Bosaso Clean-Up Day. PICS

[Mr. Somalia]

Originally posted by Cowke:

Yeah bro they have land-fill outside the city. That has been sorted out.

 

However their needs to be better system. It would be a lot less time consuming by having a huge wastebin in each district and telling all residents to put their garbage in allocated bags which they can get free from the local administration.

 

Materials needed would be 32 massive dumpsters 2 dumpsters for each degan, Garbage truck,thousands of garbage of bags to be purchased bulk wise from wholesalers and given free to residents who want to use it and help the town be clean.

 

You will also need a guy hired permananent basis to do the garbage pickup rounds of the dumpsters every week and then empty it at the allocated wastefill outside of the city.

 

The only obstacles will be to convince residents to take their garbage to the allocated waste-bin in their district and people being naturally lazy in bossaso will try to skip it. The local admin should then impose a fine on the whole on neighbourhood where garbage is found littered.

 

 

For example if their garbage in front of my house even though I didn't do it the local admin should fine me for it because 1. I didnt stop the person from litering in front of my house. 2. Even if i didnt see the person littering I should've of picked it up.

 

I think that will make sanitation management alot easier for bossaso and will guarantee residents participating in keeping the city clean.

Cowke, walaale, overall these are good ideas, except for the fine penalties. Fines only alienate and piss off people. A better way for the city council to get that garbage collected would be to buy the garbage for a very small fee or food from the people themselves. Believe it or not, this will create a whole new market where buying and selling of this garbage will occur, and the city council will achieve it's objectives much quicker. This idea has already been implemented and succeeded very well in a city in Brazil know as Curitiba.

 

Residents of

Curitiba, Brazil,

think they live in the best city in the world, and a lot of outsiders agree. Curibita has 17 new parks, 90 miles of bike paths, trees everywhere, and traffic and garbage systems that officials from other cities come to study. Curibita's mayor for twelve years, Jaime Lerner, has a 92 per cent approval rating.

 

There is nothing special about Curitiba's history, location or population. Like all Latin American cities, the city has grown enormously - from 150,000 people in the 1950s to 1.6 million now. It has its share of squatter settlements, where fewer than half the people are literate. Curibita's secret, insofar that it has one, seems to be simple willingness from the people at the top to get their kicks from solving problems.

 

Those people at the top started in the 1960s with a group of young architects who were not impressed by the urban fashion of borrowing money for big highways, massive buildings, shopping malls and other showy projects. They were thinking about the environment and about human needs. They approached Curibita's mayor, pointed to the rapid growth of the city and made a case for better planning.

 

The mayor sponsored a contest for a Curibita master plan. He circulated the best entries, debated them with the citizens, and then turned the people's comments over to the upstart architects, asking them to develop and implement a final plan.

 

Jaime Lerner

was one of these architects. In 1971 he was appointed mayor by the then military government of Brazil.

 

Given Brazil's economic situation, Lerner had to think small, cheap and participatory - which was how he was thinking anyway. He provided 1.5 million tree seedlings to neighbourhoods for them to plant and care for. (

'There is little in the architecture of a city that is more beautifully designed than a tree,'

says Lerner.)

 

He solved the city's flood problems by diverting water from lowlands into lakes in the new parks. He hired teenagers to keep the parks clean.

 

He met resistance from shopkeepers when he proposed turning the downtown shopping district into a pedestrian zone, so he suggested a thirty-day trial. The zone was so popular that shopkeepers on the other streets asked to be included. Now one pedestrian street, the Rua das Flores, is lined with gardens tended by street children.

 

Orphaned or abandoned street children are a problem all over Brazil. Lerner got each industry, shop and institution to 'adopt' a few children, providing them with a daily meal and a small wage in exchange for simple maintenance gardening or office chores.

 

Another Lerner innovation was to organise the street vendors into a mobile, open-air fair that circulates through the city's neighbourhoods.

 

Concentric circles of local bus lines connect to five lines that radiate from the centre of the city in a spider web pattern. On the radial lines, triple-compartment buses in their own traffic lanes carry three hundred passengers each. They go as fast as subway cars, but at one-eightieth the construction cost.

 

The buses stop at Plexiglas tube stations designed by Lerner. Passengers pay their fares, enter through one end of the tube, and exit from the other end. This system eliminates paying on board, and allows faster loading and unloading, less idling and air pollution, and a sheltered place for waiting - though the system is so efficient that there isn't much waiting. There isn't much littering either. There isn't time.

 

Curitiba's citizens separate their trash into just two categories, organic and inorganic, for pick-up by two kinds of trucks.

Poor families in squatter settlements that are unreachable by trucks bring their trash bags to neighbourhood centres, where they can exchange them for bus tickets or for eggs, milk, oranges and potatoes, all bought from outlying farms.

 

The trash goes to a plant (itself built of recycled materials) that employs people to separate bottles from cans from plastic. The workers are handicapped people, recent immigrants, alcoholics.

 

Recovered materials are sold to local industries. Styrofoam is shredded to stuff quilt for the poor. The recycling programme costs no more than the old landfill, but the city is cleaner, there are more jobs, farmers are supported and the poor get food and transportation. Curitiba recycles two-thirds of it garbage - one of the highest rates of any city, north or south.

 

Curitiba builders get a tax break if their projects include green areas.

 

Jaime Lerner says, 'There is no endeavour more noble than the attempt to achieve a collective dream. When a city accepts as a mandate its quality of life; when it respects the people who live in it; when it respects the environment; when it prepares for future generations, the people share the responsibility for that mandate, and this shared cause is the only way to achieve that collective dream.'

[Cara.]

^Interesting!

 

Seems almost creepily well-run. Bet the local cuisine is Soylent Green.

[Mr. Somalia]

^

LOL @ "Soylent Green"

 

I wouldn't say it has become that extreme just yet. But simply a good example of a well run and well functioning city.

 

p.s

And who ever said that Charlton Heston was not a great actor. Anyone who has ever seen him in Soylent Green, El-Cid, The Omega Man, The Warlord, Major Dundee and Will Penny back to back would agree that he was one of the best there ever was...

[rudy-Diiriye]

uuuuuuuuuuf! holly-shyte...another trashcanistan city!

[Cowke]

Somalia, yeah that is better idea actually. After-all most people want a money. The only problem is what about the wealthier residents who don't need any money and will continue throwing the garbage in the street? how would they be dealt with? Wouldn't it be a wise move to prevent garbage from being thrown in the streets in the first place?

 

This cash for garbage program is very effective for the disadvantaged people like disabled, idps, unemployed etc but do you think this would be effective for everyone in the town?

 

How about businesses and how they manage waste? do you think each business should take their waste to specified dumpster inside the city whilst the residents have food for garbage program?

 

The cash for garbage program would be having idps go around all the districts and pick up garbage which is only getting 1 section of the society to be pro-active whilst we forget the rest of society like traders, government workers, etc.

 

I believe in preventation strategies rather then band-aid fixes!!! But in the case of Bossaso sanitation preventation strategies along with band aid fixes such as cash for garbage program can work quite well together.

[dambarsame]

Is this blind person called its self rudy (whom I don't know whether it is he or she) mad?

[Somalina]

Welcome to SOL

[Kamaavi]

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[Johnny B]

Originally posted by dambarsame:

Is this blind person called its self rudy (whom I don't know whether it is he or she) mad?

:newbie:

[dambarsame]

typical somali character.

 

if I am not wrong some intuitions are telling me (nevertheles your different dogma) that all of you hail from same area, I mean the last three posters

[NGONGE]

^^ Somalia?

[Oz]

Damba, That makes you one, anyone who disaggrees with you seems from the other side. And that's why I ask myself why o why is it me against the world?

[dambarsame]

Me I have never been excluded my self from somali people , let me to be one of my people

 

war ii daa dadkayga ALLAA i badaye

[Abwaan]

Waa tallaabo fiican in qashinka horseedaya cudurrada oo bilicdii degaannada Soomaaliya ku yaalla waxyeeleeyey la nadiifiyaa!