyay kaddib ay hayeen Xarakada Shabaabul Mujaahidiin, isla markaana ay daryeel la’aan ku noolaayeen intii ay ku jireen gacanta Al-Shabaab.

 

Wasiirka bani’aadannimada Dowladda Soomaaliya Maxamuud Cabdi Garweyne ayaa ugu baaqay beesha caalamka in ay gurmad u soo dirto dhalinyaradan lugaha iyo gacmaha laga jaray, kuwaasi oo uu sheegay in lixaadkooda la kala dhantaalay.

 

Dhalinyaradan ayaa waxaa lug iyo gacan is-dhaaf ah looga gooyay duleedka Suuqa Xoolaha, waxaana markii gacanta laga goynayay lagu soo eedeeyay falal burcadnimo hubeysan ah.

[Sherban Shabeel]

God help those kids.

 

Shabaab is trying to impose divine law in hell. Doesn't make much sense, does it? First, Somalia needs to enter an age of peace and reconstruction. THEN you can start enforcing the law.

 

IN TIMES OF WAR THERE IS NO LAW!!!

 

The only way forward is for Shabaab to renounce its violent thirst for absolute power, call off this ****** war and join the government.