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mwafrica   

Salaam aleikum my dear brothers and sisters.

 

I am from Kenya, but I wanted to contribute something to this discussion...

 

 

Oil, Not Terrorists, the Reason for US Attack On Somalia

http://allafrica.com/stories/200701220368.html

 

The Nation (Nairobi)

OPINION

January 22, 2007

Posted to the web January 22, 2007

Wanjohi Kabukuru

Nairobi

 

JUST WHY DID THE US ATTACK Somalia two weeks ago? Of course, the answer given for the US military intervention and the generally accepted notion is the hunt for terrorists. But is it?

 

Are terrorists the only bone of contention the US has with Somalia? When the US military devised "Operation Restore Hope" in 1993 which was short-lived after they were whipsawed by rag-tag militia in and around Mogadishu, were they fighting the 'war on terror'?

 

They couldn't have been because this war was to start much later. If anything it is a post-Sept 11 phenomenon. So then why did the US bomb ICU extremists in the name of Al Qaeda terrorists and not throughout last year when they occupied Mogadishu?

 

Just why is Somalia so important to the US, and by extension the big boys of Europe and some Gulf states?

 

A UN Somalia Monitoring Group report released in November 2005 reveals that a dozen countries, namely Yemen, Djibouti, Libya, Egypt, Kazakhstan, Ethiopia, Iran, Syria, Eritrea, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia and Uganda were all poking their noses into the Somalia pie.

 

What the UN Somalia Monitoring Group didn't reveal, however, is that these were not the only countries which were interested in the country.

 

The little known yet well-heeled contact group, consisting of Norway, the US, UK, France and Tanzania (just an appendage) are also deeply enmeshed in Somalia.

 

While the terrorism theory holds some water, the reality of the factors contributing to the mess in Somalia is pegged on natural resources. Oil and gas are Somalia's Achilles heel. It is an open secret that four US oil giants are sitting pretty on money-spinning concessions expecting to reap huge windfalls from massive resources of both oil and gas in Somalia.

 

The story of Somalia and oil goes back to the colonial period. British and Italian geologists first identified oil deposits during that period of imperialism.

 

The first oil wells historically referred to as the Daga Shabell series were dug in the 1960s. Tiny gas discoveries adjacent to Socotra were also noted.

 

The race for these precious natural resources took a new turn in 1988, when the United Nations Development Programme (UNDP) and the World Bank, with the support of the governments of Britain, France and Canada and backed by several Western oil companies financed a regional hydrocarbon study of the countries bordering the Red Sea and the Gulf of Eden.

 

The countries were Somalia, Ethiopia and Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia was later dropped, but not before it had been established that within the study area, massive deposits of oil and gas existed.

 

The results of the findings were presented to a three-day American Association of Petroleum Geologists, Eastern Hemisphere group conference, in London in September, 1991. Is there oil in Somalia?

 

Listen to the answer:

 

"It's there. There's no doubt there's oil there," said geologist Thomas E. O'Connor, the World Bank's principal petroleum engineer, who steered the in-depth, three-year study of oil prospects in Somalia's Gulf of Eden in the northern coastal region.

 

The study was intended to encourage private investment in the petroleum potential of eight African nations. The conclusions of their findings are quite telling as the geologists put Somalia and Sudan at the top of the list of prospective commercial oil producers.

 

While presenting their results during the conference, two geologists involved in the study (an American and an Egyptian) reported that the investigation of nine exploratory wells dug in Somalia pointed out that the region was "situated within the oil window, and thus (is) highly prospective for gas and oil."

 

Geologist, Z. R. Beydoun, who was involved in the survey, noted that "the geological parameters conducive to the generation, expulsion and trapping of significant amounts of oil and gas" were within the offshore sites. Soon after a race for lucrative deals kicked off in earnest.

 

Four US oil companies, namely Conoco, Chevron, Amoco and Philips have concessions in nearly two thirds of Somalia. This quartet of oil conglomerates was granted these contracts in the final days of Somalia's deposed dictator, Siad Barre. The US first military engagement in Somalia was fully supported by Conoco.

 

Mr Kabukuru is a Nairobi-based freelance journalist

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Thanks for the information mwafrica. I already had knowledge that America’s involvement in Somalia was solely about oil. America was becoming impatient with Somalia. Somalis were incapable of creating a government for 16 years and so. It was time for America to interfere in Somalia affairs and establish a government that will serve American’s interests without the need of retaliating or being disobedient. The TFG is the prefect match, men who don’t know when the country is being bombed will never know if America is drilling oil in any part of the country.

 

America will do anything within its powers to make certain that they will obtain oil from Somalia, insha’allah and to Allah I pray that they may not get any share of the oil that is found in Somalia soil, they have killed too many Somalis and their blood is soaked in the Somalia soil.

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Taliban   

Originally posted by mwafrica:

Salaam aleikum my dear brothers and sisters.

 

I am from Kenya, but I wanted to contribute something to this discussion...

Wa aleikum salaam, mwafrica. Welcome to SOL.

 

Mr. Kabukuru makes a convincing point; Somalia's invasion has as well to do with exploiting the dwindling energy resources worldwide. My thinking is, the Islamic Courts Union were developing into a stabilizing force, and logic would dictate they would contact China, Malaysia and other friendly nations about oil investments in Somalia. The Islamic Courts Union would have nothing to do with the US and other imperialist nations on oil investments in Somalia. So, this is where the US come in the picture.

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Xoogsade   

Originally posted by DigiTalbAct3ria:

Horn and Pi, the clannish thinking is not something we can wish away. A good way to defeat it is to undermine it. The TFG needs to show by its actions (for example by sending the foreign troops home) that it does not seek to subjugate any particular clan.

 

What are the men with the jawaano over their heads to do? Who do they seek help from? If the only people that will listen to their plea for assistance are their clansmen, then we can't fault them for being clannish.

You are fair saxib, a sign of nobility TFG supporters lack. You are someone who is able to put himself in other people's shoes to see matters from thier prespective. Again, a character these TFG supporters lack. For the selfish bigots, the entire world revolves around them and their clan, they are unwilling to reason for they have nothing to lose in their wicked mind, they are even in a worse mode when they feel their clanish interests are threatened as they have demonstrated unabashedly time and again on these forums. The plight and misery of others is not their problem. Wax kastoo ka xaaraan ah waa u xalaal.

 

The hooded brought to muqdisho have no one else except their clansmen for support and I think it is high time their clansmen demanded their release or take some serious action. These hooded men have brought peace to Muqdisho and gave their people what they needed the most, peace, prosperity and dignity which the stooges revoked and couldn't bring to begin with. That is the only crime of the hooded men brough in shackles. The TFG thugs don't care about anyone and are not concerned as long as they are surrounded by Xabashi troops in Villa Somalia protected from the people who didn't welcome them into town. It comes as no surprise to me the usual bigots on the forum open their mouth in defense of the vile.

 

 

They point towards Geedi and some Warlords in the TFG as representatives of Muqdisho clans, if these men cared about and represented reer Muqdisho, they wouldn't accept Xabashi tanks destroy the peace the city enjoyed. In true clan representation, a clan representative who has his cklansmen's interest at heart never does anything harmful to them and stands in teh way of those who are indifferent. The warlords of teh TFG are no more representatives of Muqdisho than A/Y is. There is complete disconnect between the TFG and the People who live In Muqdisho. That is the reality. The TFG is a condemned organization, their packers know that very well to the extent they are telling the stooges to be more inclusive. The TFG is unwelcome and despised and that is what I expressed. If that makes me or anyone else with he same views a clanist, blessed be that clanist.

 

 

PS: If these hooded men and the tied up women, and the children were from the clan of A/Y OR from that of Hiiraale, the two above who replied with their usual bigotry would have talked differently. Munaafaqnimada dhuuxay kaga jirtaa ismana arkaan. Dadka islaameedaa u daran.

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