Somali Pirate Posted May 26, 2009 this RR is just blind to the obvious. eritrea has never harmed somalis at all. Eithopia is the cancer of all somalis. This accursed nation of abysninnia has caused nothing but pain and suffering to somalis. They hate us because we are muslims and somalis. And our refusal to kneel to their oppression. Nothing more nothing less. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meiji Posted May 26, 2009 Sound analysis Me, However, do we want to balance out Ethiopia by becoming more dependent on Eritrea or by ''loyally'' accepting every decision the West takes on how Somalia should be governed or should look like? We all know that the West is the higher power in the hierarchy when it comes to deciding what happens in the Horn, and Ethiopia is its pitbull doing the dirty job in Somalia whenever the West suspects that we have ´refused´to heed their demands (2006 ICU and ensuing sponsored Ethiopian invasion/occupation) . We need to find a way to defeat not only Ethiopia, but every foreign power that has ill intentions towards our country and its long-term development. Since Ethiopia is the most direct and visible threat facing Somalis in the Horn we need to focus on solving the Ethiopian question first. How to adress the Ethiopian menace? The answer is simple, yet to translate it into practice and witness its results needs patience and dedication. Defeating Ethiopia means defeating those self-seeking socalled ''brothers'' amongst us: political and religious pretenders. More importantly, we have to change the current environment that nurtures and supports those self-seeking socalled leaders. The current environment of division, animosity, mistrust, insecurity, lawlesness, and disorganization needs to be transformed in order to stop the high ´´birth rate´´ of the calooshood-u shaqeystayaal (opportunism) and political/religious pretenders who all seem to take advantage of and prosper in the current environment that exists in Somalia. We need to direct our energies into solving the Somali problem while been less focused on a game of ''balancing out'' since that turns our country into a battle ground for foreign powers and ourselves into a weak nation that for its very existence and survival depends on foreign powers (Eritrea & foreign Jihadi´s) balancing out yet other foreign powers (Ethiopia $ the West). We have already religious pretenders doing the bidding for Alqaida and foreign Jihadi organizations on one side, while we have religious pretenders doing the bidding for the West on the other side. Should we accept this reality and chose between the two religious pretenders or denounce both camps and articulate the correct road for Somalia? Eventually, all depends on how we answer that question. Accepting the current situation and socalled ´´leaders´´ regardless of the side they are on the political spectrum in Somalia means eventually: accepting how things are and thus accepting the interference of Ethiopia, Eritrea, the West and whoever has an interest in taking a piece of the Somali pie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
me Posted May 27, 2009 ^ How do you propose that it should be done then? We all know what should be done, the question is how. So step up to the plate Meiji and lets talk about solutions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abtigiis Posted May 27, 2009 Originally posted by Meiji: Defeating Ethiopia means defeating those self-seeking socalled ''brothers'' amongst us: political and religious pretenders. More importantly, we have to change the current environment that nurtures and supports those self-seeking socalled leaders. You have all of these in Ethiopia and in plenty. Waryaa, unlike what you think, Ethiopia is an empty shell. When kenenisa Bekelle won the olympic and Ethiopian flag was put on his back at the celebrations, most Oromos fumed and threatened to disown him. They hate that flag as much as you do, or even more. Ethiopia is not as strong as you think, and as united as you think. To answer me's quesion, the starting point of our solution is to have a credible government in Somalia. A credile, functioning government will frighten Ethiopia by its mere existence. And can promote self-determination for somali's elsewhere peacefully in global fora. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belial Posted May 27, 2009 RR: Are you joking? Eritrea is a threat to djibouti because djioubti is an ethiopian colony. Politically speaking. I dont need to bring anything forward to you. As I said everything is recorded. Searh And you will find it. Sharif HAS a peace-agremment with ethiopia. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abtigiis Posted May 27, 2009 RR doesn't know Djibouti conviniently wanted a skirmish with Eritrea to please Ethiopia at a time Ethiopia was getting angry over Djibouti's support to the ICU. He doesn't know that Ismael was given prime land aorund Nazreth and the US had a hand in all these turn around. Belial, I suggest you halt discussion with someone who is reading the media news in its colours. He may be recovering on the romantics side, but it is clear RR is still in deep abyss when it comes to his political wit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaylbaro Posted May 27, 2009 the starting point of our solution is to have a credible government in Somalia. A credile, functioning government will frighten Ethiopia by its mere existence. And can promote self-determination for somali's elsewhere peacefully in global fora. And that is far from sight right now .......... isn't it ?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abtigiis Posted May 27, 2009 For you and for many others who gave a national assignment to Ina Cabdi Godane to continue to mess up the south under the guise of Alshabab amiir Abuzubeir, it is long long indeed. But when the head of Ina cabdi godane is sent back to you and Alshabab is obliterated, it will end. And that is not far. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaylbaro Posted May 27, 2009 it is long long indeed And that is not far Hmmmmmmmmmmm ,, bal miduun ku adkayso ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abtigiis Posted May 27, 2009 It is clear. Read again. For whom it is far, for whom it is near, I mean. READ AGAIN. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaylbaro Posted May 27, 2009 All i see is YOU saying "it is long long indeed and it is not far" ........ Read again unless you edited ....... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites