Dr Faroole speaks out hardens his position: Audio

[General Duke]

Faahfaahin bur-burka kulankii Puntland & DFKMG ah

13 Nov 13, 2009 - 3:58:38 AM

 

Kulan u dhexeeyey wufuud ay kala hogaaminayeen Madaxweynaha Puntland & Madaxweynaha dowladda Federaalka Sheekh Shariif ayaa bur-burey kadib markii qo**** horey looga sii ambaqaadi lahaa heshiiskii magaalada Galkacayo.

 

Kulankan ayaa yimid kadib markii xaley labada Madaxweyne iyo wufuudooda wadaxajood hordhac ah ku yeesheen Hotel Penari oo ku yaala bartamaha magaalada Nairobi.

 

Waftiga labada dhinac ayaa saaka isugu yimid xarunta safaarada Somalia ku leedahay wadanka Kenya halkaasoo isugu yimaadeen labada dhinac.

 

Wararka laga helayo kulankaan ayaa sheegaya in bur-burkiisa uu sabab u ahaa Wasiirka Maaliyada ahna ku-xigeenka Ra'isal wasaaraha Shariif xasan oo horey u ahan jirey Gudoomiyaha Barlamanka waqtigii Cabdulahi Yusuf.

 

Dhinaca kale is-fahan la'aanta labada dhinac ayaa waxaa sal u ah in dowladda Sheekh Shariif madaxda u yahay diidey iney Puntland kala shaqeyso sidii mashaariic hurumarin u heli laheyd inta somalia inteeda kale dagaalada ka socdaan.

 

Madaxweynaha Puntland oo kulankaan kadib warbixin saxaafada gudaha iyo dibadda ka siiyey sababha keeney in kulankaan bur-buro ayaa sheegey in sababtu tahay diidmo dowladda Federaalka ka hortimid hurumarka Puntland.

 

Mr.Farole ayaa sheegey in loo doortey ilaalinta danaha dadka Puntland islamarkaana uuusan wax tanaasulaad ah ka bixineyn qodobo lagaga hur-imaanyo hurumarka Puntland.

Wasiirka Warfaafinta dowladda Sheehkh Shariif oo ka hadley arinkaan ayaa sheegey in Puntland miiska soo saartey iney dowladd tahay sidaa darteed aysan aqbali karin.

 

Warar lagu kalsoon yahay oo soo gaarey Garowe online ayaa sheegaya in Ra'isal Wasaaraha Somalia uusan Xukuumadiisa iyo Madaxweyne Sheekh Shariif aan la tusin taasoo sababtey in wadahad dambe laga galo heshiiskaas.

 

Khilaafkaan soo kala dhexgaley labada dhinac ayaa noqanaya mid kordhinaya mushkiladda Somalia xili DFKMG ah madaxdeedu tahay mid dibad joog ah islamarkaana maamusha xarumaha muqdisho kuwaasoo ay ilaaliyaan ciidamada AMISOM.

 

Waftiga Madaxweyne Shariif ayaa u dhoofey wadanka Ethiopia iyada oo warar lagu kalsoon yahay sheegayaan in sideetan Xildhibaan oo dacwo u ah ururka midowga Afrika ku sugan yihiin addis Ababa.

 

Xildhibanaadaan ayaa ka dacwoonaya siyaasada Madaxweyne Shariif taasoo noqotey mid wadanka dibadiisa wareegta.

[General Duke]

 

source + audio

[UZTAAD]

here is the video

http://www.xamarcade.com/infusions/the_kroax/embed.php?url=149

[Meiji]

The regional chieftain should worry about his clan-enclave and the increasing erosion of its clan-cohesion, which is the main source for the insecurity, piracy and corruption that affects that clan-enclave.

 

 

In the near future:

 

No chieftain or a clan will negotiate with Somalia's central authority. Somalia's National Interest is not something selfish clan-interest can erode.

[NASSIR]

Duke, his speech is pure and perspicuous. Thanks.

 

Meiji, what is with your distaste with PL. The TFG is a federal, not centralized one as you allude to your statement above. Puntland President is only asking for what his regions deserve for security, economic and social development programs. He is in control of 5/18(27% ) regions that, on top of its population, host hundreds of thousands of IDPs and remain peaceful. This whole disagreement reminds me of the JNA regional composition to which Puntland was attacked left and right by officials of "Somaliland" and the South as though there was a conspiracy of bilateral deal between the two. I mean the distruct and enmity for any devolopments aimed towards this peaceful region is so palpable that it will even be denied its proportional right to national resources. And the simple idea of the Deputy Premier that the Government not intervenes to collect or have supervisory role to Puntland resources as a countervailing response to PL's demands has no merit whatsoever. It's silly proposition at best. The TFG should thank Puntland for keeping its large Territory safe and secure for both IDPs and its residents unlike "Somaliland's" ludicrous policy stand that Somalis from the south be treated as "refugees" and not IDPs.

 

Puntland has compromised and is therefore demanding for far less than what it deserved.

 

What has the platform that installed Sheikh Shariif achieved? The man is surrounded by former warlords that do not represent no one to speak of nor control any district or region. Shariif is betting on a game that is fraught with tremendous risks if he continues to agree with self-interested warlords in his circle of advisors.

 

Can the TFG afford to lose the confidence of the progressive state of Puntland is the question?

[Mr. Somalia]

^^

 

It really amazes me when people are totally ignorant of issues and simply use invective and rhetoric as a way to make their point.

 

So yeah, Oodweyn-- let's ridicule Faroole for trying to do his best to get his people's rightful share of the federal budget.

[Xudeedi]

Prior to Puntland’s establishment, hope in the republic’s restoration was only ideal. Puntland demonstrated that regions of conflicting interests could join to form a mature and tradition oriented political setting. It’s only rational that such institution (Puntland) is the only applicable model of hope to chaotic Somalia.

 

Shariif is in no position to bargain and heads a government that has more MP’s in Nairobi than civil servants and security combined. A birth of a new conflict between the two entities would only further cripple the one legged weak Amisom government.

 

Nassir, Oodweyne is only bothered by Faroole and Ilka Jiir at the dinner Table.

 

[Mintid Farayar]

LOL @ "idea of "kissing" pictures"

[Mr. Somalia]

^^

Sounds like someone needs to up the dosage on their medication... We get it Oodweyn, you hate anything remotely resembling progress for the Puntlanders. It is o.k, nobody is shocked to find out you are a pathetic hate-filled tribalist.

 

But don't let us stop you. Do go on trivializing Faroole's latest political maneuvering in Nairobi with your patented doddering garbage. It will not affect the great state one bit.

[Mr. Somalia]

^^

No awoowe. You're just a bitter old man, that's all.

 

But on behalf of the 'defeated lot', please accept my sincere apologies for turning you into this miserable old man that you've clearly become.

 

p.s

Just for sake of my own curiosity, how is outing me as a troll every chance you get to reply to me, going to add to your posts?

 

I don't quite understand.

[Meiji]

Originally posted by NASSIR:

 

Meiji, what is with your distaste with PL. The TFG is a federal, not centralized one as you allude to your statement above. Puntland President is only asking for what his regions deserve for security, economic and social development programs. He is in control of 5/18(27% ) regions that, on top of its population, host hundreds of thousands of IDPs and remain peaceful. This whole disagreement reminds me of the

JNA regional composition to which Puntland was attacked left and right by officials of "Somaliland" and the South as though there was a conspiracy of bilateral deal between the two. I mean the distruct and enmity for any devolopments aimed towards this peaceful region is so palpable that it will even be denied its proportional right to national resources. And the simple idea of the Deputy Premier that the Government not intervenes to collect or have supervisory role to Puntland resources as a countervailing response to PL's demands has no merit whatsoever. It's silly proposition at best. The TFG should thank Puntland for keeping its large Territory safe and secure for both IDPs and its residents unlike "Somaliland's" ludicrous policy stand that Somalis from the south be treated as "refugees" and not IDPs.

 

Puntland has compromised and is therefore demanding for far less than what it deserved.

 

What has the platform that installed Sheikh Shariif achieved? The man is surrounded by former warlords that do not represent no one to speak of nor control any district or region. Shariif is betting on a game that is fraught with tremendous risks if he continues to agree with self-interested warlords in his circle of advisors.

 

Can the TFG afford to lose the confidence of the progressive state of Puntland is the question?

First of all, to me there is no genuine Somali govermnent existing. I did not recognize the illegitimate government created by foreign powers in 2004, and to this day I oppose it. Those who support the TFG are comfortable with the fact that Addis Abebba has become the pilgrimage for political prostitutes.

 

Second,

 

As Northeastern Somalia concerns, it is no different than the other regions in Somalia and it should not behave opportunistic. Its leaders and elite are corrupted and behaving in a clannish selfish manner that goes against the General Interest of Somalis. In 2004, that corrupt and selfish-clanish elite supported the creation of the Tigre Funded Group (TFG) since the leader of that illegitimate group was one of them. That opportunistic and clannish elite have supported the artificial 4.5 clan formula to become the basis for powersharing. Along with that, they supported the idea of mini-clan states which only weaken the unity and power of Somalia.

 

Anno 2009, when the concepts (4.5, TFG) they supported have been taken over by other men who have outplayed them they have resorted to silly threats of ''seceding'' and ''taking back their support for the TFG''. As Qanyare said: You can not claim your share via the 4.5 and the clan-state. Either the 4.5 or through clan-states.

 

Lastly,

 

The clannish and opportunistic elite of Northeastern Somalia (and all other groups who behave likewise) should know one thing:

 

In the near future, Somalia will have a strong central state that is elected by Somali people and in our own country. The various regions in Somalia can exercise power limited to regional issues and in strategic area's they have to work with the central state.

 

In no scenario will regional chieftains and clans be allowed to erode the unity and power of the nation. This means the central state is above any individual region or clan and as such must not negotiate with any individual clan or region. Central State= The Summ of All Somali Regions and its population. As such that collective insitution can not negotiate with an individual clan/region.

[Mr. Somalia]

^^

Meiji,

 

Arguments like yours are perpetrated by delusional darodphobes who are foaming at the mouth with hatred for Puntland's nascent power and influence in the political arena of the new Somalia. So, Mr M Society's finest, it's only natural--like Oodweyne-- that you feel so vulnerable and susceptible to Puntland's fast approaching political dominance.

[Mr. Somalia]

^^

 

Oodweyne, you said:

 

"..every other political slogan that your lot have tried have turn into dust.."

 

See, you are as predictable as the sunrise.

 

However; like I said earlier, it is indeed unfortunate that you feel so threatened by Puntland. But rest assured; your ideas of divisiveness, negativity and hopelessness will always be opposed by us.

 

Somalia will no longer remain a hostage to the type of archaic tribal mindset associated with senile folks like yourself. We will overcome.

[Mr. Somalia]

^^

 

No. You, as ever, are very wrong, Oodka. You assume, using your-- ever filthy and hate-filled tribal lenses-- that Puntland, a.k.a Pirate-land to you, is an entity solely owned and operated by your hated 'defeated lot' and as such, God forbid, that they dominate the rest of Somalia. Which ONLY goes to show you how sick you are in the head, to be filled with so much futile moronic tribalism, in this day and age. And you are wrong for it. You are wrong in your assumptions about Puntlanders, and your blind hate of Puntlanders is in the end, only hurtful to you yourself and it is unfortunate to see that it has poisoned your whole outlook on life...

 

Just maybe Oodweyn, for once, if you'd viewed Puntlanders as fellow Somalis and as brothers, instead of this big threat from the east-- you wouldn't sound so unhinged ALL the time, by fearing fictional illusions of dominance by Puntlanders and hopefully(*I won't hold my breath*)-- all your nonsensical paranoia about "'defeated lots' out to dominate 'us'" and whatnot, would become history.

 

But that's like asking for a miracle, right?

[Meiji]

Originally posted by Mr. Somalia:

^^

Meiji,

 

Arguments like yours are perpetrated by delusional

D**** phobes who are foaming at the mouth with hatred for Puntland's nascent power and influence in the political arena of the new Somalia.

Dont even hide behind the overal clan-family name because we all know how the corrupt and selfish elite of Northeastern Somalia would sell their own mothers to Meles Zenawi if they had something to gain.

 

The corrupt and opportunist elite of that region do not represent that clan-family name and it would be a disgrace to that clan-family name if such selfish and corrupt elite would represent them.

 

PS: Where was that group-feeling when poor Somali civilians, who not only share the overal clan-family name but are even within the sub-clan branch you rally support for in the Jubboyinka, were sold to Meles Zenawi?