Abtigiis Posted May 28, 2008 Only few days back, Obama's path-breaking 'let us talk to all' electioneering rhetoric was the pillar of the 'pacifists' argument for dialogue with the TFG (by extension Ethiopia). Not short of sources to fall back, I know they will mount their defences with yet another quotations and references from contemporaries or from history. Anyway, the Obama card is out for now! Read below. LAS VEGAS (Reuters) - U.S. presidential candidate Barack Obama is distancing himself from expectations he would meet Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and taking a more cautious stand on talking to other U.S. adversaries. With criticism from Republicans turning harsher as Obama moves closer to winning the Democratic nomination battle against rival Hillary Clinton, the Illinois senator has shifted -- but not abandoned -- his position. Sen. John McCain, the Republicans' presumptive nominee for the November election, has expressed outrage that Obama would talk to Ahmadinejad, whose country does not recognize Israel and who has branded the Jewish state a "stinking corpse." "There's definitely been an adjustment in what was initially a pretty categorical position," said Ross Baker, a political scientist a Rutgers University. "As (Obama) has gone around the country campaigning, he has realized he's had to fine-tune his position." In a CNN presidential candidates debate in July 2007, Obama was asked if he would be willing "without precondition" to meet with the leaders of Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea during the first year of his administration. "I would," Obama said. "And the reason is this, that the notion that somehow not talking to countries is punishment to them -- which has been the guiding diplomatic principle of this administration -- is ridiculous." CAREFUL PREPARATIONS That put him at odds not only with Republicans but with Clinton, who said she would pursue more engagement with foes like Iran but not promise a top-level meeting immediately. Obama later said that though he would not set preconditions on meetings, there would be careful preparations. He calls President George W. Bush's approach "cowboy diplomacy" and links McCain to the president's foreign policy stance. But as Republicans have painted him as someone who would be willing to "cozy up" to foes like Ahmadinejad, Cuban leader Raul Castro and Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, Obama and his advisers have emphasized preparation would precede any meeting with leaders of adversarial countries. Obama said on Monday he would not guarantee a meeting with Ahmadinejad, since Iran is holding a presidential election in 2009. "There's no reason why we would necessarily meet with Ahmadinejad before we know that he was actually in power. He's not the most powerful person in Iran," Obama told reporters. Under Iran's system of clerical rule, the Islamic Republic's religious establishment has final say in all state matters. The Bush administration's stance on Iran was there would be no meetings unless Tehran agreed to suspend its nuclear enrichment program, Obama said. "Since presumably that is a major topic of conversation, what that really means is we're not going to talk to Iran, and that's the policy that they've initiated," he said. Preparations, by contrast, mean making sure that meetings begin "with low-level diplomatic engagement and that there's a clear agenda so that any meetings would be constructive." He also stressed a meeting doesn't guarantee concessions. In a speech on Latin America last week, Obama said he would be willing to talk to Castro's communist government but "at a time and place of my choosing" and "only when we have an opportunity to advance the interests of the United States." The McCain campaign accuses Obama of backtracking and says that shows he lacks judgment on foreign policy matters. Baker of Rutgers University said Obama's shift makes sense politically. A meeting with Ahmadinejad would be unacceptable to Jewish voters whom Obama wants to court. Promising unconditionally talks with Raul Castro might be unpalatable to Cuban-American voters, he said. "There are mid-course corrections in every campaign," Baker said. "It's better for him to make that course correction now than later in the campaign." Source:http://www.kilil5.com/news/16878_obama-qualifies-position-on-talk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abtigiis Posted May 28, 2008 The Asmara group will fire the Shariif soon. The TFG will offer no substantial concessions to his team as they could bring in not much capital: They can't stop the fight. And his relevancy will evaporate soon. But, no one will remember him as a bad man. He was good-hearted, albeit a populist. He has done his best under the circumstances. Evidently, his best was not enough to make him a saviour of the nation. I believe he will rejoin his collegues in the not-so-distant future. It was with their muscle,that his words had might. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fabregas Posted May 28, 2008 ^^Word is that the Asmara group are reconciling and have set up a committe to investigate and bridge the differences between the groups! So where do you get the info that Sheikh will be fired soon? If they fire him for simply entering talks, they will look bad in the eyes of the Somali people! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abtigiis Posted May 28, 2008 ^^^ Very good news. I think I read it somewhere. But I wasn't putting it here as information. I was more of postulating. Anyway, ilaahay ha rumeeyo warkaaga. Talking is not the problem Abu Geejire. It is talking for what? ma wax heshiin karaa kuu muuqda? Kala qaybsiga unbaan diidan ahay. If they have to talk, it has to be as ARS. A faction xal ma keenayo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGONGE Posted May 28, 2008 Stuff and nonsense.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fabregas Posted May 28, 2008 Stuff and nonsense@ your reply Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Emperor Posted May 28, 2008 The Asmara group will fire the Shariif soon. Abtigiis, rumour has it members of the Asmara group have been lurkingly escaping from Asmara for Djibouti to join their Shariifka leaving behind Dahir Aweeys lonely, so lonely Read below:- ------------------------------------- Xubno ka tirsan Isbaheysiga Asmra oo Ku sii Qulqulaya Magaalada Jabuuti,Oday Dahir Aweys oo ku cidloobay Tuulada Asmara. Inta badan xubnaha is bahaysiga Tuulada Asmara ayaa kusii gurmaya dalka Jabuuti,waxaana taasi ay kusoo beegmeysaa iyadoo dhawaan uu Shariif Xassan Sheekh Aadan Gudoomiyaha Golaha Dhexe ee Isbaheysiga Asmara ku baaqay in Xubnaha Ka Tirsan Golaha Isbaheysiga ay si Deg Deg ah ku soo gaaran Magaalada Jabuuti. Wararkii ugu dambeeyay oo aanu ka helnay dalka Jabuuti ayaa iminka sheegaya in ilaa iyo haatan magaalada Jabuuti ay soo gaareen xubno badan oo ka tirsan Isbaheysigaasi,oo tagitaankooda Jabuutina loo arkay in uu yahay Jawaab degdeg ah oo ay ka bixiyeen amarkii kasoo baxay guddoomiyaha golaha dhexe ee Isbahasyigaasi. Xubnihii ugu dambeeyay ee Jabuuti Gaaray waxaa ka mida Prof cabdiraxmaan Ibbi oo horay uga tirsanaa baarlamanka Soomaaliya laakin galay xubnihii shaqada baarlamaanka qaranka laga ceyriyay. Tagitaanka inta badan xubnaha is bahaysigu ay tageen magaalada Jabuuti ayaa kusoo beegmaya iyadoo dabayaaqada todobaadkan lagu wado in dalka Jabuuti uu ka furmo kulan dib u heshiisineed oo dhex maraya isbahasiga Asmara iyo wakiilo ka socda dowlada federalka Soomaaliya. Dhinaca kale Tuulada Asmara waxaa ku shirsan Odey daahir Aweys iyo kooxdiisa tirada yar waxaana ay ka wada tashanayaan sidii ay wax yeeli lahaayeen maadama ay umuuqdaan kuwo ku cidloobaya tuulada Asmara. Sheekh Shariif oo malintii Axadii qabtay shrijaraa’id ayaa sheegay in dadka tuulada ku hartay aanay tiro ahaan ka badnayn 14 xubnood,iyadoo ay sidaa ahyd ayaa hadana ay xubno kale ka soo go’een. Saacadihii ugu dambeeyay. Si kastaba ha ahaatee waxaa muuqata labada shariif in ay isbaheysigii Asmara Majooritigiisa ulasoo wareegeen dalka Jabuuti diyaarna ay u yihiin in ay hanaanka nabada Soomaaliya qeybta kaga aadan ka qaataan,waxaase Tuulada Asmara ku go’doomay dad aad u tiro yar oo uu hogaaminayo Oday daahir Aweys oo hada haya hogaanka kooxda argagixisada ah ee Shabaab. Xafiiska war qabadka shabakada wararka carmooyin.com ee Baydhabo. Contact:carmooyin@hotmail.com or carmooyin @gmail.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abtigiis Posted May 28, 2008 ^ O! Carmooyin.com miyaa. It is telling. Actually they are one of my favourite pastime sites. Qosolkay iga dhameeyaan. Along with safkahore.com oo old gurad Xayraamiin SNM ay qoraan! Do you seriously take their news as credible? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
