Both Ilka-Jir and Donyale can't override Maakhir Elders' Position (High Risk there)

[NASSIR]

If Maakhir's Puntland representives parrot the belligerent words of their master, they risk being seen as potential "puppets" by the communities.

 

Puntland leaders (from Badhan(Ilka-Jir) and Dhahar (Donyale) have contributed nothing to the wellbeing of Maakhir regions other than reinforce the structural disadvantage of the community as far as the electoral seats of PL is concerned. They are the hidden figurehead leaders of the two main sub-clans of the community, a long myth of the Makhirs' composition and their territorial distribution. I expect from them nothing much as far as overcoming the demands of their boss to toe his line. They should have better resigned than parroting Farole.

 

What also surprised me is how Somalia's premier and other ministers from the TFG came to the defense of the mendacious attacks of Faroole towards the people of Galgala.

 

All in all, both Ilka-jir and Donyale do not have a moral position or authority over Maakhir's elders as well as Makhir representatives at the federal level. Asha A. Abdalle, a TFG parliamentarian from the region castigated Farole's admin and his policies.

[Saalax]

Ileen Mamuul puntland kama jiiro eastern sanaag ama western bari , sheeko i always knew puntland didn't have any stronghold in sanaag and will not indeed.

[NASSIR]

Elders and Sultan Said Sultan Abdisalan rule the region.

[NASSIR]

And their rule shall continue until a government of national union comes to pass. No clan rules another clan..

[Saalax]

Nassir,but what if Ilkojiir becomes the next puntland president? don't you think others will also have the right to give him a hard time? that means he won't rule nugaal, eastern bari, mudug etc since now alot of maakhiris are refusing the orders of president faroole tasu so xaq maha?

[Saalax]

Nassir, by the way waxan rabay inan ku waydiiyo donyale ma wasiir bu ka yahay governmentka pland? mise maya.

[Peace Action]

Nassir give it up and stop defending Atam.

[NASSIR]

Donyale is not a minister.

 

what if Ilkojiir becomes the next puntland president? don't you think others will also have the right to give him a hard time?

PL is not a recognized state of a permenant Somali government and it might never will. It's temporary solution to the anarchic situation of Somalia.

This project of Federalism (initiated by the SRRC faction and Abdullahi Yousuf as Chairman) has yet to succeed as a good model of Somali Governance.

[NASSIR]

Originally posted by Peace Action:

Nassir give it up and stop defending Atam.

I am calling for a reconciliation and for peace. Don't you see the injustice against the Western Bari community and the existential risk they are posed to their sources of livelihoods such as farming and the ownership of their mineral rich land?

 

According to the International Crisis Group, PIS, which is on a direct payroll for the West, ($400 each soldier a month), is predominated by Farole's clan. Farole has no power over its independent operation and it is accused of many human rights violations through the arbitrary orders of Osman Diyano--a former commander of Ade Muse's clan militia.

[Peace Action]

Originally posted by Nassir:

quote:Originally posted by Peace Action:

Nassir give it up and stop defending Atam.

Don't you see the injustice against the Western Bari community and the existential risk they are posed to their sources of livelihoods such as farming and the ownership of their mineral rich land? I am calling for a reconciliation and for peace.

 

According to the International Crisis Group, PIS, which is on a direct payroll of the West, ($400 each soldier a month), is predominated by Farole's clan. Farole has no power over its independent operation and it is accused of many human rights violations through the arbitrary orders of Osman Diyano--a former commander of Ade Muse's clan militia.

I can understand the complaint about PIS but what is the "existential risk they are posed to their sources of livelihoods such as farming and ownership of their mineral rich land?"

 

You are defending a violent man who is front for Alshabaab and want to bring anarchy to Puntland. That is not the way to achieve progress for your community by destrying the peace.

[NASSIR]

Peace, if you had listened to VOA's interview with Atam, you would have developed a dispassionate view of the whole conflict. It's Farole who has committed a series of errors on his approach to resolving this issue. He broke an earlier agreement in Galgala. He then bypassed the Elders' intervention and request to resolve this issue in a peaceful solution. Then he declared a war on them and labeled the region as a "terrorist haven" by appealing to the world to come to his aid. He also appealed to the animalistic instinct of his sub-clan family from all walks of life to attack (defend from his perspective) a different region.

 

Prior to the two days before Karin, he ordered the deportation of hundreds of IDP's under the false pretext that they were threat to the city of Bosasso. Though condemned by international human rights organizations and UNHCR, this move was his ill-designed strategy to solicit a public support for his "campaign of full security crackdown", one that seeks a new indefensible position to justify his war on the people of Galgala and western region.

 

Considering all of this fact, who is destryong Puntland peace or turning one community against another. Besides abandoning the people of SOOL and Buhoodle while hypocritically rallying for the support of his clan from all walks of life and urging them to bear arms and kill another community, does this warlord have any moral position left to unite what is already left of this fragile clan-system?

[Thankful]

VOA, it's as if you want people to forget about the Paltalk interview, where he said he was Al Shabaab! Sometimes I wonder if you are serious or not Nassir, Atam has justified all actions taken against him since he admitted he was Al Shabaab, he can go on VOA or any other news outlet and try and back track. But it is to late!

 

No do what you said you would, and support Puntland!

[NASSIR]

^Thankful, your leader is a crook and sociopath. A former corrupt official and alleged "pirate chief" according to the UN Monitoring Group. His arrogance has no limits. You can not cover the stench of Farole's coward appeal and divisive tactics on BBC radio. At least his predecessors of the clan had wielded an illusion of invincibility and they enjoyed showing it to the peaceful clans of the South.

 

Despite Farole's shabby and vulgar terms at the media against the region, Mr. Atam denied to be a member of al-Shabaab. He said that he and his militia are from Galgala with grievances against both PL and PIS. He also said that it was his region that Puntland attacked and all he did was defend his land and people. And he vowed to defend himself should PL mount another round of attacks. He is orator and appears to be very confident with his defiant position against PL's authority.

 

His main goal is to fight--and perhaps reverse--the long injustices perpetuated by PL's security sector in Bosasso and environs where his clan call home and form majority.

[NASSIR]

His words are all there for any person with fair and objective mind to hear and freely analyse. I have not added one single twist.

[dambarsame]

Originally posted by Nassir:

Peace, if you had listened to VOA's interview with Atam, you would have developed a dispassionate view of the whole conflict. It's Farole who has committed a series of errors on his approach to resolving this issue. He broke an earlier agreement in Galgala. He then bypassed the Elders' intervention and request to resolve this issue in a peaceful solution. Then he declared a war on them and labeled the region as a "terrorist haven" by appealing to the world to come to his aid. He also appealed to the animalistic instinct of his sub-clan family from all walks of life to attack (defend from his perspective) a different region.

 

Prior to the two days before Karin, he ordered the deportation of hundreds of IDP's under the false pretext that they were threat to the city of Bosasso. Though condemned by international human rights organizations and UNHCR, this move was his ill-designed strategy to solicit a public support for his "campaign of full security crackdown", one that seeks a new indefensible position to justify his war on the people of Galgala and western region.

 

Considering all of this fact, who is destryong Puntland peace or turning one community against another. Besides abandoning the people of SOOL and Buhoodle while hypocritically rallying for the support of his clan from all walks of life and urging them to bear arms and kill another community, does this warlord have any moral position left to unite what is already left of this fragile clan-system?

Nassir stop crying and the war will continue and we will never accept the sinister cons of the dheddig folks