Khiyaano Qaran? : A Letter from Egal to Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin

[Dhubad.]

^Geel_Jire12 Afkaaga caano garoor aha lagu qabay. Thanks for clarifying this mate, that is the link I was talking about !

 

Peace

[Som@li]

Most Somalis are no better situation than Palastinians! go and talk the Somalis in ****** region, they feel and oppressed the same way, the diff is Palastinians are lucky to be under spot light!

 

p.s. Dashid when did you develop selective reading syndrome?

 

That last line was very dangerous,Dont know now if this article is true or not,but it was written by someone fcuked up in the head!

 

Anywa,History will not forgive and record all the poor attempts of the secessionists who tried to dismember the Somali Republic!

[me]

I am not laughing at the idea of saving Somalia or whether we can do that or not.

 

I am just smiling about the conviction thats needed to do something like that. How much are some people willing to sacrifice for the Somalia we all dream about.

 

We need Duke taking out AY

Jacaylbaro taking out Riyaale

Northerner taking out Siilaanyo

Horn taking out Hiiraale.

 

So how can we convince these guys?

[Ibtisam]

Dashid: ^^How contradictory, You say you have no idea who wrote it and in the same breath cast it as poor attempt of the secessionists who tired to dismember somalia lool Allaho noo saal. My other comment was to the fella with similar names as you, for a while I thought you guys were the same.

 

Geel jire I expect better than that from you to draw a comparison, the history for Palestine is a lot longer than the last 50years. The only similarities I can see is the clan lines (which is the case with all Arabs). Assassinating of leaders were only the product, it is not the cause nor can it be blamed for their current situation. Somalis invited foreigners to their land, after they have been in constant war and turmoil for years.

[Liibaan]

If Egal wrote this controversial letter, its a reflection of the sad situation of Somali people, wax kasta waa lga filaa madaxda somaalida ee maanta nool, illaahow madaxda noo

hanuuni

 

 

 

Geeljire has point

 

The Somali tragedy and the Palestinian tragedy are very similar in many aspects

 

Just like Mogadishu is at the heart of the Somali crisis, Palestine is at the heart of the Arab world’s crisis

 

 

The Palestinian people just like the Arab and Somali people are deeply divided along clan lines,

 

Soomaalidu carabta ayeey ka dhaxashay qabyaalada, lakiin hadeer somalida ayaa looma leenayaa inay ka badsatu, xaalku laga baray ee laga badi

 

The sad thing is under the brutal and merciless Israeli occupation, Palestinians are fighting between themselves in a civil war,

 

Unfortunately while Somalia is facing Ethiopian aggression, Somali people are very divide along clan-factions like hiiraanland, Somaliland, Puntland, Gedoland,

 

Lets us be fair to Palestinians, they are not alone, they are similar to Lebanese, Afghanis, Somalis and Iraqis

 

 

True, some Somali regions are relatively more stable like Puntland, Somaliland, Hiiraanland while places like Mogadishu are in crisis, likewise some Arab countries are more affluent like Gulf states, while places like Palestine and Iraq are in constant wars

 

The west used their magic to destroy the muslim khilafah of Ottoman,

 

The magic is DIVIDE AND RULE

 

The west particularly Britain used the Arabs to destroy the muslim khilaafah, just like America used shia’ah/kurds to destroy Iraq, Israel used Palestinian factions to destroy Palestine unity, Israel used Lebanese factions to destroy the booming Lebanon of 1970s, Ethiopia used Somali clan factions (ssdf,snm, usc) to destroy Somali republic, Ethiopia again used TFG to destroy ICU

 

 

Arabs invited Britain (the country that established Israel later) to Palestine and Arab world to help them in their fight against Ottoman Khilaafah, Just like how Kuwaites, invited Americans to Kuwaiti, Saudis invited Americans to Saudi Arabia, Afghanis invited Americans in Afghanistan, Iraqis invited Americans in Iraq, Somalis invited Ethiopia in Somalia

 

Britain promised to the Arabs, that if Arabs revolt against the Muslim khilaafah of Ottoman, that Britain will help Arabs under the leadership of Emir Faisal to build a super Arab state that includes Palestine

 

 

 

Emir Faisal's party at Versailles, during the Paris Peace Conference of 1919. At the center, from left to right:Rustum Haidar, Nuri as-Said, Prince Feisal, Captain Pisani (behind Feisal), T.E. Lawrence, Feisal's slave (name unknown), Captain Tahsin Qadri

 

 

Arab Uprising (1916-1920)

When Turkey went to war in October 1914 against the allied powers and following their repression of an uprising in Damascus that same year, an exchange of letters between the British Government and the Governor of Mecca, Sherif Hussein, descendent of the Prophet, took place between October 1914 and March 1916. The promise made by Great Britain was the creation of a great Arab Kingdom, a confederation of three independent states to be created (Hejaz, Syria and Iraq), if the people of the region revolted against Istanbul.

The revolt began on June 5, 1916 with the proclamation of the independent state of Hejaz (1) and Hussein its King on November 2nd. Hussein's sons, Faysal and Abdallah (2) led Arab armies north. Faysal entered Damascus on October 3, 1918, and thus put an end to Turkish presence in the Arab countries of the Middle East. A Syrian National Council was convened in June 1919 and proclaimed him King of Syria in March 1920. In the meantime Great Britain, France and Russia had concluded secret agreements on May 16, 1916 (which were revealed and denounced by the Bolshevik powers in 1917) known later as the Sykes-Picot agreements laying down a partition of the region to be placed under separate European powers. The British government topped it all with its public promise on November 2nd, 1917 to create a Jewish homeland with the Balfour Declaration.

In March 1919, The San Remo conference confirmed the Sykes-Picot agreements assigning to France and Britain a mandate over the Middle East. On July 24, 1920 Faysal was forced out of Damascus by the French army led by General Gourand, who that same year proclaimed the independence of the Lebanon.

Faysal after seeking refuge in Baghdad, was later named king of Iraq under British mandate on August 23, 1921. He is buried in Jerusalem on Temple Mount.

The Arab revolt left its marks throughout the Arab World. One of these, albeit symbolic, is visible everywhere : the colours of its flag black, green, white and red. The flags of Syria, Jordan, Iraq, Kuwait and Palestine all use the colours in different arrays, with the Palestinian one resembling the original the most.

 

 

 

The Arab leader Amir Faisal wrote this latter before signing an agreement with Britain

“The two main branches of the Semitic family, Arabs and Jews, understand one another, and I hope that as a result of interchange of ideas at the Peace Conference, which will be guided by ideals of self-determination and nationality, each nation will make definite progress towards the realization of its aspirations. Arabs are not jealous of Zionist Jews, and intend to give them fair play and the Zionist Jews have assured the Nationalist Arabs of their intention to see that they too have fair play in their respective areas. Turkish intrigue in Palestine has raised jealousy between the Jewish colonists and the local peasants, but the mutual understanding of the aims of Arabs and Jews will at once clear away the last trace of this former bitterness, which, indeed, had already practically disappeared before the war by the work of the Arab Secret Revolutionary Committee, which in Syria and elsewhere laid the foundation of the Arab military successes of the past two years.”

 

Amir Faisal also wrote :

"We Arabs, especially the educated among us, look with the deepest sympathy on the Zionist movement. Our delegation here in Paris is fully acquainted with the proposals submitted yesterday to the Zionist organization to the Peace Conference, and we regard them as moderate and proper."

 

 

 

In an intelligence memo written in January 1916 Lawrence described the Arab Revolt of 1916 as:

beneficial to us, because it marches with our immediate aims, the break up of the Islamic 'bloc' and the defeat and disruption of the Ottoman Empire, and because the states [sharif Hussein] would set up to succeed the Turks would be … harmless to ourselves … The Arabs are even less stable than the Turks. If properly handled they would remain in a state of political mosaic, a tissue of small jealous principalities incapable of cohesion (emphasis in original)

 

 

The false promise

The message assured Hussein that The Entente Powers are determined that the Arab race shall be given full opportunity of once again forming a nation in the world. This can only be achieved by the Arabs themselves uniting, and Great Britain and her Allies will pursue a policy with this ultimate unity in view

 

 

Read more

 

McMahon-Hussein Correspondence

The Arab Revolt

 

 

Belfour Declaration of 1917

 

 

Faisal-Weixmann Agreement

 

 

[ August 11, 2007, 12:53 PM: Message edited by: 'Chief ]

[rudy-Diiriye]

somali ppl never invited the ethopians...plz stop the lies.. tfg were the puppets that were used by ethios to invade somali.

 

that will never be forgotten by any true red blooded somali.

[Jacaylbaro]

Horaa loo yidhi hadaad been sheegayso mid run u eg sheeg ,,,,,,,,

 

Now that letter was well known of its falsehood and even the author didn't use the proper words to convince the normal reader let alone the intellectuals,

 

 

I laugh at it wheneva i see Walaahi

[Sayid]

This alleged fax was said that a guy in Europe wrote it in an article published by ION (Indian Ocean Newspaper). IT Most likely is false for several points that has been discussed here and else where before.

[KEYNAN22]

Shalom,

I have the honour to remain,

Your Obedient Servant

 

Mohamed Ibrahim Egal

President

Republic of Somaliland