Che -Guevara Posted January 16, 2009 Originally posted by Somali Pirate: juje, the man is burining in his grave at the moment. Traitors and munafiqs always a get a taste before the main course Let God do the judgement! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somali Pirate Posted January 16, 2009 yes god will do the judgement. but it's not hard to see where he will end up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Juje Posted January 16, 2009 Originally posted by Somali Pirate: juje, the man is burining in his grave at the moment. Traitors and munafiqs always a get a taste before the main course The likes of you need to be exterminated....just wait by the door...Ahlu -Suuna aya kugu so socota. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Emperor Posted January 16, 2009 LST, I agree with you on that one, however Alshabaab should at least make a proper procedure to excute someone, otherwise what will the difference be between them and the former thugs that use to kill and murder innocent citizens of Kismayo. The young always to rush to carry a death sentence, what is the rush, not really necessary, take your time and think of the consequences. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Juje Posted January 16, 2009 Originally posted by Emperor: LST, I agree with you on that one, however Alshabaab should at least make a proper procedure to excute someone, otherwise what will the difference be between them and the former thugs that use to kill and murder innocent citizens of Kismayo. The young always to rush to carry a death sentence, what is the rush, not really necessary, take your time and think of the consequences. Who on earth has ever labelled Al-Shabab different than the thugs...the only difference is when they are commiting the crime xadiid ayey kugu so dalilinayaan...which makes them only more worse and dangerous. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted January 16, 2009 Atleast Al-Shabaab have convictions people! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted January 16, 2009 To Kismayo, alshabaab brought peace and security. As LSK noted, the death of an individual should not be the yardstick to assess alshabaabs admin in that city. We should look at the no so distant past where lootings, killings, and insecurities crippled that great city and its people. Today Kismayo is not only a peaceful city, but it’s also a thriving place, and has regained its dominant status business wise. It’s not coincident that Ibrahim Afghan and Abdurrahman Siiro pacified the most two unstable regions in South Somalia: Kismayo and Marka! In the absence of federal government these regions will be better off in Alshabaabs hands as they bring justice, and do away with clan dominance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
axmad gurey Posted January 16, 2009 Walaaleyaal, Let's not make too many assumptions. The people in Kismayu came to judgment on the women who was stoned by trial and the same for this man. These people have a judge and court to deal with these issues. If you have questions about the details why don't you check their website or send them an email. If you don't know something, try to find out rather than making assumptions. To think that they would just kill someone for no reason is just strange. They have fought to establish the Shariah so i would have to think that they are doing their best to do that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gabbal Posted January 16, 2009 LST and Xiinfaniin continue nursing your bias. The superficiality of your statements is such that, even when the legitimacy of Al Shabaab is not questioned, you continue on in a superficial fashion to contest points that have not been addressed, on account of my clan background you see. Extremely juvenile but expected from the old guard nevertheless. Let the world be a witness to hypocrisy exemplified when Xiin is a superficial Al Shabaab supporter in Kismaayo but a critic everywhere else. Good day sirs. Unfortunately, I have no time for petty games. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted January 16, 2009 I must agree with LSK and Xiin, the Kismayu admin have brought stability to the areas as well as those in Marka. However this incident is not excusable by the encouraging development in security. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted January 16, 2009 Horn, alshabaab is not a perfect organization. Their shortcomings are numerous. Chasing Hiiraale and Indhacadde however are not among the shortcomings I have objected. Neither is deterring mini warlords in Wardille's death. Jumcah wanaagsan ikhyaar.ta Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gabbal Posted January 16, 2009 A political response nonetheless. Duly expected and well predictable. Jumcah wanaagsan to you too as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somali Pirate Posted January 16, 2009 Originally posted by Juje: quote:Originally posted by Somali Pirate: juje, the man is burining in his grave at the moment. Traitors and munafiqs always a get a taste before the main course The likes of you need to be exterminated....just wait by the door...Ahlu -Suuna aya kugu so socota. what a joke. supporting a traitor who helped eithopians kill his own flesh and blood. people like you should either get lost to eithopia or die in somalia. we don't need traitors like you Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garyaqaan2 Posted January 17, 2009 something that we are very good at is jumping in to Conclusion. These culamaa are not dumb they did their homework and took the right action. Some of you would like me to belive Mr Waldiiri was free from all moral wrong doing. cammon !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I don't belive in uu jiro qof sharciga ka weeyn. Hadaa tahay u adeege cadow gaada waa in aad mar siisaa sharcigiisa Gelinkii dambe ee Maalintii shalay waxaa magaalada Kismaayo ka dhacay fal dil ah oo lagu fuliyay siyaasi caan ka ahaa Magaalada Kismaayo oo la shaqeyn jiray Barre Hiiraale. Siyaasigaasi ayaa lagu magacaabi jiray xilligii uu noolaa C/raxmaan Waldiire, wuxuuna kamid ahaa saraakiisha Barre Hiiraale uga warbixisa xaaladda Maamulka Islaamiga ah ee Gobolka Jubbada Hoose. Hadaba Gelinkii dambe ee shalay ayaa lagu tooktay gudaha magaalada Kismaayo, waxaana loo toogtay hab sharci Islaami ah maadaama lagu helay caddeyn iyo marqaati. Afhayeenka Maamulka Islaamiga ah ee magaalada Kismaayo Sheekh Xasan Yacquub ayaa u sheegay shabakadda Islaamiga ah ee Qaadisiya in Toogashadaasi ay sax tahay laguna fuliyay C/raxmaan Waldiire looguna fuliyay hawlo basaasnimo oo lagu arkay . Afhayeenka waxa uu sheegay in la tooktay Waldiire kadib markii isaga afkiisa uu ka cadeystay hawsha uu hayay lagana duubay cod sidoo kalena laga hayo qoraal uu isaga saxiixay oo ku saabsan hawshani in uu kujiray. Hadaba arrintani ayaa waxaa si aad ah u soo dhaweeyay shacabka Magaalada Kismaayo iyaga oo sheegay in cid waliba oo lagu helo cadeymo lagu fuliyo xadka lagu fuliyay C/raxmaan Waldiire oo kale ayna tahay mid looga badbaadayo Basaasiinta. Waxa uu kusoo beegmayaa xilliga xadkani la fuliyay iyadoo Barre Hiiraale iyo Ciidan Tikree ah ay kusugan yihiin qeybo kamid ah Gobolka Gedo isla markaasina ay doonayaan in ay in Jubbooyinka ay u soo gudbaan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NASSIR Posted January 17, 2009 HornAfrique, I believe it's almost impossible to verify the evidence that he was spying on Ethiopians and Hiiraale's recent military showdown in Gede region. But for the most part, his killing was a politically motivated one since it coincides with Hiirale's activities in Gedo. They even have a non-believers cemetary for Somalis? That is truly worrying aspect of Somalia's multi-dimensional conflict. ----- Friday, January 16, 2009 MOGADISHU (Reuters) - Hardline Somali Islamist insurgents said on Friday they executed a politician accused of being a "spy" for Ethiopian troops and militia opposed to them. The shooting of Abdirahman Ahmed, 55, in the southern port of Kismayu was the highest-profile such execution by the al Shabaab (Youth) group since a young woman was stoned to death late last year after being accused of adultery. Al Shabaab, which is on a U.S. list of terrorism groups, took Kismayu in August 2008 during its now two-year war against the Somali government and its Ethiopian military backers. It controls large swathes of south-central Somalia. A local spokesman for al Shabaab, Sheikh Hassan Yacqub, said Ahmed had been warned several times to break ties with the Ethiopians and local militias who previously controlled Kismayu. "He was in our jail for eight days and then we took him before the court, and finally we executed him according to Islamic sharia law," he told Reuters. "Anybody who spies for the non-believers will definitely face the death sentence." A statement on www.kataaib.net, one of several sites used by the militants, said Ahmed, was shot after he confessed to being "Allah's enemy" and a court found him guilty of trying to mastermind the re-capture of Kismayu. Local residents said he had been buried in a place called the "non-believers' cemetery." Also on Friday, foreign and Somali media watchdogs said kidnappers had released a local journalist, Abdifatah Mohamed Elmi, who was kidnapped in August last year in Mogadishu. Two foreign journalists taken with him, a Canadian and an Australian, are still missing. Source: Reuters, Jan 16, 2009 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites