Still Galgala?..I thought mighty PL vanquished those few boys

[General Duke]

Originally posted by Gallad:

. You are just digging a whole for your self son.

Why dont you go get your rights from those who occupy Dhusa Mareb & Galinsoor, Puntland is far too powerful for you lad.

[NASSIR]

Thankful, you sound ever more funny, disoriented and contradictory. Websites seem to be your mythical hobgoblin. Garowe Online was your target for many months, accusing it of propogating false news and unfairly promoting Farole's political ambitions. It turned out to be a collusion course between you and the rest of die-hard "Puntlanders" that you were singled out and even your "PL" identity questioned. Other notable contributors dismissed your relentless attacks of GaroweOnline, Farole, as a child obsessed with its little toy.

Now it seems the Galgala saga is an opportunity to save face though you are still, and unnoticeably, wallowing in mud.

 

Adeer, as for your repeated citation of Ilka-jir's stance, my take is that he is not a representive of the a whole community's opinion and position. Hunguri agrees with me on this since the reputed general holds an office that should push for the unfair policies of Farole with regards to Galgala and environs. He would have to tender his resignation had he taken a contrary position. Quite clear saxib!

 

Fyi, Dhahar is the sister online publication of Somali Public Radio. Its staff have a first hand knowledge of what is going on in the native-land of Makhiris. For instance, SPR was the first to report yesterday the armed clash near Galgala before the likes of Duke dismissed it as a false news while haphazardly rushing to open a new thread with a self-defeating title (www). That only reinforced the stigma of his zealotry on this mere Somali forum while rendering a laughing stock of his intentions of defamation. When our brother Xudeedi verified from the most biased clan-sites like AllPuntland (a site known for its geographic ignorance of the region) and then asked his friend if he would ever believe it this time, Duke again, ever deperate in his self-defeating tactics called for Sakhar to post the same news and cited him as though he and Sakhar were of the same drilling unit.

It's like PLers are acting in collectivity terms.

[General Duke]

Originally posted by Nassir:

Thankful,

 

When our brother Xudeedi verified from the most biased clan-sites like AllPuntland (

a site known for its geographic ignorance of the region) and then asked his friend if he would ever believe it this time, Duke again, ever deperate in his self-defeating tactics called for Sakhar to post the same news and cited him as though he and Sakhar were of the same drilling unit.

 

Allpuntland source

 

Nonesen Nassir, and provable nonsense at that. This will prove that your whole stance is based on emotional ********* devoid of facts.. Sakhar posted that article on the above thread at

August 25, 2010 12:01 PM

 

Xudeedi in his rash mad dash to prove something posted the same article in SOL at

 

August 25, 2010 04:53 PM. Look at the time difference, its more than four hours.. Nassir I am so disappointed in you.

 

Are you still a Puntlander this afternoon, or have you changed again

[Thankful]

Originally posted by Nassir:

Duke, Xudeedi and Thankful,

I think it's time to drop the

blame game and the familiar politicking.

It's time to promote peace, unity and reconcliation. Without stirring further incitement or painting the whole Galgala issue with one broad brush, We can simply turn to peaceful channels.

 

Look at the bigger picture, that is the overall peace within PL's borders and the political and economic leverage it has maintained over SL and other entities.

Nassir,

 

If this is still your stance than I completely agree with you. I understand that you may feel that people from your area are being marginalized and it is definitely something the state must take into account. Like I have said, I think the state is improving and Ilka-Jiir’s near win of the presidency is proof, but nonetheless I agree it may be moving too slow in reforming. Ilka-Jiir is by far the most respected politician from your region and was chosen as the only candidate for president (which says something). Puntland’s ability to take over Atam’s base is a direct result of Ilka-Jiir.

 

Please do not fabricate the news, because when you say that “SPR was the first to report yesterday the armed clash near Galgala”. The truth is that what “brother” Xudeedi said was that Atam’s men actually took over Gagala and held it, until Puntland forces took it back; this is completely different then what you are saying now. All Puntland said there was a clash, and I think that is reasonable to assume, but SPR puts its own spin and says that Puntland forces were defeated for a time being and the place was captured by Atam’s men.

 

But like I said, as long as you want to see Puntland reformed and succeed, we hold a common goal.

 

P.S I try and always been neutral and fair when I discuss something. Even if I may not hold the opinion that everyone else does. Atam's Paltalk interview sealed the deal for me!

[Thankful]

Originally posted by Nassir:

 

Fyi,

Dhahar

is the sister online publication of Somali Public Radio. Its staff have a first hand knowledge of what is going on in the native-land of Makhiris. For instance, SPR was the first to report yesterday the armed clash near Galgala before the likes of Duke dismissed it as a false news while haphazardly rushing to open a new thread with a self-defeating title (www).

SPR

 

Nassir,

 

This is what brother Xudeedi posted from SPR, now I want your honest opinion, do you believe it?

 

Wednesday, August 25 2010

 

Kadib markii ay ciidamada PIS tu lagala wareegay magaalada Galgala ayaa waxaa kasoo baxay magaalada Boosaaso ciidama badan oo uu wato Gen. Ilka Jiir ayaa waxay gaareen Galgala iyagoo aan khadka telefoonka la beegsaney ayuu wuxuu noo sheegay Genenku in ay magaalada sii galayaan, haseyeeshee ay xalay dagaalo ku qabsadeen maqribkii shalay kooxda Sh. Atam.

[Libaax-Sankataabte]

Culimo Allooy, sheekada ha la dejiyo oo cadawtinomo aan meesha oolin yaan la buubuunin. Khilaafkaani waa iska dhammaan doonaa Insha Allah, wax sidaa u sii weynna meesha maba yaallaan.

 

Like I said, siyaasadda hala ciyaaro, laakiin qabaa'illada walaalaha ah yaan la aflagaadeyn. Dooddu ha socoto iyadoon la caytamin.

[NGONGE]

Thankful,

 

I'm still not convinced by your argument, saaxib. It makes it sound as if these guys were lying in wait (Atam like) for such an opportunity so that they can start a clan war. As for the false news, hasn't that always been a fact of somali life? Surely it is not Nassir and Xudaydii who quote false/fake sites, everyone from SL all the way to ONLF supporters do it when it matches their feelings.

 

This brings us back to the reasons behind this anger. If you're sincere in your 'neutral' stance you would stop being defensive and hear (address) out their grievences.

 

Don't follow Duke's principle that regards looking at both sides of an argument as the height of treason. Wax fahan.

[Thankful]

Ngonge, you are a secessionist! It is in your interest to see this matter prolong and grow.

 

You do not see Puntland in a positive light or a single one of it leaders.

 

What you are doing is trying to back up the Atam supporters so they don't realize how foolish they are for supporting him.

 

Focus on the enclave that you claim is an independent country.

[NGONGE]

^^ You're as paranoid as a chicken with a bag tied to its legs.

 

Hadal cad baan kuu qoray, secessionist or yehoodi does not matter here. Ma khalad baan sheegay?

 

As for PL, you are wrong. I admired Abdullahi Yusuf because of what other considered to be his shortcomings. I had no opinion on Cade but I strongly despise Faroole.

 

I am not one dimensional, saaxib. I believe I am cultured enough to respect and admire people even if there is a history of conflict between us. Alas, I fear you are so entrenched in your defence of PL that simple common sense could never break through your stubborn defences.

 

P.S.

Even if it is as you say, I blame you for giving me such an opportunity. Wax fahan.

[Jacaylbaro]

You're as paranoid as a chicken with a bag tied to its legs.

In Somali: Bac Baa Ku Xidhan ,,,,

[Mr. Somalia]

Originally posted by NGONGE:

 

... but I strongly despise Faroole.

^

 

Is it just me or is Ngonge becoming overly emotive these days?

 

Please tell us again why you 'despise' him.

 

P.S--Adiga hadaan ku ahaanlahaa, seedigey waan ka xishoon lahaa.

[Thankful]

I admire one thing about you secessionists and it's the diversity in which you display the pride you have for you enclave. JB has the Somalia flag and his flag, (even though he doesn't think Somalia exists). You have someone with pics of Siad Era military equiptment. Then there is you Ngonge, who has a deep seated hatred for Puntland and especially Abdullahi Yusuf, but now you are saying you actually liked him.

 

I'll tell you what; I will consider you a part of the Gagala issue if you tell me what country you consider yourself from.

[NGONGE]

Oh Thankful, you truly disappoint me, saaxib. You truly do. I expected you to have a tad more sense than this but since you believe an online argument has the power to bring PL down, I think I shall leave you alone to your world of paranoia.

 

Mr Somalia,

This type of talk is only said to one you really know. Otherwise you may commit the cardinal sin of asking your in-law to feel shame infront of his other in-laws. Wax fahan.

[Rain]

Wax fahan. my friend.

 

Wareer Badnaaa!!!

[Mr. Somalia]

Originally posted by NGONGE:

 

Mr Somalia,

This type of talk is only said to one you really know. Otherwise you may commit the cardinal sin of asking your in-law to feel shame infront of his other in-laws. Wax fahan.

Ngonge, what's there to fahan? Isn't Faroole an in-law of yours? All I asked was...why do you 'despise' your in-law? Bal taas na fahansii oo noo sheeg odeyga seedigaa-ah muxuu kuu dhimay?