NASSIR Posted June 27, 2010 Beeshu way haraado, hormood uma maqnee...... The rising star, Ikraan sings the above lyrics--in praise of Kulmiye--in sultry voice, donning on colorful traditional sarong. Her simple back-and-front slide may easily make a critic forget the sour taste underneath the message: a bleating cry for justice against the center, Hargeisa. The main clan of Bur'o, Togdheer region are today politically conscious and thus agitate for a democratic change. But Riyale is expected to prevail in this geographically and politically constrained election whose results (if it is announced in favor of the incumbent) might as well trigger in social unrest--and eventually the hard resolve by Silanyo's community to go their own seperate ways by ending an unholy marriage and the blind support of an implausible idea. Make no mistake about it, the people of Bur'o are in many ways in favor of Somali unity. Many notable Somali nationalists whom we celebrate for their heroic struggle which liberated Somalia from the European colonialism of yore like Sheikh Bashir and Micheal Mariano both called Bur'o their home base. It is also the base of Northern al-Itihad group, a well-established business and religious community that is commercially linked to the booming North-eastern port town of Bosaso. Until the current euphoria subsides we might wait to witness how Bur'o is cracking it open the shell behind the kinship flag--the rallying cry for independence and of common grievances. The secession scheme has failed thus far only to create a political framework that resulted in a dominated position for the people of Bur'o during all these years of lawlessness and anarchy in Somalia. And it is ripe for manipulation unless tangible efforts are made to democratize the system and stanch the public bleeding Mr. Riyale and his power brokers instigated, a monumental task indeed. Silanyo now stands a slim chance of dethroning his rivals though he still has feverish supporters vowing to wreck the boat when Riyale gets re-elected. On the other hand, supporters of the incumbent governor are critical of Silanyo's ability to lead because of his age, fear of nepotism (recall how one of the esteemed elders of "Somaliland" spelled out his opposition to the Kulmiye out of clannish motivation), and alleged commission of past crimes against humanity during the SNM days. The new song promises stability, sustained rule of democracy and commitment to securing an international recognition once the Kulmiye party-led politician Mr. Silanyo can beat all predictions against his candidacy if he is allowed to freely and fairly thrash Riyale in the theatrical race to the presidency. But the fear of voilence within the secessionist block of former British Somaliland colony is for all intents and purposes undeniable cause for concern; it harks back to the structural set up of the political parties, engineered initially by late Mr. Egal after he was chosen by the clan Elders to form a government. The three parties were set up in a way that primarily excludes the major clan of Oodweyne for any meaningful role other than to throw in their weight in favor of either Udub - dominated by the folks of Saaxil region--or go with the party of their closest kith and kin, the Ucid frontrunner. At one time, Dr. Mohamed Abdi "Gabose" who hails from Oodweyne was arrested on July 28, 2007 for forming the political party, Qaran (The Nation). Amnesty International wrote, "The three Qaran leaders were charged with seditious assembly, on the grounds that they had held illegal public political meetings." Far from it, their case was to contest this election prior to its two-time suspension and to give political rights to the people of Oodweyne who felt that they had been deprived of the chance to compete and decide for their own interest. Their main political disadvantage is that they are spread out across several regions all of which they, geographically, constitute minority. However, there is a cry of hunger and thirsty in the minds of reer Bur'o today to defeat those who had already been dubbed as the "rightly guided" captain of this rickety seperatist boat--sailing into an uncharted territory--far away from its juridical harbour. Let's watch how the upcoming events unfold in the Triangle area... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedSea Posted June 27, 2010 There is no subliminal message here, walal. Th term "Beesha" in this sense strictly means somaliland as a whole. Beesha haraadan waa Somaliland. Waxaanay u haradan yihiin is bedel. Waa caynkaa weeye. Nonetheless very well written and good effort on your part. We always welcome opposing views. It's what keeps the discussions going. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Somalia Posted June 27, 2010 Originally posted by Nassir: Beeshu way haraado, hormood uma maqnee...... The rising star, Ikraan sings the above lyrics--in praise of Kulmiye--in sultry voice, donning on colorful traditional sarong . Her simple back-and-front slide may easily make a critic forget the sour taste underneath the message: a bleating cry for justice against the center, Hargeisa. The main clan of Bur'o, Togdheer region are today politically conscious and thus agitate for a democratic change. But Riyale is expected to prevail in this geographically and politically constrained election whose results (if it is announced in favor of the incumbent) might as well trigger in social unrest--and eventually the hard resolve by Silanyo's community to go their own seperate ways by ending an unholy marriage and the blind support of an implausible idea Make no mistake about it, the people of Bur'o are in many ways in favor of Somali unity. Many notable Somali nationalists whom we celebrate for their heroic struggle which liberated Somalia from the European colonialism of yore like Sheikh Bashir and Micheal Mariano both called Bur'o their home base. It is also the base of Northern al-Itihad group, a well-established business and religious community that is commercially linked to the booming North-eastern port town of Bosaso. Until the current euphoria subsides we might wait to witness how Bur'o is cracking it open the shell behind the kinship flag--the rallying cry for independence and of common grievances. The secession scheme has failed thus far only to create a political framework that resulted in a dominated position for the people of Bur'o during all these years of lawlessness and anarchy in Somalia. And it is ripe for manipulation unless tangible efforts are made to democratize the system and stanch the public bleeding Mr. Riyale and his power brokers instigated, a monumental task indeed. Silanyo now stands a slim chance of dethroning his rivals though he still has feverish supporters vowing to wreck the boat when Riyale gets re-elected. On the other hand, supporters of the incumbent governor are critical of Silanyo's ability to lead because of his age, fear of nepotism (recall how one of the esteemed elders of "Somaliland" spelled out his opposition to the Kulmiye out of clannish motivation), and alleged commission of past crimes against humanity during the SNM days. The new song promises stability, sustained rule of democracy and commitment to securing an international recognition once the Kulmiye party-led politician Mr. Silanyo can beat all predictions against his candidacy if he is allowed to freely and fairly thrash Riyale in the theatrical race to the presidency. But the fear of voilence within the secessionist block of former British Somaliland colony is for all intents and purposes undeniable cause for concern; it harks back to the structural set up of the political parties, engineered initially by late Mr. Egal after he was chosen by the clan Elders to form a government. The three parties were set up in a way that primarily excludes the major clan of Oodweyne for any meaningful role other than to throw in their weight in favor of either Udub - dominated by the folks of Saaxil region--or go with the party of their closest kith and kin, the Ucid frontrunner. At one time, Dr. Mohamed Abdi "Gabose" who hails from Oodweyne was arrested on July 28, 2007 for forming the political party, Qaran (The Nation). Amnesty International wrote, "The three Qaran leaders were charged with seditious assembly, on the grounds that they had held illegal public political meetings." Far from it, their case was to contest this election prior to its two-time suspension and to give political rights to the people of Oodweyne who felt that they had been deprived of the chance to compete and decide for their own interest. Their main political disadvantage is that they are spread out across several regions all of which they, geographically, constitute minority. However, there is a cry of hunger and thirsty in the minds of reer Bur'o today to defeat those who had already been dubbed as the "rightly guided" captain of this rickety seperatist boat--sailing into an uncharted territory--far away from its juridical harbour. Let's watch how the upcoming events unfold in the Triangle area... I am so glad you posted this right before I posted Nassir. You are definitely right!!!! The stars are in alignment for the mugged ones in Burco. Go Siilaanyo... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalax Posted June 27, 2010 lool Dr.Gaboose being from Oodweyne?@ a confused person must have written this clearly, it's simple as this there is three candidates from the three major regions with the biggest populations, Awdal = Riyaale, Hargeysa= Faysal, Togdheer = Siilaanyo simple as that this election those three regions have those three candidates but if we are talking about tribally The people of Faysal and the people of Oodweyne are 1 whoever thinks something else is otherwise confused and needs to study lineages of somaliland. The people of Siilaanyo are those from eastern burco areas. The people of Riyaale are those from Awdal. A simple breakdown. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalax Posted June 27, 2010 It's funny how the article tries to divide the people of Oodweyne & Sallaxley who are both descent from 1 son of duriiyaada like history tells, while the people of eastern burco are a union of 3 sons of duriiyaada does that make sense? what the article also failed to mention is neither the people of saxiil or gabiley have any candidate running for presidency this elections. Once again why only mention michael maryaamo and sheikh bashiir, why not mention also sultan amaan nuur - the man who fought against the british and led the dervish in burco or why not mention Ina-Garre who was the general that was head of eastern somaliland as far as maydh and burco and use to have armies to protect the people of somaliland from the threat of then the so called "Qadriyah movement also known as Dervish" thus so far we can clearly say this article is biased. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NASSIR Posted June 27, 2010 Originally posted by Libaahe*: It's funny how the article tries to divide the people of Oodweyne & Sallaxley who are both descent from 1 son of duriiyaada like history tells, while the people of eastern burco are a union of 3 sons of duriiyaada does that make sense? what the article also failed to mention is neither the people of saxiil or gabiley have any candidate running for presidency this elections. . Libaaxe, you didn't get the gist of my commentary. No doubt the people of Saaxil region support Riyale and Udub since they are the financial engine and the power brokers of Riyale's establishment whereas the people of Oodweyne are torn in between Udub and Ucid, neither of which they play any dominant role. They decided then to form a new political party, Qaran, but it was altogether rejected and their leaders accused of seditious activities. I said it already the latter party is led by Feisal whom they share close lineage. I'm just stating the all-known perception and environment that the people of Oodweyne are die hard opposed to Kulmiye's leadership. This is where clan politics in "Somaliland's election" comes into full view for the rest of us. Qalib, the song was just a springboard to the underlying issues, which can drastically change the outlook of this whole process. How do you see Riyale winning it again? Mr. Somalia, it will be interesting to watch the end result of this showdown limited mainly to the Northwestern region and Togdheer. . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thankful Posted June 27, 2010 Oodweyne is there anyone at your level in your imaginery world or are you the undisputed king? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AfricaOwn Posted June 27, 2010 Originally posted by Thankful: Oodweyne is there anyone at your level in your imaginery world or are you the undisputed king? Comment on Nasir' post, what do you think of his analysis? Ps. Nasir, you got things figured out . apparently I don't much power in SL :eek: . Off to Erigavo on Tuesday. I hope that you can say that as well, but you can't because your clan is worthless and too weak . Later Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted June 27, 2010 Africa own wadanki ka waran ma nabbad tagtay ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NASSIR Posted June 29, 2010 Originally posted by Oodweyne: Nassir , In other words, the largest contention of your argument rest with the notion that says that the "Oodweyne Constituency" ( read: clan ) were really thinking that Dr. Gaboose's Qaran association was going to be their political vehicle, before it was banned, indeed. Consequently, since that is the be all and end all you know-how about the deeply retail politics of this "constituency" and how they have chosen their political representation from here on out, which you furthermore are so woefully misinformed about it, then, the best one can do is to say, poor lad, indeed... And, perhaps, hope in turn that you will in time tell us how you are faring in your "delusion" of thinking that some sort of "pirate-land agenda" will stop Somaliland in it's political tracks, indeed.... Regards, Oodweyne. Oodweyne, I would rather choose to refrain from dissecting the internal clan politics of "Somaliland" until the results of this contrained election are released so then we can attend to the diagnosis and cure if--God forbid--things took on a drastic turn. I would really welcome if this delicate process of electoral transition passes without subsequent tribal violence or that if the opposition leaders show an eminent degree as to overcome their enmity to one other. AfricaOwn, now has it come to this brazen delusion of yours that Erigavo is reduced to one you wish to issue admission tickets to the owners whose lines of descent are well-known. It is silly assumption of yours that those who had defied the authority of the most powerful empire in the administration of their affairs would give it up their lands to a clan entity? Nevertheless If my political analysis on the Oodweyne folks with relation to Kulmiye's leadership stands to give my argument some credibility, you would have offered your side of approval or contention either way as to not cast it aside and retaliate in an insolent comment against those who with the ferocity and tenacity of purpose conduct themselves in that manner with their western neighbors. Young man, In this shared city, even the slightest provocation, in the clannish sense, is at all times avoided or when the inevitable conflict occurs rushed to a quick redress out of maintaining an environment of peace and continuation of the general progress of the city. Besides the commercial establishment and security infrastructure of Erigavo, the people of Sanaag, western Bari, Nugal and Juba regions a.k.a reer Maakhir have it under their control. It is well known fact of life that "Somaliland" can't volunteer to change or disrupt that security or administrative balance within the city whether or not your secessionist project is rejected or your militias routed anytime they venture outside their clan border, that means much of Sanaag region. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chief_Aaqil Posted June 29, 2010 I would really welcome if this delicate process of electoral transition passes without subsequent tribal violence. 'Tribal violance' maxaa meesha keenay marka horeba? Have you seen any proof, indication or basis on which you can assume or think there will be tribal violance? Have you seen any tribal violance between those constituencies the previous 15 years? Or the previous 3 democratic elections,voter registration, campaigns, voting, transitions of power? The answer is No. The only think that is clear hear is that you HOPE there will be violance. And that my friend is very sad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites