Puntland should declare itself the republic of Somalia

[Cowke]

Puntland will never be the capital nor the host of the Somali Republic. Even if a change of capital does happen(which is slim) it will most likely be located to a more neutral center such as baydhabo.

 

Puntland doesn't need every jack, tom, di3k and harry coming to puntland and pissing all over our backyard.

 

We don't need all the extremist focusing their resources of attack on the tfg in garowe. This will not solve the problem.

 

Shifting capitals people think will solve the problem. Lol only the naive short-sighted people think as such.

 

Shabab and Hizbi Islam will simply shift their attacks from hamar and intensify it where-ever the tfg goes. After-all they are looking at taking the whole country.

 

Do we want to risk our local civilian population just so who we can host embassies, and institutions? No I don't. Safety comes first really.

 

The battle-ground between the tfg and islamic fascist can never be hosted on puntland soil. No puntland politician ever think in this crazy manner. Some think of separation, but noone ever ever says "lets shift the capital to our backyard" were not that short-sighted!!!!

 

The battle-ground will continue to remain where it is and the tfg will be funded and supported by international agencies along with domestic supporters such as puntland.

 

This is the best method and the current method at play.

 

Ps: General Duke im not juje, and i made it clear to you before I only use This name. I don't wear ten different shaatis, not in my blood.

[General Duke]

Oodweyne, let us engage in a debate with no insults or snide comments.

 

I read through the long winded nonsense that you typed, and all I could decipher was an empty rhetoric from an individual who has no clue. This is not an insult to you in anyway but a fact that we have come accustomed to in SOL.

 

There are a few important things to note.

 

1. Puntland covers more than 1/3 of Somalia and covers a larger area than the secessionist strongholds of Togdheer, Awdal & Waqoye Galbeed.

It is a peaceful state that has gained the recognition as was typified by the meeting held by Congressman Payne in which the secessionists were humiliated.

 

2. The secessionists have failed after 18 years to gain any recognition or even special status. Their closest ally Melez Zenawi has been unwilling or unable to recognize them, their “Mother” the Queen of England does not even know they exist.

 

3. Puntland is a pro Somali state and thus all Somali’s can feel at home under the blue flag, and it can be a launching pad for the restoration of the republic in a way present day secessionists enclave can never offer.

 

Mr Oodweyne while you talk a great game, you present no facts, and your use of English only impresses those who have never mastered that tongue.

 

The subject of this thread is important, we have in Puntland, the land, the population and the ideological framework to bring back the republic of Somalia, your failed attempt at nationhood coupled with Riyaale’s humiliation of the system and the clans pride highlights that you present not even an obstacle to my calculations and to this project.

[xiinfaniin]

One can clearly see through the façade of nationalism duke dons on. The call for Puntland to assume the responsibility of entire nation without consultation of other stakeholders is pure nonsense. There is a tfg which PL is part of it. It has transitional arrangement, which spells out the composition of Federal Republic of Somalia, and where its capital is, and in which region. Puntland is a signatory of the said arrangement and will not pull out because of the protests of the some remnants of old man, who are still bitter about Ina Yusuf hasty departure.

Somalia needs a constructive dialogue, not a reactionary talk.

[General Duke]

Again when one encounters the waffle of our Oodwenye he is reminded of an old quote

“There is nothing more frightening than ignorance in action.”

 

Now our brother from the secessionist camp is unable to refute a single point, and then starts of with name dropping and unnecessary and out of place quotes. Adeer face facts, the simple truth is in the time we have been in SOL, Puntland has taken massive strides and its former leaders, Yusuf & Cade have played a crucial role in changing the balance of power to the unionist realist camp of Somalia.

 

Today I present the next step in that direction, to declare the state as the custodian of Somalia and to house the national institutions in her bossom.

 

You are looking at the past, at adeer Afwayne & little Melez. Well its true Riyaale rules the SNM because of Melez, thus what you say is true and relevant to Hargaysa, Puntland has had its elections and we have chosen our leader who we will replace if we want to soon. That fact alone should make it more worthy than any to take back the dignity of the Somali race.

 

Again, Puntland has the land, the population and the maturity to lead Somalia from darkness. Its leaders and people have created something out of something small without discarding Somali unity, the flag or the dream of a better day. No leader in Puntland claimed that he was an “Orphan” of the Queen of England. No leader in Puntland claimed that a child from “Addis Ababa is closer in kinship to the secessionist than a child born in Mogadishu”

 

Thus again Oodweyne, as I have stated before you present nothing to this table, your empty words and asinine commentary changes nothing. In Puntland we dare, and thus we eventually shall win and that will be a great day for all Somali’s.

[General Duke]

If one would care to read the thread in its entirety, the author states that a national conference should be convened and all Somali’s invited to the state to draw up a new constitution.

 

What have we to gain by wasting time, and nationalism is not the monopoly of anyone least of all those who support the weak, impotent men who have sold the sea to Kenya.

 

Again, Puntland needs to step up and take over responsibility, yes for the whole nation because the statuesque is unacceptable.

[UZTAAD]

before 1867 Germany was more than 20 small sates Prussia state which was the strongest of all united that country under the leadership of charismatic Otto von Bismarck who was very courage and able leader

Punland has the resources to do the same it needs to have the willingness and necessary sacrifice needed to achieve this goal which is the restoration of the dignity and unity of greater Somalia.

Farole need to engage the national politics and play pivotal role in shaping of the future of republic as yeey used to in his days.

[General Duke]

^^^The republic can not be left as it is, and responsability must be taken for the future of Somalia and the Somali's.

[General Duke]

“Politics is the art of the possible, the attainable - the art of the next best”

Otto von Bismarck

 

A restoration of the Somali state is more than attainable, it is not that difficult.

[UZTAAD]

we need some one like him , not the likes Sharif who can be deceived so easily by Kenyans and their walad aballa to sign away the large portions of somali sea.

[Abokor Omar]

Puntland is 1/3 of Somalia!! So, what's this suppose to mean? Its a desert and its total population is less then that of Hargeisa a single city in somaliland. Puntland is settled by a single qabil unlike the south or somaliland which are settled by a number of different qabils working together in unison.

[General Duke]

^^^Thats not a fact but your own opinion, come again lad. Hargaysa needs to come back to the fold, before it can take part or even lead this project. The south is in turmoil controlled by people who detest the Somali flag.

[ANWAR]

Indeed, pretty good idea!

 

BUT i think restoration of the Somali state

is a big responsability even for Puntland

[General Duke]

Puntland will provide the land base, the space needed for execution. The rest of Somalia will provide the muscle the intellect and together we shall restore the republic insha Allah.

[General Duke]

To resore the republic we must have a great deal of will power.

 

Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed is more important than any other.

Abraham Lincoln

[General Duke]

From the map one can clearly see that the unity campaign could be spread west & south at the same time.