General Duke Posted November 13, 2010 ^^^lol dont worry adeer, as long as you aint recognised I am happy.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hales Posted November 13, 2010 Yeah and one is from goldogob we can't really call him a puntlander How about i divide the Habros into sub clan, surely in that sense their not all the same either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted November 13, 2010 ^^ the pirate state is one sub clan state saaxib. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thankful Posted November 13, 2010 Originally posted by Xaji_Xunjuf: ^^ the pirate state is one sub clan state saaxib. Xaaji are you one to talk? Seriously, didn't your last (s)elections have the only 2 opposition leaders from the triangle admin? All you presidents have been from that one group, except for Riyaale who took over for Egal when he passed away! Only the TFG is the government that has Somalis from every corner working for it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted November 13, 2010 facts Maxammad abdi xashi is supposedly from the pirate state and one of the heavyweight clans , you share a close bloodline with. Yet he could not even finish his term ,six months was he an interim president. And before we knew it Tuute muuse claimed the thrown. Mathmatically it's not even possible to have a non ssdf president in the pirateland.Just look at their so called Parliament. The ssdf hegemony is undefeatable in their clan enclave.Goldogob have 4 seats in the parliament the maakhrians have nine. The garaads 17 parliamentarians. and the ssdf having 31. And there is no one man one vote elections like in the rep of somaliland. faroole got elected by the so called clan elders in the parliament. Former president daaahir rayaale kahin ruled somaliland 8 long years and he was the vp for 5 years and he was elected by the people. and his clan hails from one province in the rep of somaliland. Everything is possible in our country because of democracy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thankful Posted November 13, 2010 Originally posted by Xaji_Xunjuf: Everything is possible in our country because of democracy Actually not everything is possible. It is was absolutely impossible from someone from Sool or Sanaag (you know who I am referring to) to win the presidency in your last (s)election in June. The only two opposition leaders came from the triangle, not a single person from Sool or Sanaag. You claim that your border stretches to their area's yet they had no one running for president. So even if you say you have a democracy where people vote! I am telling you it is rigged so that people from Sool and Sanaag can't run! Riyaale from a minority group won because Egal had passed away, the vice-president was from the dominant group which had heavy influence. If everything is possible then why didnt someone from Sool or Sanaag run? Puntland needs to improve it's process of choosing it's leaders, it needs to bring one person one vote, it also needs to allow women to run as well. But the fact remains everyone can atleast attempt to win the presidency. The vice-pres is from Sool, Ilka-Jiir almost won. Look, Puntland needs to make itself more inclusive and so does NW Somalia. You are in no position to call anyone a clan state! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gabbal Posted November 13, 2010 Puntland cannot claim to represent more than Garowe with Laas Caanood and Ceerigaabo under Hargeisa control. Realities must be understood as they stand. Puntland as it stands can claim to be represented by only Professor Abdiwali, a man I respect and admire and who is a good family friend. Even still, I presume Faroole will be more disappointed with Abdiwali than Cumar Abdirashiid, based on Abdiwali's absolute nationalistic demeanor. Qaran before qabiil was always his motto. Being a Somali professor from Western New York like the prime minister, I assume the two are very close friends. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalax Posted November 13, 2010 Gabbal. Erigavo has nothing to do with puntland don't let the pirate clowns deceive you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacpher Posted November 14, 2010 ^Boowe waxaa lagu moodaa qof iska war hayya. Gabbal: PL iyo Faroole inaga daayee adeer Hiiraale muxuu helay? Meeshaasey wax inooga dhow yihiinee. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted November 14, 2010 Gabbal as usual talks the usual cheap shite. The three Ministers represent Puntland, as Goldogob & Buhudle are Puntland as Bosaso and Garowe. Gabbal might not know that the speaker of Puntland State is himself from Goldogob and we already know where the VP hails from and various powerful figures. The problem here is under his logic his sub clan have no region since its all under Al Shabaab and Ahlu Sunna. We have also seen how successful old Hiiraale was in Beled-Hawo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AfricaOwn Posted November 14, 2010 Originally posted by Thankful: quote:Originally posted by Xaji_Xunjuf: Everything is possible in our country because of democracy Actually not everything is possible. It is was absolutely impossible from someone from Sool or Sanaag (you know who I am referring to) to win the presidency in your last (s)election in June. The only two opposition leaders came from the triangle, not a single person from Sool or Sanaag. You claim that your border stretches to their area's yet they had no one running for president. Originally posted by Thankful: the vice president who hails from Borama was sent back to his community. This is exactly why someone from Awdal was made vice-president is so he can travel to the region and reassure the people. Contradictions, after contradictions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalina Posted November 14, 2010 Originally posted by General Duke: Gabbal as usual talks the usual cheap shite. The three Ministers represent Puntland, as Goldogob & Buhudle are Puntland as Bosaso and Garowe. Gabbal might not know that the speaker of Puntland State is himself from Goldogob and we already know where the VP hails from and various powerful figures. The problem here is under his logic his sub clan have no region since its all under Al Shabaab and Ahlu Sunna. We have also seen how successful old Hiiraale was in Beled-Hawo. Duke wuxuu ku waashey PL. War indho kale yeelo qabiiliste yaho! 4.5 ayaa wasiirada lagu maamuley n Farmaajo did an awesome job marka heesaha badan oo aan la dhegeysanin naga daaf. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AhmadTaha Posted November 14, 2010 Ra'iisal wasaaruhu waa fiican yahay, waa intaas oo uu ugala sii dhowaado. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted November 14, 2010 The PM first move is positive. Ninnac calm down sis, no need to get stressed, I am sure Yarisow exitis upseting you a great deal.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalina Posted November 14, 2010 lol@Yarisow, rubbing it in yeah? I'm sure he will be accommodated somehow, he is simply lagama maarmaan. You will be proved wrong qabiilisteyaho! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites